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WingsOfGood
01/26/23 11:16:17 AM
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https://www.upi.com/amp/Top_News/US/2023/01/25/white-house-renters-bill-of-rights/2111674685183/

Jan. 25 (UPI) -- The White House has unveiled a "Renters Bill of Rights" to push lawmakers and the private sector to strengthen tenant protections and make rent more affordable.
While the "Blueprint for a Renters Bill of Rights" released Wednesday is not a set of laws, it does offer tenants and landlords a set of recommendations "intended to support the development of policies and practices that promote fairness for Americans living in rental housing." And it comes at a time when rents are rising dramatically nationwide.
The document, which was published by the White House Domestic Policy Council and the National Economic Council, argues that housing should be safe, decent and affordable. It argues that rental leases should be fair with defined terms and responsibilities. And it advises renters to know their rights in order to protect themselves from unlawful discrimination or eviction.
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ThisIsAKnoife
01/26/23 11:18:03 AM
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Cant wait for Rs to call this woke and vote it down.

Read through it again and this is actually kind of useless. Educating people on when theyre being taken advantage of? Woo. Not gonna stop landlords from abusing their tenants who have no other alternative because of competitive pricing

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NeonTentacles
01/26/23 11:18:23 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
While the "Blueprint for a Renters Bill of Rights" released Wednesday is not a set of laws, it does offer tenants and landlords a set of recommendations
Landlords: "lol, sure thing"

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Questionmarktarius
01/26/23 11:18:24 AM
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The document, which was published by the White House Domestic Policy Council and the National Economic Council, argues that housing should be safe, decent and affordable.
this is a "pick two" situation, assuming you even get two.
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hockeybub89
01/26/23 11:19:39 AM
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"If u dun liek it, moooove! Commienism!"

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PMarth2002
01/26/23 11:20:34 AM
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Sounds good in theory, but I don't see this going anywhere.

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The_X_Dawg
01/26/23 11:20:46 AM
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lol what a worthless waste of time
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Solar_Crimson
01/26/23 11:20:48 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
While the "Blueprint for a Renters Bill of Rights" released Wednesday is not a set of laws, it does offer tenants and landlords a set of recommendations "intended to support the development of policies and practices that promote fairness for Americans living in rental housing."
Which means it amounts to jackshit.

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Questionmarktarius
01/26/23 11:21:24 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"If u dun liek it, moooove! Commienism!"
meh.
Recommendations mean nothing.
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MetroidGamer666
01/26/23 11:21:44 AM
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Lol
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indica
01/26/23 11:23:14 AM
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NeonTentacles posted...
Landlords: "lol, sure thing"
Yeah, this is meaningless virtue signaling. Shame on the Biden administration, do better

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Returning_CEmen
01/26/23 11:23:43 AM
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California and I assume other states already has a landlord and tenant handbook which references civil code

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Questionmarktarius
01/26/23 11:24:28 AM
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indica posted...
Shame on the Biden administration, do better

"do better" would have been not demolishing all the public housing projects twenty or thirty years ago.
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masterpug53
01/26/23 11:25:58 AM
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Someone I don't think handing out a 'Please Don't Be Greedy' pamphlet to landlords will be as effective as they think it will.

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Giant_Aspirin
01/26/23 11:26:40 AM
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i love the idea, but creating nothing more than recommendations seems kinda stupid

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PMarth2002
01/26/23 11:28:27 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i love the idea, but creating nothing more than recommendations seems kinda stupid

I'm not sure there's much he could do unless he can pass something through congress. Given the republicans control the house, its most likely a dead end.

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Questionmarktarius
01/26/23 11:30:57 AM
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PMarth2002 posted...
I'm not sure there's much he could do unless he can pass something through congress.
Anything that's not a gigantic public housing initiative is going to tied up in the courts forever. Even that likely will as well.
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Lonestar2000
01/26/23 11:54:42 AM
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Everyone should get free basic housing.

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meestermj
01/26/23 12:07:18 PM
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I read through it.
Everything in it is totally fair and reasonable.

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legendary_zell
01/26/23 12:44:56 PM
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There's no doubt that this is done with good intentions and that it would be effective if implemented. The problem is that the landlords have no accountability and don't feel that they need to follow any of this. They accurately believe that they hold almost complete power over their tenants and that they have an entire political party and half of another devoted to protecting their privileges and profits. Until you permanently reduce the power of landlords and their ability to use shelter as an investment vehicle, none of this will matter.

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mustachedmystic
01/26/23 1:12:23 PM
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indica posted...
Yeah, this is meaningless virtue signaling. Shame on the Biden administration, do better
Would proposing a blll that would never make it it to his desk be any different?

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brestugo
01/26/23 2:50:01 PM
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meestermj posted...
I read through it.
Everything in it is totally fair and reasonable.
You're supposed to post a hot take on how it won't work! How can you do that if you've actually read it?

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CasualGuy
01/26/23 2:51:03 PM
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Remember when people acted like Biden wouldn't be a goated president lmao

What a chad

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Questionmarktarius
01/26/23 2:58:39 PM
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brestugo posted...
You're supposed to post a hot take on how it won't work! How can you do that if you've actually read it?
Actual pdf url: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/White-House-Blueprint-for-a-Renters-Bill-of-Rights.pdf

The overall idea seems to be making private leases more like HUD. Without a radical expansion of Section 8, I don't see how this is viable.
How in the hell is this USDA's jurisdiction?
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Payzmaykr
01/26/23 3:04:21 PM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Everyone should get free basic housing.
This. We MUST reclassify housing as a human right. By that, we need privacy, too. I dont want to live in a bunkhouse with a bunch of strangers. We each deserve our own basic house or apartment. Same thing with healthcare. Housing should not cost 90% of your paycheck and a trip to the hospital should not cost a cent.
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bigblu89
01/26/23 3:08:24 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
This. We MUST reclassify housing as a human right. By that, we need privacy, too. I dont want to live in a bunkhouse with a bunch of strangers. We each deserve our own basic house or apartment. Same thing with healthcare. Housing should not cost 90% of your paycheck and a trip to the hospital should not cost a cent.
That would be impossible to implement, simply because some places literally have more people than land to house them in.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to problems that will arise.

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Nemu
01/26/23 3:11:46 PM
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Shouldn't they be focusing on stopping companies from buying up all available housing rather than worry about some silly thing that's not even enforceable?
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Jiek_Fafn
01/26/23 3:16:32 PM
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Surely, the landlords just didn't know how their actions effected other people. Now that they're informed everything will be great. Thanks, Biden!

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bigblu89
01/26/23 3:19:56 PM
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Nemu posted...
Shouldn't they be focusing on stopping companies from buying up all available housing rather than worry about some silly thing that's not even enforceable?

While a good idea in theory, how would something like that be implemented?

Like, who decides how many apartment buildings are "too many" apartment building for one company to own? Does it vary by location?

I am all for affordable housing for everyone, but it's a lot harder than just "lower your prices and don't own as much as you do!".

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Questionmarktarius
01/26/23 3:22:17 PM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Everyone should get free basic housing.
Really, this.
Resurrect the concept of housing projects. Maybe put a police station and modest bodega in the ground floor this time.

You cannot expect the private sector to cover the bottom of the bell curve, especially via unfunded mandates.
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Prismsblade
01/26/23 4:54:56 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
That would be impossible to implement, simply because some places literally have more people than land to house them in.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to problems that will arise.
This could probably work if people were willing to be housed almost anywhere rather then where they and.......most others would probably want to live.

But most of them would likely rather stay or risk homelessness then be forced to live in a lesser city or state. So it probably wouldn't work.


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bigblu89
01/26/23 4:57:28 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
This could probably work if people were willing to be housed almost anywhere rather then where they and.......most others would probably want to live.

But most of them would likely rather stay or risk homelessness then be forced to live in a lesser city or state. So it probably wouldn't work.
Well, yeah.

Imagine living in Pennsylvania, turning 21, and the government knocking on your parents door to tell you that if you get plan on moving out and getting married, you have to go live in Montana.

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indica
01/26/23 8:19:27 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Would proposing a blll that would never make it it to his desk be any different?
It actually would have made no difference, but making a big media deal acting liking you're helping renters when you really did shit is probably worse, yeah

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Questionmarktarius
01/26/23 8:21:15 PM
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Even the most hardcore liberals are fully aware that making it harder for landlords to evict, just makes it harder for renters to get a place at all.
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Agonized_rufous
01/26/23 8:25:57 PM
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They need one for hotels


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Rathinor
01/26/23 8:27:20 PM
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I mean, at least Biden didn't make things worse

Meanwhile Republicans would spit in the faces of renters
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mustachedmystic
01/26/23 8:33:32 PM
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Republican voters are like the guy that got stabbed, and then refuses to testify against the assailant, while insisting the police arrest the EMTs for infringing on his right to bleed out.

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gunplagirl
01/26/23 8:33:44 PM
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Without actual laws this means nothing.

Say, has anyone here (or someone you know) applied for a place and realized after the fact that the place isn't actually letting in any new tenants but instead is just collecting application fees and maybe sometimes having to do a tour of their one open unit?

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Prismsblade
01/26/23 8:46:54 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
Well, yeah.

Imagine living in Pennsylvania, turning 21, and the government knocking on your parents door to tell you that if you get plan on moving out and getting married, you have to go live in Montana.
I didn't mean by force. More so that you request a location and the goverment will attempt to house you in or as near your desired location as possible if they have units available.

Of course the more desirable locations will fill up fast, and like section 8 tenets will probably just live there forever.

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Questionmarktarius
01/26/23 9:12:45 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
and like section 8 tenets will probably just live there forever
...is that "bad" though?
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creativeme
01/26/23 9:52:07 PM
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why if it does legit nothing? need to actually make laws for it. like make it so rent is affordable on minimum wage like it used to be. rent has doubled from pre covid here.

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Questionmarktarius
01/26/23 9:56:29 PM
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creativeme posted...
why if it does legit nothing?

because...
indica posted...
Yeah, this is meaningless virtue signaling.

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tripleh213
01/26/23 9:58:02 PM
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There really needs to be rent control

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Questionmarktarius
01/26/23 9:59:40 PM
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Rent control does more harm than it helps. The only real beneficiaries are the lucky bastards who can get a unit, and never leave.
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01/26/23 10:04:02 PM
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Tackling rent is cool and all, but some of those landlords are also paying $300-800k for those homes to rent out and that alone is a huge problem. Make it easier for Americans to buy a home too.

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Prismsblade
01/26/23 10:11:24 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
...is that "bad" though?
Long term yes. Section 8 as with most welfare programs do not uplift people, at all.

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ThyIlls
01/26/23 10:26:04 PM
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Rathinor posted...
I mean, at least Biden didn't make things worse

Meanwhile Republicans would spit in the faces of renters

Biden is spitting in the face of renters. He's just doing it in a way that gives him plausible deniability. I mean, come on. Guidelines? Biden's a multimillionaire. He probably sees renters as "rentoids".
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candyapplered
01/26/23 10:37:07 PM
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The last thing tenants need in my state is more rights. It is already too expensive and takes too long to get bad tenants out which leads to less people wanting to do long term rentals.

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mustachedmystic
01/26/23 10:41:40 PM
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My sisters lease is up. Despite being a model tenant that has lived there for 8 years, the management will only give her 1 year leases from now on. Luckily doesnt have to put up with that.

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