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GrandConjuraton
01/30/23 4:42:12 PM
#101:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I think this is wishful thinking, mostly.
Quit stanning a blatant bigot.

Poorly, I may add.

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Gobstoppers12
01/30/23 4:43:03 PM
#102:


CyricZ posted...
You've not taken this advice once.
I'm just participating in a fascinating discussion. Trying to understand why people keep talking about her if they think she should stop talking.

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Gobstoppers12
01/30/23 4:43:27 PM
#103:


GrandConjuraton posted...
Quit stanning a blatant bigot.

Poorly, I may add.
Just saying, I don't think the actual state of things is what online activists think it is.

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Flauros
01/30/23 4:46:18 PM
#105:


Ohhh ZLS did a collab with BanG! Dream. I knew they would be able to do some kind of collab with a rhythm game or something. Like Project Diva, but this works too. Too bad its mobile.

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Will_VIIII
01/30/23 4:47:43 PM
#106:


Bibimbap posted...
As a feminist, I agree.
Shut the fuck up SMAL

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WrestlinFan
01/30/23 5:10:19 PM
#107:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's remarkable how many people are fully incapable if accepting the fact that there are various schools of thought regarding many political issues.

It's like CyricZ always says: You could have just said nothing.
Is that before or after he simps. That dude is a bit of a creep and not someone I'd bring up to strengthen a point lol.

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CyricZ
01/30/23 5:17:39 PM
#108:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm just participating in a fascinating discussion. Trying to understand why people keep talking about her if they think she should stop talking.
The discussion would have likely petered out if it weren't for people supporting the alternative.

Or being contrarian to satisfy their boredom.

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Gobstoppers12
01/30/23 5:58:57 PM
#109:


CyricZ posted...
The discussion would have likely petered out if it weren't for people supporting the alternative.

Or being contrarian to satisfy their boredom.
The current flare up of discussion started with the catastrophic failure to stop people from buying a video game. The subsequent topics seem to be expressions of frustration about how badly the attempt failed.

The origin is really easy to trace.

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legendarylemur
01/30/23 6:08:47 PM
#110:


Saw a vid about how all of Rowling's close friend circle in the last decade are prominently heavily Christian anti-trans activists. It's definitely not about money. She's put herself in a situation where it's very easy to believe she's in the right.

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Gwynevere
01/30/23 6:10:28 PM
#111:


legendarylemur posted...
Saw a vid about how all of Rowling's close friend circle in the last decade are prominently heavily Christian anti-trans activists. It's definitely not about money. She's put herself in a situation where it's very easy to believe she's in the right.
This one?

https://youtu.be/Ou_xvXJJk7k

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Crimsoness
01/30/23 6:11:32 PM
#112:


Pretty sure suffragettes were fighting for rights not fighting to remove the rights of others.

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hockeybub89
01/30/23 6:20:39 PM
#113:


Crimsoness posted...
Pretty sure suffragettes were fighting for rights not fighting to remove the rights of others.
It's like how the Christian right thinks they are oppressed because they can't oppress as much these days

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CyricZ
01/30/23 6:35:56 PM
#114:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
The current flare up of discussion started with the catastrophic failure to stop people from buying a video game. The subsequent topics seem to be expressions of frustration about how badly the attempt failed.

The origin is really easy to trace.
Yes. Of course. That's when people started talking about JK Rowling in the negative. Once the video game based on an IP she owns got prominence in the news.

Definitely didn't start June 2020 or sooner once she started her anti-trans screed.

I don't know if you hadn't noticed looking around this particular topic, but very few people here are discussing the game. We're discussing the woman.

And I'll note you swaggered in here barking about "political differences".

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CanardElastique
01/30/23 6:38:09 PM
#115:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm just participating in a fascinating discussion. Trying to understand why people keep talking about her if they think she should stop talking.
You can't make things better by ignoring your problems.

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legendarylemur
01/30/23 6:49:05 PM
#116:


Gwynevere posted...
This one?

https://youtu.be/Ou_xvXJJk7k
Actually yes, exactly that one. Was recommended to it by random, some sparse searching seems like it was right.

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Gobstoppers12
01/30/23 7:03:06 PM
#117:


CanardElastique posted...
You can't make things better by ignoring your problems.
Her opinion isn't really your problem, though.

CyricZ posted...
I don't know if you hadn't noticed looking around this particular topic, but very few people here are discussing the game
I did say "the current flare up," as in the game is the reason there are multiple topics about her on the boards lately. People wouldn't be making this many topics if not for the extremely ineffective attempt to inspire a boycott of the video game.

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CyricZ
01/30/23 8:03:57 PM
#119:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I did say "the current flare up," as in the game is the reason there are multiple topics about her on the boards lately. People wouldn't be making this many topics if not for the extremely ineffective attempt to inspire a boycott of the video game.
JK Rowling the transphobe is in fact part of the active news cycle as of this minute when both the US and UK are dealing trans and anti-trans legislation, the latter of which she has been very vocal about.

In this topic, I don't really care what you think about the game or peoples' opinions on the game. Stop trying to force the direction of the discussion.

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Gwynevere
01/30/23 8:36:02 PM
#120:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
People wouldn't be making this many topics if not for the extremely ineffective attempt to inspire a boycott of the video game.
Rowling has been a hot topic of discussion long before the game was even announced. You've been here long enough to know that, so idk why you're trying to paint a different picture of reality than what everyone else is living in

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Delirious_Beard
01/30/23 8:37:30 PM
#121:


what a vile woman

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GrandConjuraton
01/30/23 8:39:27 PM
#122:


Gwynevere posted...
Rowling has been a hot topic of discussion long before the game was even announced. You've been here long enough to know that, so idk why you're trying to paint a different picture of reality than what everyone else is living in
Because he's a disingenuous alt-right troll.

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Dyinglegacy
01/30/23 9:05:16 PM
#123:


Theres A LOT of bio females that dont accept trans women as women, but theyd never admit to it on camera or post it in any traceable manner that would lead back to them out of fear of being harassed/cancelled/whatever. The ones I know of I wouldnt call them terfs cause they arent overtly feminist either.

They arent seething, dyed in the wool, carrying a trans beating bat type of anti-trans, but if the topic comes up theyll disagree. Which is fine. Fine in that youre aloud to disagree with things as long as that disagreement doesnt drive you to do hateful things.

For instance, I disagree with alcohol being legal while far less destructive recreational drugs, like mj, are still illegal in many places. Now, I wouldnt make it illegal, nor would I actively hunt people down and lecture them, but when asked Id give my opinion. Its not a volatile (as in I dont have to worry about losing my livelihood over it ie job or whatever) subject for the most part so I can talk about my opinion relatively without fear.

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TMOG
01/30/23 10:48:24 PM
#124:


Reminder that Gob recently spent an entire topic arguing that trans people who are offended or hurt by Dave Chappelle's transphobic "jokes" and constant demonization of the community should just "shut up and stop talking about it until he stops", so anybody who's still under the impression that he's arguing in anything even remotely resembling good faith should definitely stop thinking that.
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GrandConjuraton
01/30/23 10:51:24 PM
#125:


TMOG posted...
Reminder that Gob recently spent an entire topic arguing that trans people who are offended or hurt by Dave Chappelle's transphobic "jokes" and constant demonization of the community should just "shut up and stop talking about it until he stops", so anybody who's still under the impression that he's arguing in anything even remotely resembling good faith should definitely stop thinking that.

GrandConjuraton posted...
he's a disingenuous alt-right troll.


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Gobstoppers12
01/30/23 11:29:07 PM
#126:


TMOG posted...
"shut up and stop talking about it until he stops",
Never said this. Just said that yelling at him about it doesn't have any chance of stopping him, so it's not really a productive use of time to tell him to stop. I don't think he's going to stop any time soon, unless he decides on his own that he wants to stop. My point is that the only thing that a person can accomplish by telling somebody to shut the fuck up (especially a comedian) is to inspire them to talk even more.

Telling him to stop will never make him stop. Telling him to stop has a high chance of making him talk more about it.

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CanardElastique
01/31/23 12:04:58 AM
#127:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Her opinion isn't really your problem, though.
When someone is openly fighting against equal rights for all it's everyone's problem.

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Revelation34
01/31/23 1:15:54 AM
#128:


CyricZ posted...

Yes. Of course. That's when people started talking about JK Rowling in the negative. Once the video game based on an IP she owns got prominence in the news.

Definitely didn't start June 2020 or sooner once she started her anti-trans screed.

I don't know if you hadn't noticed looking around this particular topic, but very few people here are discussing the game. We're discussing the woman.

And I'll note you swaggered in here barking about "political differences".


Well he did say the boards. Twitter isn't a board.

The threads on here started popping up more frequently because of the game coming out soon.

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TMOG
01/31/23 1:27:13 AM
#129:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Never said this. Just said that yelling at him about it doesn't have any chance of stopping him, so it's not really a productive use of time to tell him to stop. I don't think he's going to stop any time soon, unless he decides on his own that he wants to stop. My point is that the only thing that a person can accomplish by telling somebody to shut the fuck up (especially a comedian) is to inspire them to talk even more.

Telling him to stop will never make him stop. Telling him to stop has a high chance of making him talk more about it.
Or, to put it more succinctly, "shut up and stop talking about it until he stops."
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dj1200
01/31/23 1:42:19 AM
#130:


WrestlinFan posted...
Won't someone think of the millionaire!?

EDIT: But this is disgusting from every angle, but it's made all the worse by how rich she is.

shes nearly a billionaire. Her current net worth is 820 million
of course that means she is already a billionaire in dollars

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Pitbuller_26
01/31/23 1:48:02 AM
#131:


The sad thing about JK Rowling is if she wasn't a TERF, she'd be even richer. As we've seen with most billionaires and those close to reaching that status, hating marginalized groups is somehow more enticing than remaining neutral or standing up for them.
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Gobstoppers12
01/31/23 2:02:52 AM
#132:


TMOG posted...
Or, to put it more succinctly, "shut up and stop talking about it until he stops."
You're assigning a tone and expectation that I never said. I'm not trying to be hostile about it, but you seem to take it as hostility. I'm not attempting to be callous, either. Mostly, I'm being realistic. There is absolutely no tangible benefit whatsoever in picking a fight with a comedian who has already shrugged off attacks on all sides.

Netflix employees tried to strong-arm their executives into cancelling their relationship with Chappelle, and they were told no. Social media people keep trying to organize boycotts and review bombing against his specials, but they're at the top of the comedy charts.

It literally doesn't work, so why is anyone wasting their effort on a literal comedian whom they're never going to succeed in silencing?

I'm not saying "it's wrong to feel hurt by what he says," nor am I saying that you're not allowed to speak your mind. I'm approaching it from an outside perspective, a perspective from which I can recognize how unsuccessful these anti-Chappelle movements have been thus far, and I'm saying: "Pick your battles."

When you fight the same battle over and over again and make zero progress, and even if you were to make progress, none of it would amount to any kind of political or social change, it just strikes me as a poorly-chosen battle.

Fighting against a comedian is just a bad idea all around. If you lose, he makes jokes about it. If you 'win' he still makes jokes about it. You gain nothing, he gains notoriety, and Netflix gains money from the resulting controversy.

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Muflaggin
01/31/23 2:40:19 AM
#133:


Can't wait to buy Hogwarts Legacy!
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CyricZ
01/31/23 6:48:37 AM
#134:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
It literally doesn't work
Until it does.

Your attitude of "spreading the word doesn't work immediately, which means it'll never work so why try" is inspiring to say the least, but think of it this way: if our complaints and discussions won't stop the rich bigoted person, what chance do you have to stop us from complaining? You're essentially doing the same thing: trying to convince someone to stop what they're doing by complaining.

Gotta say, I think I liked you better as an abusive troll than a concern troll.

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zombiexdeathx
01/31/23 8:32:49 AM
#135:


Muflaggin posted...
Can't wait to buy Hogwarts Legacy!

same ... and only cause it looks good


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TheOtherMike
01/31/23 8:43:10 AM
#136:


Imagine not having Gobstoppers blocked.

Just. Imagine.

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Bass_X0
01/31/23 8:50:30 AM
#137:


well-excuse-me posted...
What is a terf

a miserable little pile of secrets!

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FatAnimeBooty
01/31/23 8:53:29 AM
#138:


Based ass anime girl tbh
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well-excuse-me
01/31/23 8:54:50 AM
#139:


Bass_X0 posted...
a miserable little pile of secrets!
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KTG2
01/31/23 9:15:43 AM
#141:


well-excuse-me posted...
Lol. I know the quote...I think it's describing men...I do not recall the source

Dracula in Symphony of the Night

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TMOG
01/31/23 10:03:55 AM
#142:


CyricZ posted...
Until it does.

Your attitude of "spreading the word doesn't work immediately, which means it'll never work so why try" is inspiring to say the least, but think of it this way: if our complaints and discussions won't stop the rich bigoted person, what chance do you have to stop us from complaining? You're essentially doing the same thing: trying to convince someone to stop what they're doing by complaining.

Gotta say, I think I liked you better as an abusive troll than a concern troll.
This.

Also, as I brought up in the other (now purged) topic, the reason we stopped using gay people and ableist slurs as punchlines is specifically because people were vocal about how wrong it is to do so until society, comedians included, listened. But apparently in his mind, that's not the solution for trans jokes, because... Chappelle is an asshole? But it's actually the trans people who are assholes because they won't stop being offended?

This history lesson and exposure of a double standard, of course, earned me the very well thought out and bulletproof counter-argument of "Shut the fuck up" lol

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well-excuse-me
01/31/23 10:20:53 AM
#143:


KTG2 posted...
Dracula in Symphony of the Night
Ah thank you. I wonder how I heard it before...I've never played that game. Maybe avgn
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TMOG
01/31/23 11:04:41 AM
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Eh, it helps to expose his concern trolling whenever possible so anybody who doesn't know what he's all about isn't tricked into thinking he's arguing in good faith and won't buy into his harmful bullshit.
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gunplagirl
01/31/23 11:04:48 AM
#146:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

See I usually block people who argue for the things he does but he's entertaining because well. >.> They're effing hilarious.

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CyricZ
01/31/23 11:13:17 AM
#147:


Gob is easy mode.

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HHH_is_the_game
01/31/23 11:28:30 AM
#148:


Funkydog posted...
100% not an excuse in anyway, but I do suspect it is a large part of what fuels her.

And while I can admire her wanting to ensure no one else suffers what she did, she is in fact helping others suffer - and that is something she does not care about. It is very sad, as otherwise it could be quite admirable.

But as it is, she has decided to just be the monster she aimed to protect others from.

This person gets it. You can hate her for what she's doing, but she isn't doing this for money or attention for Hogwarts Legacy. She is doing it because she genuinely believes she's protecting women from persecution and protecting women's rights. So her comparison in the first post is one that to her feels genuine. She truly believes that is an equivalence because she sees herself as somebody standing up for feminism

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Gobstoppers12
01/31/23 11:31:55 AM
#149:


CyricZ posted...
You're essentially doing the same thing: trying to convince someone to stop what they're doing by complaining.
I'm not personally affected by the complaints either way. If anything, I find it fascinating that you're so committed to the fruitless effort. It does take a certain stubborn resolve, but I can't say that I admire it. I just find it... strange.

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Funkydog
01/31/23 11:45:05 AM
#151:


HHH_is_the_game posted...
This person gets it. You can hate her for what she's doing, but she isn't doing this for money or attention for Hogwarts Legacy. She is doing it because she genuinely believes she's protecting women from persecution and protecting women's rights. So her comparison in the first post is one that to her feels genuine. She truly believes that is an equivalence because she sees herself as somebody standing up for feminism
Don't mistake what I said for any attempt to minimise the evil and harm she is doing. Just because she thinks she is doing something good, doesn't mean she is.

She is doing harm to others, when she claims to want to prevent harm from others.

Due to her, more trans people will be harmed and victimised in the way she claims to want to protect women from.

She is a monster, no matter her reasoning.

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Starks
01/31/23 11:47:37 AM
#152:


Etna posted...
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This. I was not expecting to be this outraged.

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