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Aloc
01/29/23 12:39:20 AM
#1:


How often do you see shows nowadays.

That aren't adaptations. That have 26 episodes. That actually have decent animation.

I could be wrong but I haven't seen one in a while.

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MedeaLysistrata
01/29/23 12:56:04 AM
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It's expensive

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
01/29/23 1:02:15 AM
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I think there is a need for a lot of anime to strike while the iron is hot. Proliferation of manga is so easy now that when something is popular, gotta make an adaptation quickly.

There's also SO MUCH that you can't skip out on it while there is interest.

That being said, One Piece looks much better now than ever before.

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Questionmarktarius
01/29/23 1:03:08 AM
#5:


MedeaLysistrata posted...
It's expensive

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MarthGoomba
01/29/23 1:03:41 AM
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Because the average viewer watching the dozen generic isekai every season doesn't care about quality

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_____Cait
01/29/23 1:05:29 AM
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I mean, look at how people flip out over how beautiful and deep the popular anime are.

Standards are not high, and people arent well read on .. Much, so people just eat up the old stuff.

There is good original anime though, just gotta look for it.

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sabin017
01/29/23 1:05:44 AM
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Nowadays? DBS is 5 years old already.

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coolguyjimmy
01/29/23 1:07:31 AM
#9:


Why do they have to have 26 episodes? That's quite a specific requirement....
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FL81
01/29/23 1:07:53 AM
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the advent of big streaming has encouraged mediocrity

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
01/29/23 1:08:36 AM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
Why do they have to have 26 episodes? That's quite a specific requirement....

Most anime are contracted for 13 episode cours. 13, 26, 52 are all regular episodes numbers to have.

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ellis123
01/29/23 1:08:45 AM
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A combination of capitalism and you just not watching them.

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LordFarquad1312
01/29/23 1:09:58 AM
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Watch Lycoris Recoil or High Card

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_____Cait
01/29/23 1:13:44 AM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
Why do they have to have 26 episodes? That's quite a specific requirement....

American Tv usually follows this as well, just with different numbers.

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ellis123
01/29/23 1:15:41 AM
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Watch it in 2x speed. It's the frame rate that kills it, not the animation.

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Blue_Inigo
01/29/23 1:16:38 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Uhh its made by a seriously talented studio capable of great 3D animation

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008Zulu
01/29/23 1:16:55 AM
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_____Cait posted...
American Tv usually follows this as well, just with different numbers.
Wasn't that originally because it was easy to schedule shows if they came in 6 month blocks?

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pokedude900
01/29/23 1:20:00 AM
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TC, high-quality shows have ALWAYS been in the minority. You just see more of the mediocre stuff than you used to because 95% of it gets localized. Whereas it used to be more like 10-20% tops.

Also being an adaptation or not has nothing to do with production values. There are plenty of amazing-looking adaptations and a fair few cheap originals.

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ellis123
01/29/23 1:24:25 AM
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pokedude900 posted...
TC, high-quality shows have ALWAYS been in the minority. You just see more of the mediocre stuff than you used to because 95% of it gets localized. Whereas it used to be more like 10% tops.

Also being an adaptation or not has nothing to do with production values. There are plenty of amazing-looking adaptations and a fair few cheap originals.
Not really, no. They got localized, they just were direct-to-sale rather than being on TV/streaming/whatever. While it's a higher % now, I don't think it's really that relevant a difference, instead what matters is that it's all easily accessible in centralized locations whereas before you basically had to know a guy who knew a guy in order to find out about a good 75% of anything that released.

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Gobstoppers12
01/29/23 1:25:46 AM
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wanderingshade
01/29/23 1:30:19 AM
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the new Trigun actually looks cool.

It COULD look like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEFkyRdERN4

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coolguyjimmy
01/29/23 1:32:07 AM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
Most anime are contracted for 13 episode cours. 13, 26, 52 are all regular episodes numbers to have.

Yes, but it excludes the multitude of 12-13 episode original anime which air most years (last year there was Healer Girl (12 episodes), and Birdie Wing (13 episodes)) and 22-24 episode original anime (Carole and Tuesday had 24 episodes for example, and The Great Pretender had 23 episodes, both of which are anime originals).

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Questionmarktarius
01/29/23 1:35:40 AM
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Aloc
01/29/23 1:36:19 AM
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pokedude900 posted...
TC, high-quality shows have ALWAYS been in the minority. You just see more of the mediocre stuff than you used to because 95% of it gets localized. Whereas it used to be more like 10-20% tops.

Also being an adaptation or not has nothing to do with production values. There are plenty of amazing-looking adaptations and a fair few cheap originals.
But they don't exist at all these days.

That's what you are not getting.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
01/29/23 1:39:18 AM
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Aloc posted...
But they don't exist at all these days.

That's what you are not getting.

Literally One Piece right now, their episodes are film quality. Stop saying there is nothing high quality being released.

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pokedude900
01/29/23 1:42:04 AM
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From the last few years:

Lycoris Recoil
Akudama Drve
A Place Further than the Universe
Buddy Daddies
Deca-Dence
Made in Abyss

Watch more shows.

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Aloc
01/29/23 1:42:15 AM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
Literally One Piece right now, their episodes are film quality. Stop saying there is nothing high quality being released.
You have got to be kidding me.

One Piece?

When I talk quality, I mean stuff like Diebuster.
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Questionmarktarius
01/29/23 1:42:39 AM
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I still say the greatest anime ever is Interstella 5555, and that was French somehow.
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
01/29/23 1:43:48 AM
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Aloc posted...
You have got to be kidding me.

One Piece?

When I talk quality, I mean stuff like Diebuster.

Oh, so you're a troll. Gotcha.

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pokedude900
01/29/23 1:43:51 AM
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Diebuster is an OVA series. Effectively a long movie. Of course it has animation that's well above average. If you want movies, several of those come out every year.

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Aloc
01/29/23 1:44:23 AM
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pokedude900 posted...
From the last few years:

Lycoris Recoil
Akudama Drve
A Place Further than the Universe
Buddy Daddies
Deca-Dence
Made in Abyss

Watch more shows.
Not only are all of those not all original, I asked for 26 episodes for a reason
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Aloc
01/29/23 1:45:11 AM
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pokedude900 posted...
Diebuster is an OVA series. Effectively a long movie. Of course it has animation that's well above average. If you want movies, several of those come out every year.
Stop stop stop.

It's been 20 years. I've never ever seen anything with Diebuster level quality since.

Aside from Redline.

But that's different.

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pokedude900
01/29/23 1:45:17 AM
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Made in Abyss is the only one on that list that's an adaptation. So I have to assume you're just trolling now.

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MedeaLysistrata
01/29/23 1:45:29 AM
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pokedude900 posted...
Lycoris Recoil
The dub is on crunchyroll?

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Aloc
01/29/23 1:46:41 AM
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pokedude900 posted...
Made in Abyss is the only one on that list that's an adaptation. So I have to assume you're just trolling now.

You should actually read what I said in the first post.

Aloc posted...
That aren't adaptations. That have 26 episodes. That actually have decent animation.


Otherwise you would have known Lyroris Recoil was never an answer.
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Calwings
01/29/23 1:47:10 AM
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Aloc posted...
That aren't adaptations. That have 26 episodes. That actually have decent animation.

To clarify: are you asking for "at least 26" episodes, "about 26" episodes, or "exactly 26" episodes.

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Aloc
01/29/23 1:48:34 AM
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Calwings posted...
To clarify: are you asking for "at least 26" episodes, "about 26" episodes, or "exactly 26" episodes.
About.

Gurren Lagann counts. It has 27 episodes.

25 is fine as well.
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
01/29/23 1:49:35 AM
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TC is going on about 26 episodes and yet name-drops Diebuster which had 6 episodes.

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Aloc
01/29/23 1:50:15 AM
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
TC is going on about 26 episodes and yet name-drops Diebuster which had 6 episodes.
You were talking film quality dude.

One Piece isn't film quality.

Have you even seen diebuster?
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
01/29/23 1:52:19 AM
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Diebuster has stunning visuals. I would never question you on that. The content is not A+ itself, but visuals are fantastic.

Have you watched One Piece in the last lets say 10 episodes?

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Aloc
01/29/23 1:54:00 AM
#43:


Dude I don't even need too. A series that adapts one chapter per episode is just not quality.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
01/29/23 1:55:15 AM
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Aloc posted...
Dude I don't even need too. A series that adapts one chapter per episode is just not quality.

That says it all.

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Calwings
01/29/23 2:05:07 AM
#45:


Aloc posted...
About.

Gurren Lagann counts. It has 27 episodes.

25 is fine as well.

Hopefully 24 is close enough.

* Birdie Wing: Golf Girls' Story (13 episodes aired so far, another cour scheduled for this Spring)
* Carole & Tuesday (24 episodes)
* Cross Ange: Rondo of Angel & Dragon (25 episodes)
* Kill La Kill (24 episodes)
* Megalobox (26 episodes)
* Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch From Mercury (12 episodes aired so far, another cour scheduled for this Spring)
* Space Dandy (26 episodes)
* SSSS.Gridman + SSSS.Dynazenon (12 episodes each for a 24 episode story)

All original anime and not adaptations, all with at least "pretty good" (at least IMO) animation, all have or will have about 26 episodes, and all came out within the last 10 years. I have more recommendations if you're open to shorter or longer episode counts, just let me know and I can get back to you.

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