F: NHL is the least ref influenced game of the 4 major NA pro sports leagues

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WaterLink 01/31/23 12:34:28 AM #1:	NFL: Can call ticky tack penalties to push teams forward or back which puts teams in or out of scoring range (usually holding or PI) NBA: Can call fouls to get guys to the free throw line for easy points MLB: Inconsistent strike zones can put baserunners aboard In the NHL you get a guy in the penalty box, usually for 2 minutes, and during the 5 on 4 time, the team with 4 players is allowed to ice the puck (push the puck from one end of the ice to the other) without an icing violation to waste time on the power play as a consolation for being a player down. I feel like the calls I see in the NHL aren't as ticky tack in other leagues as well. But even on the arguable ones, the power play I feel is less detrimental to how penalties and fouls are treated in other leagues. --- https://i.imgur.com/Y5Tq1gV.gif https://i.imgur.com/sgLkVQU.gif Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:971222290] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>NFL: Can call ticky tack penalties to push teams forward or back which puts teams in or out of scoring range (usually holding or PI)NBA: Can call fouls to get guys to the free throw line for easy pointsMLB: Inconsistent strike zones can put baserunners aboardIn the NHL you get a guy in the penalty box, usually for 2 minutes, and during the 5 on 4 time, the team with 4 players is allowed to ice the puck (push the puck from one end of the ice to the other) without an icing violation to waste time on the power play as a consolation for being a player down. I feel like the calls I see in the NHL aren't as ticky tack in other leagues as well. But even on the arguable ones, the power play I feel is less detrimental to how penalties and fouls are treated in other leagues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ApherosyLove 01/31/23 12:38:31 AM #2:	WaterLink posted... the team with 4 players is allowed to ice the puck (push the puck from one end of the ice to the other) without an icing violation to waste time on the power play as a consolation for being a player down. this infuriated me so much --- *I, Apherosy, Goddess of Love.* https://i.imgur.com/erQyTk5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/73ExkyN.jpeg <cite>ApherosyLove posted [p:971222333] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>WaterLink posted... </cite><quote>the team with 4 players is allowed to ice the puck (push the puck from one end of the ice to the other) without an icing violation to waste time on the power play as a consolation for being a player down.</quote>this infuriated me so much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/31/23 12:42:02 AM #3:	NHL actually gives a shit about player safety. Even the fights are stopped when someone goes to the ice. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971222368] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>NHL actually gives a shit about player safety. Even the fights are stopped when someone goes to the ice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 01/31/23 12:46:41 AM #4:	flashes back to sharks knights --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! One must always be prepared to liberate treasure, Cameron. <cite>Medussa posted [p:971222421] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>flashes back to sharks knights</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 01/31/23 12:50:06 AM #5:	Questionmarktarius posted... NHL actually gives a shit about player safety. Even the fights are stopped when someone goes to the ice. But there's still some hard hits and bad blood between some team especially in the playoffs. I'd argue the NHL postseason is the best postseason of the 4 major leagues as well. It's a shame there isn't more backing behind it, especially in the South and even the West to a degree. I feel like if more people knew the rules and grew up playing it that it would be way more popular but it's just so expensive and niche in the youth leagues compared to basketball or baseball, and there's way more games than football. --- https://i.imgur.com/Y5Tq1gV.gif https://i.imgur.com/sgLkVQU.gif Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:971222465] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>NHL actually gives a shit about player safety. Even the fights are stopped when someone goes to the ice.</quote>But there's still some hard hits and bad blood between some team especially in the playoffs. I'd argue the NHL postseason is the best postseason of the 4 major leagues as well. It's a shame there isn't more backing behind it, especially in the South and even the West to a degree. I feel like if more people knew the rules and grew up playing it that it would be way more popular but it's just so expensive and niche in the youth leagues compared to basketball or baseball, and there's way more games than football. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 01/31/23 12:53:32 AM #6:	Medussa posted... flashes back to sharks knights I'm not saying that the NHL is completely free of ref influence, I'm just saying that compared to the other leagues, it is the least ref influenced league of the 4. I still remember that Preds/Pens no goal. But even in that game they seemed to call more penalties on the Pens the rest of the game to make up for that but the Preds couldn't cash in. --- https://i.imgur.com/Y5Tq1gV.gif https://i.imgur.com/sgLkVQU.gif Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:971222509] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite><quote>flashes back to sharks knights</quote>I'm not saying that the NHL is completely free of ref influence, I'm just saying that compared to the other leagues, it is the least ref influenced league of the 4. I still remember that Preds/Pens no goal. But even in that game they seemed to call more penalties on the Pens the rest of the game to make up for that but the Preds couldn't cash in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 01/31/23 12:54:21 AM #7:	WaterLink posted... I'd argue the NHL postseason is the best postseason of the 4 major leagues as well. there's no argument. it beats the rest by at least an order of magnitude. WaterLink posted... It's a shame there isn't more backing behind it, especially in the South and even the West to a degree. I feel like if more people knew the rules and grew up playing it that it would be way more popular it takes time, but it's definitely working. Look at Tampa, look at Nashville, look at Dallas. it hasn't been perfect everywhere (and atlanta happened) but the southern expansion era absolutely worked out. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! One must always be prepared to liberate treasure, Cameron. <cite>Medussa posted [p:971222518] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>WaterLink posted... </cite><quote>I'd argue the NHL postseason is the best postseason of the 4 major leagues as well.</quote>there's no argument. it beats the rest by at least an order of magnitude.WaterLink posted... </cite><quote>It's a shame there isn't more backing behind it, especially in the South and even the West to a degree. I feel like if more people knew the rules and grew up playing it that it would be way more popular</quote>it takes time, but it's definitely working. Look at Tampa, look at Nashville, look at Dallas. it hasn't been perfect everywhere (and atlanta happened) but the southern expansion era absolutely worked out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 01/31/23 12:57:59 AM #8:	WaterLink posted... I'm not saying that the NHL is completely free of ref influence, I'm just saying that compared to the other leagues, it is the least ref influenced league of the 4. I still remember that Preds/Pens no goal. But even in that game they seemed to call more penalties on the Pens the rest of the game to make up for that but the Preds couldn't cash in. no, you definitely have a point (though i do think baseball is the actual answer). it's just that particular exception is still an open wound. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! One must always be prepared to liberate treasure, Cameron. <cite>Medussa posted [p:971222564] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>WaterLink posted... </cite><quote>I'm not saying that the NHL is completely free of ref influence, I'm just saying that compared to the other leagues, it is the least ref influenced league of the 4. I still remember that Preds/Pens no goal. But even in that game they seemed to call more penalties on the Pens the rest of the game to make up for that but the Preds couldn't cash in.</quote>no, you definitely have a point (though i do think baseball is the actual answer). it's just that particular exception is still an open wound.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeremy517 01/31/23 1:02:10 AM #9:	It is easily NHL now. It might be MLB once it gets robo strike zones in a few years. <cite>Jeremy517 posted [p:971222628] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>It is easily NHL now. It might be MLB once it gets robo strike zones in a few years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 01/31/23 1:14:00 AM #10:	Medussa posted... though i do think baseball is the actual answer I don't mean to be the contrarian here but when an umpire controls the ball and strike determination, I don't care how accurate you think they are the fact is every single pitch is up to their discretion ultimately. By definition they're way more influential with some umps having larger strike zones than others and sometimes being inconsistent with it. The sad thing is we could have automated strike zones and replays for out/safe but they choose to have the human element when that would be by far the easiest sport to automate just due to the structure of it. --- https://i.imgur.com/Y5Tq1gV.gif https://i.imgur.com/sgLkVQU.gif Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:971222772] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite><quote>though i do think baseball is the actual answer</quote>I don't mean to be the contrarian here but when an umpire controls the ball and strike determination, I don't care how accurate you think they are the fact is every single pitch is up to their discretion ultimately. By definition they're way more influential with some umps having larger strike zones than others and sometimes being inconsistent with it. The sad thing is we could have automated strike zones and replays for out/safe but they choose to have the human element when that would be by far the easiest sport to automate just due to the structure of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 01/31/23 1:17:10 AM #11:	i've seen some horrible umping, but it's usually umpshow umps, and those assholes suck for both teams. a bad penalty, or no-call late in a tie game is way more influential than a bad strike call, imo, even if it happens way less often. i could be wrong, but that's my gut instinct (and i do watch a lot of both sports) --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! One must always be prepared to liberate treasure, Cameron. <cite>Medussa posted [p:971222806] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>i've seen some horrible umping, but it's usually umpshow umps, and those assholes suck for both teams.a bad penalty, or no-call late in a tie game is way more influential than a bad strike call, imo, even if it happens way less often.i could be wrong, but that's my gut instinct (and i do watch a lot of both sports)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__starsnostars 01/31/23 1:25:44 AM #12:	I don't know, for most of my life hockey was the primary sport I watched but I've pretty much given up on it now and inconsistent reffing was a large part of it. So I find it hard to believe it's the least influenced by refs. Personally I would say that goes to baseball. Now I mostly watch soccer (which is even worst in that regard and maybe the worst). --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDyXIXyAZq0 Please consider adopting a cat from your SPCA or local animal shelter. <cite>__starsnostars posted [p:971222899] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>I don't know, for most of my life hockey was the primary sport I watched but I've pretty much given up on it now and inconsistent reffing was a large part of it. So I find it hard to believe it's the least influenced by refs. Personally I would say that goes to baseball. Now I mostly watch soccer (which is even worst in that regard and maybe the worst). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 01/31/23 1:45:16 AM #13:	Medussa posted... i've seen some horrible umping, but it's usually umpshow umps, and those assholes suck for both teams. a bad penalty, or no-call late in a tie game is way more influential than a bad strike call, imo, even if it happens way less often. i could be wrong, but that's my gut instinct (and i do watch a lot of both sports) OK so you can say an ump is accurate or not, but the fact that they call every ball and strike is by definition ref influenced. I've seen hockey games go entire periods without a penalty called, most of it is very free flowing and free wheeling aside from obvious icing or offsides calls. The game isn't dictated as much by the refs and more so by the players, baseball just simply can't be called less ref influenced when the umps literally call every pitch. Most penalties that are called can't be disputed too much either they're usually pretty obvious. --- https://i.imgur.com/Y5Tq1gV.gif https://i.imgur.com/sgLkVQU.gif Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:971223092] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite><quote>i've seen some horrible umping, but it's usually umpshow umps, and those assholes suck for both teams.a bad penalty, or no-call late in a tie game is way more influential than a bad strike call, imo, even if it happens way less often.i could be wrong, but that's my gut instinct (and i do watch a lot of both sports)</quote>OK so you can say an ump is accurate or not, but the fact that they call every ball and strike is by definition ref influenced. I've seen hockey games go entire periods without a penalty called, most of it is very free flowing and free wheeling aside from obvious icing or offsides calls. The game isn't dictated as much by the refs and more so by the players, baseball just simply can't be called less ref influenced when the umps literally call every pitch. Most penalties that are called can't be disputed too much either they're usually pretty obvious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 01/31/23 1:47:28 AM #14:	I wish hockey was like it was back in the 96-97 seasons :( --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 <cite>Flauros posted [p:971223107] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>I wish hockey was like it was back in the 96-97 seasons :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 01/31/23 1:48:49 AM #15:	NHl guys lose teeth like crazy tho --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:971223123] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>NHl guys lose teeth like crazy tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 01/31/23 1:49:12 AM #16:	ok, i see what you're saying. i took it to mean only the impact of bad calls / bad noncalls. if you're talking about how many opinion decisions the officials have to make, then sure, hockey is probably the lowest. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! One must always be prepared to liberate treasure, Cameron. <cite>Medussa posted [p:971223129] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>ok, i see what you're saying. i took it to mean only the impact of bad calls / bad noncalls. if you're talking about how many opinion decisions the officials have to make, then sure, hockey is probably the lowest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 01/31/23 1:50:49 AM #17:	NBA is the worst. Refs completely dictate the game and the league itself may be rigged. --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade http://i.imgur.com/MYYEIx5.gif http://i.imgur.com/WGE12ef.jpg <cite>solosnake posted [p:971223143] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>NBA is the worst. Refs completely dictate the game and the league itself may be rigged.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 01/31/23 2:07:45 AM #18:	Medussa posted... ok, i see what you're saying. i took it to mean only the impact of bad calls / bad noncalls. if you're talking about how many opinion decisions the officials have to make, then sure, hockey is probably the lowest. And I think that's what I like most about hockey. That aspect of least amount of opinion decisions, and also even if there are bad calls, it isn't free points like in basketball or a free 15 yards like in football where it often puts them at least in FG range. In hockey you still have to earn your goals even if you're on the PP. And then if you kill the penalty you're right back on 5 on 5 again, and there's even sometimes where coming right out of the box can lead to an odd man rush so you have that going for you. I just feel like the way the NHL handles fouls/penalties and also how they usually let the teams play on unless it's something obvious just leads to a better product. I'd hope that anyone in the other leagues that's frustrated with ref influence might give the NHL a chance because just give it a few games and learn the rules and I think a lot of people might be surprised to learn that they actually can like hockey. I live in the south and try to pass the word on and no one gives it a chance, it's just "lol ice soccer" and it makes me sad --- https://i.imgur.com/Y5Tq1gV.gif https://i.imgur.com/sgLkVQU.gif Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:971223299] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite><quote>ok, i see what you're saying. i took it to mean only the impact of bad calls / bad noncalls. if you're talking about how many opinion decisions the officials have to make, then sure, hockey is probably the lowest.</quote>And I think that's what I like most about hockey. That aspect of least amount of opinion decisions, and also even if there are bad calls, it isn't free points like in basketball or a free 15 yards like in football where it often puts them at least in FG range. In hockey you still have to earn your goals even if you're on the PP. And then if you kill the penalty you're right back on 5 on 5 again, and there's even sometimes where coming right out of the box can lead to an odd man rush so you have that going for you. I just feel like the way the NHL handles fouls/penalties and also how they usually let the teams play on unless it's something obvious just leads to a better product. I'd hope that anyone in the other leagues that's frustrated with ref influence might give the NHL a chance because just give it a few games and learn the rules and I think a lot of people might be surprised to learn that they actually can like hockey. I live in the south and try to pass the word on and no one gives it a chance, it's just "lol ice soccer" and it makes me sad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ApherosyLove 01/31/23 2:20:27 AM #19:	WaterLink posted... the human element --- *I, Apherosy, Goddess of Love.* https://i.imgur.com/erQyTk5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/73ExkyN.jpeg <cite>ApherosyLove posted [p:971223422] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>WaterLink posted... </cite><quote>the human element</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranQroppoop 01/31/23 3:47:43 AM #20:	I've thought this way for the past year or so now. I still watch more Pistons than Red Wings locally but if I had to pick a national game to watch on tv I'd go with the hockey. --- Any last one-liners before I go ape on you? - Hoss Delgado Mmm, toast some marshmallows for me too Mailman.- Chris Paul <cite>GranQroppoop posted [p:971224109] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>I've thought this way for the past year or so now. I still watch more Pistons than Red Wings locally but if I had to pick a national game to watch on tv I'd go with the hockey.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 01/31/23 3:50:26 AM #21:	Flauros posted... I wish hockey was like it was back in the 96-97 seasons :( Fond memories of a long overdue Wings cup win --- Every day I wander in negative disposition, as I'm bombarded by superlatives, realizing very well that I am not alone. <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:971224135] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite><quote>I wish hockey was like it was back in the 96-97 seasons :(</quote>Fond memories of a long overdue Wings cup win</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 01/31/23 3:51:51 AM #22:	It's also the most interesting of the pro sports leagues --- The large print giveth And the small print taketh away <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:971224144] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>It's also the most interesting of the pro sports leagues</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/31/23 10:49:40 AM #23:	Flauros posted... I wish hockey was like it was back in the 96-97 seasons :( About the only way "dead puck eras" will be eradicated is allowing one player to stay offsides. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971228464] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite><quote>I wish hockey was like it was back in the 96-97 seasons :(</quote>About the only way "dead puck eras" will be eradicated is allowing one player to stay offsides.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AloneIBreak 01/31/23 11:02:12 AM #24:	NHL is probably the best. The refs usually try to officiate things evenly. Sometimes there are obvious makeup calls though. --- "The civilized man, where he cannot admire, will aim rather at understanding than at reprobating." - Bertrand Russell <cite>AloneIBreak posted [p:971228695] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>NHL is probably the best. The refs usually try to officiate things evenly. Sometimes there are obvious makeup calls though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/31/23 11:08:09 AM #25:	Hockey penalties are in the rough categories of "fucking up the game" or "fucking up a player" - or sometimes both. Minor fouls like offside or hand-pass just mean restarting play nearby. Other sports could take a lesson here. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971228800] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Hockey penalties are in the rough categories of "fucking up the game" or "fucking up a player" - or sometimes both.Minor fouls like offside or hand-pass just mean restarting play nearby.Other sports could take a lesson here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ApherosyLove 01/31/23 12:42:55 PM #26:	Questionmarktarius posted... Minor fouls like offside or hand-pass just mean restarting play nearby. Other sports could take a lesson here. Yeah but like in the NFL isn't there a lot more importance on field position? You could literally just have your team commit a minor foul on purpose to "restart the play nearby" so the other team can't make a giant play and get better field position. In hockey it isn't the biggest deal if a play starts in either team's zone because the rink is so much smaller. Is my thinking. --- *I, Apherosy, Goddess of Love.* https://i.imgur.com/erQyTk5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/73ExkyN.jpeg <cite>ApherosyLove posted [p:971230739] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Minor fouls like offside or hand-pass just mean restarting play nearby.Other sports could take a lesson here.</quote>Yeah but like in the NFL isn't there a lot more importance on field position?You could literally just have your team commit a minor foul on purpose to "restart the play nearby" so the other team can't make a giant play and get better field position.In hockey it isn't the biggest deal if a play starts in either team's zone because the rink is so much smaller.Is my thinking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/31/23 12:49:58 PM #27:	ApherosyLove posted... You could literally just have your team commit a minor foul on purpose to "restart the play nearby" That's why hand-pass is allowed in the defensive zone, and why icing brings the puck back to your zone. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971230914] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>ApherosyLove posted... </cite><quote>You could literally just have your team commit a minor foul on purpose to "restart the play nearby"</quote>That's why hand-pass is allowed in the defensive zone, and why icing brings the puck back to your zone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ApherosyLove 01/31/23 12:53:16 PM #28:	Questionmarktarius posted... That's why hand-pass is allowed in the defensive zone, and why icing brings the puck back to your zone. I'm talking about in NFL, and how NHL "minor fouls" couldn't directly translate well. --- *I, Apherosy, Goddess of Love.* https://i.imgur.com/erQyTk5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/73ExkyN.jpeg <cite>ApherosyLove posted [p:971230992] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>That's why hand-pass is allowed in the defensive zone, and why icing brings the puck back to your zone.</quote>I'm talking about in NFL, and how NHL "minor fouls" couldn't directly translate well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/31/23 12:56:19 PM #29:	ApherosyLove posted... I'm talking about in NFL, and how NHL "minor fouls" couldn't directly translate well. All the NFL has to do, is pick up and move the chains when a foul happens. You now have twenty more yards to the goaline after a couple holding calls, instead of being screwed with 3rd & 27. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971231056] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>ApherosyLove posted... </cite><quote>I'm talking about in NFL, and how NHL "minor fouls" couldn't directly translate well.</quote>All the NFL has to do, is pick up and move the chains when a foul happens.You now have twenty more yards to the goaline after a couple holding calls, instead of being screwed with 3rd & 27.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ApherosyLove 02/01/23 12:41:34 PM #30:	Questionmarktarius posted... All the NFL has to do, is pick up and move the chains when a foul happens. You now have twenty more yards to the goaline after a couple holding calls, instead of being screwed with 3rd & 27. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ9SQmnVsAAR-CR.jpg :( --- *I, Apherosy, Goddess of Love.* https://i.imgur.com/erQyTk5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/73ExkyN.jpeg <cite>ApherosyLove posted [p:971254122] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>All the NFL has to do, is pick up and move the chains when a foul happens.You now have twenty more yards to the goaline after a couple holding calls, instead of being screwed with 3rd & 27.</quote>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ9SQmnVsAAR-CR.jpg:(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/23 12:47:26 PM #31:	ApherosyLove posted... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ9SQmnVsAAR-CR.jpg Instead of just moving the teams, you move the teams and the chains. If you have an offensive holding penalty at 1st & 10 on the 30-yard line. You'd now have 1st & 10 on the 40-yard line. You still have an additional ten yards you have to go to score, but your drive isn't completely screwed over. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:971254284] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>ApherosyLove posted... </cite><quote>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ9SQmnVsAAR-CR.jpg</quote>Instead of just moving the teams, you move the teams and the chains.If you have an offensive holding penalty at 1st & 10 on the 30-yard line. You'd now have 1st & 10 on the 40-yard line.You still have an additional ten yards you have to go to score, but your drive isn't completely screwed over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 02/01/23 12:50:36 PM #32:	NHL refs will try to 'manage' the game. If one team is getting a lot of penalties then the other team is gonna get one called on the most ticky tacky stuff to try and even it up. Not always, but it happens more than I'd like. --- I'm a long, long way from giving up Call me old-fashioned, call me a fool <cite>Error1355 posted [p:971254362] in T/F: NHL i... [t:80330677]...</cite> <quote>NHL refs will try to 'manage' the game. If one team is getting a lot of penalties then the other team is gonna get one called on the most ticky tacky stuff to try and even it up. Not always, but it happens more than I'd like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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