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Akagami_Shanks
02/10/23 1:02:11 PM
#256:


I would never even have seen this review if it wasnt posted here lol. The games already made its money though, no use arguing about any boycott. It had almost 500k concurrent players on steam in early access and over 1 million people watching on twitch. Hopefully people stop wasting their time with these pointless arguments now. Nobodys mind is being changed and people are only doubling down

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Ragnarider
02/10/23 1:02:47 PM
#257:


Zeeak4444 posted...
heres the problem with the mindset:

in that scenario, taking a lighter to it would do literally nothing. But thats not the only course of action, if you take a lighter to it and get a bucket of water to throw on it you didnt actually negatively impact the situation but you did positively impact it, even if barely.

So that statement is dumb because it inherently assumes only one action occurred, and that the one action would have had any impact on the situation.

Or....you know, you could only take a bucket of water to it. Even if taking a lighter to it "has no real impact", you're still being a huge dick and displaying negative empathy to the person currently in distress.
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Questionmarktarius
02/10/23 1:03:19 PM
#258:


hockeybub89 posted...
I'd said it time and again even before this nonsense. I sometimes buy from Amazon, but there is nothing I'd like more than to see that company go up in flames, and I will vote and rally and whatever in that direction.
Amazon will only remain relevant until something else does to Amazon what Amazon did to Walmart, and what Walmart did to Sears, and what Sears did to the local general store.
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hockeybub89
02/10/23 1:04:01 PM
#259:


This author, do you think she's excited for TotK? I wonder what her opinions are on people who watch Arcane or play LoL.

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Ragnarider
02/10/23 1:04:39 PM
#260:


Prestoff posted...
Because people like Harry Potter? People buy stuff they like all the time. The issue is that many people who are pro-trans (or trans themselves) don't see an issue buying this game because either they can seperate the art from the artist, think any royalty money she makes off from the game is insignificant because she's basically a billionaire, or believe boycotting this game will hurt the devs more than rowling herself.

Devs make a steady salary. They don't work based on sales, lol. And it is literally impossible to separate the art from the artist when the artist is still alive, still benefiting from the sales of her art, and uses said sales to persecute people.
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hockeybub89
02/10/23 1:05:07 PM
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Ragnarider posted...
Or....you know, you could only take a bucket of water to it. Even if taking a lighter to it "has no real impact", you're still being a huge dick and displaying negative empathy to the person currently in distress.
Buying a video game is only an ethical decision if you value it one way or another as one.

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Ragnarider
02/10/23 1:07:59 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Buying a video game is only an ethical decision if you value it one way or another as one.

I'd say the ethics are based not on the fact that it's a video game but on where the sales of that video game are going to.
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OudeGeuze
02/10/23 1:08:34 PM
#263:


Is this better or worse than the Twilight Princess fiasco
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NoMeLx22x
02/10/23 1:09:03 PM
#264:


Prestoff posted...
or believe boycotting this game will hurt the devs more than rowling herself.

Yeah not to mention the trans people that actively worked on the game as far as programming/developing/ and things like that.

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Tmaster148
02/10/23 1:09:13 PM
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Ragnarider posted...
I'd say the ethics are based not on the fact that it's a video game but on where the sales of that video game are going to.

So why does the money from Hogwarts Legacy sales matter and not other games where money goes to equally bad people?

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Questionmarktarius
02/10/23 1:09:16 PM
#266:


Ragnarider posted...
I'd say the ethics are based not on the fact that it's a video game but on where the sales of that video game are going to.
Nobody in the gaming industry is at all innocent, except maybe ZUN.
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Prestoff
02/10/23 1:12:10 PM
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Ragnarider posted...
Devs make a steady salary. They don't work based on sales, lol.

Have any source to back up this claim? What we do know that if a game studio doesn't sell enough games, they don't get enough profit to stay afloat.

Ragnarider posted...
And it is literally impossible to separate the art from the artist when the artist is still alive, still benefiting from the sales of her art, and uses said sales to persecute people.

If it was impossible, why do people do it all the time? You probably do it on the things you like without knowing.

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Ragnarider
02/10/23 1:13:51 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
So why does the money from Hogwarts Legacy sales matter and not other games where money goes to equally bad people?

Who said they don't matter? Point me to another game that directly benefits a modern day Hitler and I will rally against that one too.
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refmon
02/10/23 1:15:05 PM
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Ragnarider posted...
modern day Hitler
lol

Slacktivism is ruining America

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Damn_Underscore
02/10/23 1:16:37 PM
#272:


omg is this sarcasm

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Ragnarider
02/10/23 1:16:38 PM
#273:


GranolaPanic posted...
Nintendos connected to the Yakuza. And they engage in human trafficking and forced sex work. If you base your morality on what a person or a corporation does, shouldnt they be boycotted as well?

Do you have proof of this claim?
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Questionmarktarius
02/10/23 1:18:35 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...
Nintendos connected to the Yakuza.
No. Nintendo is the yakuza.

Even if that's not actually true, the absolute bullshit Hiroshi Yamauchi was doing in the 80s was far worse than some mean-spirited tweets.
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GATTJT
02/10/23 1:21:48 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
the absolute bullshit Hiroshi Yamauchi was doing in the 80s
Details?

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AloneIBreak
02/10/23 1:22:08 PM
#277:


refmon posted...
lol

Slacktivism is ruining America
Vote with your wallet is one of the worst things to ever happen to the American left.

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DrizztLink
02/10/23 1:23:58 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...
Of Nintendos connections or the types of crimes the Yakuza were involved in.

The former President of Nintendo Hiroshi Yamauchi worked for a Yakuza crime family and the company connections still exist today.
That isn't proof of a claim, those are two sentences you typed.

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ekie
02/10/23 1:24:38 PM
#280:


Alucard188 posted...
Video game reviews aren't objective. They never were.

They usually aren't personal though

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Ragnarider
02/10/23 1:24:42 PM
#281:


GranolaPanic posted...
Of Nintendos connections or the types of crimes the Yakuza were involved in.

The former President of Nintendo Hiroshi Yamauchi worked for a Yakuza crime family and the company connections still exist today.

What sort of connections?
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PiOverlord
02/10/23 1:26:21 PM
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From a quick reading, it appears Nintendo had connections to the Yakuza during their Hanafuda card and love hotel days. As they transitioned to video games, they distanced themselves from their shady past.

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bsp77
02/10/23 1:27:13 PM
#283:


Forget the yakuza, people. We know for a fact now that Nintendo's profits are being partially sent to Saudi Arabia. And yet most of the gamers here boycotting Hogwarts are still playing Nintendo. That is hypocrisy.

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Questionmarktarius
02/10/23 1:28:09 PM
#284:


GATTJT posted...
Details?
https://h2o.law.harvard.edu/cases/5103
tl;dr - price-fixing, market manipulation, strongarming retailers, etc.

Also Nintendo is largely the reason it's illegal to rent games in Japan
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Jagr_68
02/10/23 1:28:41 PM
#285:


So topic is about Nintendo now.

Oooooookay

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LowRyder2005
02/10/23 1:28:53 PM
#286:


refmon posted...
lol

Slacktivism is ruining America

Slacktivism combined with Godwin's law.
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hockeybub89
02/10/23 1:30:59 PM
#287:


Ragnarider posted...
Who said they don't matter? Point me to another game that directly benefits a modern day Hitler and I will rally against that one too.
Any company that China or the Saudis are involved in

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Ragnarider
02/10/23 1:34:10 PM
#289:


So basically they no longer have any yakuza connections. And the yakuza is already pretty much irrelevant these days.
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bsp77
02/10/23 1:34:33 PM
#290:


Ragnarider posted...
So basically they no longer have any yakuza connections. And the yakuza is already pretty much irrelevant these days.

bsp77 posted...
Forget the yakuza, people. We know for a fact now that Nintendo's profits are being partially sent to Saudi Arabia. And yet most of the gamers here boycotting Hogwarts are still playing Nintendo. That is hypocrisy.


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DrizztLink
02/10/23 1:35:25 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...
Correction to my post. It was Hiroshis father. Sorry for the mistake. And this was before Nintendo was a video game company. They used to run love hotels and other dubious businesses.
So a company that's been around since the 1800's has a history.

Hope you don't like Volkswagen, I have news.

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Prestoff
02/10/23 1:36:52 PM
#293:


bsp77 posted...
Forget the yakuza, people. We know for a fact now that Nintendo's profits are being partially sent to Saudi Arabia. And yet most of the gamers here boycotting Hogwarts are still playing Nintendo. That is hypocrisy.

That's because it's a problem most people in the western world doesn't care about, well not care is a bit harsh but more not on their priority list. They're not women from Saudi Arabia and it doesn't personally effect them. That's why I think shaming and guilting others for not caring about the same things you do is bad, because not only is it counter intuitive to your movement but it creates a "houlier than thou" attitude. We all will pick and choose our fights. It's good to be informed about the injustices, just avoid being an asshole when relaying the message.

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viewmaster_pi
02/10/23 1:37:15 PM
#294:


fuck VW, at least my precious Fanta is clean

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hockeybub89
02/10/23 1:37:16 PM
#295:


Don't get too mad at us or you might post about it on living transphobe and all around piece of shit Elon Musk's Twitter.

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Bass_X0
02/10/23 1:37:20 PM
#296:


Error1355 posted...
ok, then don't read this author's video game reviews anymore. Or don't read Wired. Or both. Getting angry or mad about it is just a waste of energy.

I dont read this authors reviews. I dont read wired.

Im only aware of the score because its controversial and people are posting about it on GameFAQs

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Disengaged
02/10/23 1:49:20 PM
#298:


It only got a 1 out of 10?

God damn this game must have SUCKED.

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LowRyder2005
02/10/23 1:51:15 PM
#299:


Disengaged posted...
It only got a 1 out of 10?

God damn this game must have SUCKED.

From what I gather on Metacritic, the score is actually the lowest ever assigned by Wired. The second-lowest reported is "Myst" (scoring a 3.0, against an average of about 4) on the Nintendo DS.
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bsp77
02/10/23 1:51:54 PM
#300:


I just picked up my copy at Best Buy. I was paranoid that I was being judged now. This is fucked up.

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Ragnarider
02/10/23 1:53:01 PM
#301:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


You say while playing your antisemitic wizard game.
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hockeybub89
02/10/23 1:54:15 PM
#302:


Ragnarider posted...
You say while playing your antisemitic wizard game.
Damn, people are really going out of their way to not address all the other video games they play that pieces of shit profit from

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Ragnarider
02/10/23 1:55:41 PM
#303:


hockeybub89 posted...
Damn, people are really going out of their way to not address all the other video games they play that pieces of shit profit from

Damn, people are really going out of their way to deflect attention away from their antisemitic game that directly benefits a TERF doing TERF things.
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Bass_X0
02/10/23 1:56:59 PM
#304:


Where was all this controversy when Fantastic Beasts was released?

What makes this game different? Rowling still saw royalties with the movies but nobody called for a boycott over those. If anything, there were more people upset over Johnny Depp not returning for the third one more so than Rowling getting paid.

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hockeybub89
02/10/23 1:57:01 PM
#305:


Ragnarider posted...
Damn, people are really going out of their way to deflect attention away from their antisemitic game that directly benefits a TERF doing TERF things.
So we're going to go with "Everyone who plays video games is a hateful bigot"? Odd, but if that's how you want it to go, more power to you?

Saudi Arabia and China are worse than JK Rowling, so all should be boycotted.

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