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Damn_Underscore
01/28/23 9:36:21 PM
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Its flawed but a fun and unique FPS

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Irony
01/28/23 9:36:48 PM
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Because it's an awful game

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GOOGLE
01/28/23 9:37:15 PM
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Nostalgia.

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Damn_Underscore
01/28/23 9:38:14 PM
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mustachedmystic
01/28/23 9:38:23 PM
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I played da hell out of it back in the day. It I doubt I could put up with its(now) primitive mechanics.

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StarDestroyer
01/28/23 9:41:04 PM
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It's a fun little time waster.
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OudeGeuze
01/28/23 9:41:15 PM
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Irony posted...
Because it's an awful game

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sabin017
01/28/23 9:41:21 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
I doubt I could put up with its(now) primitive mechanics.
Anyone who has doubts should play the Agent 64 demo.

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FortuneCookie
01/28/23 9:45:20 PM
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItsPopularNowItSucks
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The_Wheelman1
01/28/23 9:45:50 PM
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It's awful by 2023 standards. It was the GOAT back in 98 or whatever year it came out but not so much now. The game aged too poorly for anyone under 30 to enjoy.

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VampireCoyote
01/28/23 9:50:44 PM
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Its a good game for that era

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Medussa
01/28/23 9:56:29 PM
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i am proud to be a goldeneye hater since day one. console shooters were all unplayable trash until PS2/Xbox era.

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Philip027
01/28/23 9:57:10 PM
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It looks dated, but most classics do. Still fun, much like Perfect Dark along with it.
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KeeperOfShadows
01/28/23 9:59:22 PM
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Every game is awful in someone's eyes. Nothing pleases everyone.

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chrono625
01/28/23 10:01:59 PM
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I wish switch had modern controls by default.

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Ratchetrockon
01/28/23 10:02:26 PM
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it is only decent when compared to late 90s console fps. when compared to the pc fps at the time it looks pretty bad

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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
01/28/23 10:07:51 PM
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Used to play multiplayer every day until Timesplitters came out. I'm not going to say it's a bad game. It's a dated game that was good for its time. After Timesplitters it became unplayable

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candyapplered
01/28/23 10:08:44 PM
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It hasn't aged well so if you didn't play it when it came out you wouldn't understand how awesome it was at the time. It's perfectly understandable IMO.

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chrono625
01/28/23 10:14:15 PM
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the Xbox version has updated dual stick controls by default.

the switch version you have to set up to get it that way, its old default controls. So if you dont have the N64 retro controller its quite the feel.

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DarkBuster22904
01/28/23 10:14:45 PM
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Because damn near everything on the N64 aged like vintage milk.

That tends to happen when you have a transitional console, with transitional graphics, and a controller that was very obviously made for fuckin aliens. They can and will be mind-blowing when they release, but will inevitably be made irrelevant once people figure out how to actually make games like that correctly.

goldeneye struggles for the same reason MOST n64 games struggle to hold up: the n64 itself. And most of the most beloved n64 games are immediately much better to play when they are ported (with a better control scheme) or remade. The n64 was basically a beta test for 3D gaming. And like most betas, what came after did it better.

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EightySixTwoTwo
01/28/23 10:38:25 PM
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It is one of the greatest games ever made. You had a limited time window to appreciate it in all its glory; if you missed it, then that's on you. You should have been born earlier. Blame your parents, not GoldenEye.
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GOOGLE
01/28/23 10:40:31 PM
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Its nice playing it without the lag. Also with dual stick controls the game is so much easier. Surprised how quick some of the levels are. Most can be done in a couple of minutes with little effort.

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Irony
01/28/23 10:46:38 PM
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EightySixTwoTwo posted...
It is one of the greatest games ever made. You had a limited time window to appreciate it in all its glory; if you missed it, then that's on you. You should have been born earlier. Blame your parents, not GoldenEye.
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hockeybub89
01/28/23 10:48:55 PM
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Irony posted...
"Outhouses are great. You just weren't around when they were great."
lol got em

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MarcyWarcy
01/28/23 10:53:50 PM
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Its mostly clueless people with bad opinions. The type of people that throw around terms like aged poorly and artificial difficulty and clunky
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sull56ivan2010
01/28/23 11:17:04 PM
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Nobody's pretending. Goldeneye is not a game that's held up in the pantheon of late 90s first person shooters. Half-Life is better. Medal of Honor. Quake.

The controls, no matter if you get used to it or not, are not ideal on the 64. For times where you need to move quick, it's not designed well. Which is why I would like to try it on Xbox given the Banjo and Perfect Dark treatment.

Controls are the least of my worries. Lack of health pickups, odd difficulty alteration choices, bounce back from getting shot being all over the place, and starting every level with barely any weapons hurt the game. Still a good game, but overrated. There's better shooters from that era.

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Damn_Underscore
01/29/23 2:21:27 PM
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bump

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HA4e
01/29/23 2:25:29 PM
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Because gamers nowadays are spoiled and think they know better

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ellis123
01/29/23 2:26:44 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/9/AAEv3mAAEIpV.jpg

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blazer4lyfe
01/29/23 2:26:57 PM
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TimeSplitters was my game during this era. I liked Golden Eye. But it was no Time Splitters.

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NeonTentacles
01/29/23 2:27:41 PM
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ellis123 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/9/AAEv3mAAEIpV.jpg
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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
01/29/23 4:08:59 PM
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HA4e posted...
Because gamers nowadays are spoiled and think they know better

Boomer mentality

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ShineboxPhil
01/29/23 4:15:04 PM
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It's an amazing game for its time.


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NeonTentacles
01/29/23 4:15:46 PM
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It's an amazing game for every time

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ChocoboMog123
01/29/23 4:39:48 PM
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I wasn't a big fan when it was current. I disliked the controls and thought the missions were too confusing, still do. But compared to modern FPSs, it had a ton of content, replayability, and nice fast action. You could reasonably put 100 hours into just the single player and never really get bored. It hasn't really aged well, but there was a reason it was so popular beyond just being a FPS.

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EightySixTwoTwo
01/29/23 5:20:26 PM
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sull56ivan2010 posted...
Nobody's pretending. Goldeneye is not a game that's held up in the pantheon of late 90s first person shooters. Half-Life is better. Medal of Honor. Quake.

No, that's rewriting history. GoldenEye is considered one of the most important console fps of its generation. It is also recognized as one of the most influential games ever made. It's up there with Halo CE (2001) and Modern Warfare (2007).
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Southernfatman
01/29/23 5:32:25 PM
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It's kinda in vogue to crap on old beloved games now. Look how many people say Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time suck now. It's the same for every other kind of media too, especially music.

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sull56ivan2010
01/29/23 5:39:49 PM
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EightySixTwoTwo posted...
No, that's rewriting history. GoldenEye is considered one of the most important console fps of its generation. It is also recognized as one of the most influential games ever made. It's up there with Halo CE (2001) and Modern Warfare (2007).
Being important does not always make a game better. Goldeneye does not hold up despite what it did in 97

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EightySixTwoTwo
01/29/23 6:25:12 PM
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sull56ivan2010 posted...
Being important does not always make a game better. Goldeneye does not hold up despite what it did in 97

Read again, son. His post was not about whether or not GoldenEye stood up the test of time; it was about its legacy among the greatest shooters from the 90's.

But now that you mention it, back in the 90's, GoldenEye was universally acknowledged as one of the greatest games of its generation. Whether you enjoy it or not in 2023 is absolutely irrelevent. It's legacy lives throughout the very console fps you play to this day.

You have all the right to say it didn't age well; that is absolutely true.
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