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MeowMeowKitty30
01/20/23 9:00:47 PM
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A Hit-And-Run Driver Who Plowed Into Mom & Baby In Stolen Car, Killed

A 17-year-old who ran over a mother and her infant in a stroller in Venice, Calif., in 2021, was shot to death in the Antelope Valley.

The teenager who was fatally shot in the Palmdale area, was identified as 17-year-old Kristopher Baca, according to the Los Angeles County coroners office.

The shooting was reported in the evening of Wednesday, Jan. 18, on the 38600 block of 11th Street East, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department.

Deputies responded to a gunshots and found Baca suffering from gunshot wounds, sheriffs officials said.

Baca was pronounced dead at the scene. The incident remains under investigation, and no further information was immediately released.

Baca pleaded guilty to the the hit-and-run case last year and was a topic of conversation when according to Fox News, the Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascon's office sought a five- to seven-month sentence in juvenile probation camp, a punishment for young offenders described as less severe than military school but harsher than summer camp.

The surviving mother shared with Fox News, "The universe delivered the justice we werent given in court, but a much harsher punishment than hed have been dealt in a court of law," she said.

The troubled teen was already on felony probation at the time of the hit-and-run as surveillance cameras captured the scary moment in 2021.

The video clip shows a stolen vehicle speeding the wrong way down a one-way backstreet. It plowed into a woman walking her baby in a stroller.

Then he hit the gas, accelerating away from the scene, where a good Samaritan in a pickup truck rammed the suspect vehicle head on.

Los Angeles police responded and found drugs in the drivers system and marijuana in the car, according to an incident report obtained by Fox News.

The suspect was 15at the time of the hit-and-run and asked the court for an early release from his light punishment. A judge denied the request, but he died before his 18th birthday.

"I think I feel shorted by the system because they didnt hold him accountable and sad, not for him, but for his mom a little, because if George Gascon actually did his job this kid would still be alive in jail," the surviving mother shared.

it should also be noted that this teen was already on felony probation for poisoning a high school girl's drink at the time of the hit-and-run

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TheHoldSteady
01/20/23 9:02:32 PM
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I dunno who I am to say anyone deserves to die at 17

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DepreceV2
01/20/23 9:02:53 PM
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I dont see how you can possibly argue that he didnt deserve what he got. I know he was 17 but you cant get a pass because you are 17. You are old enough to know better.

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hyperskate65
01/20/23 9:03:15 PM
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Chadwick69
01/20/23 9:04:16 PM
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Who knows. We weren't there, we don't know the circumstances of his life, how he was raised, his mental stability. You can't really judge anyone in this world unless you've lived their life.

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Crimson_Corsair
01/20/23 9:09:21 PM
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Chadwick69 posted...
Who knows. We weren't there, we don't know the circumstances of his life, how he was raised, his mental stability. You can't really judge anyone in this world unless you've lived their life.
Wtf is this dribble, the fuck we can't. Dude has free will and decided to do horrible shit.

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__aCEr__
01/20/23 9:10:10 PM
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I wouldn't say he deserved to die but he was clearly a piece of shit living a life where dieing early was a likely outcome.

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Foppe
01/20/23 9:10:12 PM
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What he deserved was something slower and more painful.

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DepreceV2
01/20/23 9:10:28 PM
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Crimson_Corsair posted...
Wtf is this dribble, the fuck we can't. Dude has free will and decided to do horrible shit.

This. I get his overall point but you cant use that logic for every action someone takes

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TheGoldenEel
01/20/23 9:12:01 PM
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Chadwick69 posted...
Who knows. We weren't there, we don't know the circumstances of his life, how he was raised, his mental stability. You can't really judge anyone in this world unless you've lived their life.
yeah this was a child (at the time of the hit & run)

his parents and/or the education system failed him, hard to think of this whole story as anything but sad

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boxoto
01/20/23 9:16:15 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
I dont see how you can possibly argue that he didnt deserve what he got. I know he was 17 but you cant get a pass because you are 17. You are old enough to know better.
he was killed more than a year after the incident, and it's not yet known if the two things are related yet

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ToadallyAwesome
01/20/23 9:16:26 PM
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Bruh, he was poisoning drinks and they let him off that easy for a hit and run in a checks notes Stolen car? What the fuck? He should have gone to juvie.

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eggcorn
01/20/23 9:17:08 PM
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MeowMeowKitty30 posted...
already on felony probation for poisoning a high school girl's drink at the time of the hit-and-run
Yeah I'm not shedding any tears over this piece of shit.

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Lonestar2000
01/20/23 9:17:37 PM
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FYI John and Ken are right-wing nutjobs so take their reporting with a grain of salt.

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cjsdowg
01/20/23 9:19:55 PM
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No he deserved justice, and that should have been doing real time in jail ( of all his crimes). He did not deserve to be murdered.

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Pipotchi
01/20/23 9:20:10 PM
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Im glad the mom & (miraculously) baby survived.
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samsungsalt
01/20/23 9:20:16 PM
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Im excited to see who will get suspended as a result of this thread!

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well-excuse-me
01/20/23 9:28:53 PM
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Chadwick69 posted...
You can't really judge anyone in this world unless you've lived their life.
Eh, yes I can.
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Kimbos_Egg
01/20/23 9:30:16 PM
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hyperskate65 posted...
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Kimbos_Egg
01/20/23 9:31:07 PM
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Chadwick69 posted...
Who knows. We weren't there, we don't know the circumstances of his life, how he was raised, his mental stability. You can't really judge anyone in this world unless you've lived their life.

Who gives a flying fuck what his life was like. I haven't had a great one, but i didn't murder a fucking woman and her baby while high on drugs.

and lol "you can't judge", yes i fucking can.

TheGoldenEel posted...
yeah this was a child (at the time of the hit & run)

his parents and/or the education system failed him, hard to think of this whole story as anything but sad

yes, everybodies fault but his own, right?

I'm sure a milkman once cut infront of him in a line at a store, and that somehow forced him into that life.

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Kastrada
01/20/23 9:34:23 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
Who gives a flying fuck what his life was like. I haven't had a great one, but i didn't murder a fucking woman and her baby while high on drugs.

Neither did he. Luckily the mother and baby survived.

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coolguyjimmy
01/20/23 9:38:50 PM
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well-excuse-me
01/20/23 9:40:32 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
Who gives a flying fuck what his life was like. I haven't had a great one, but i didn't murder a fucking woman and her baby while high on drugs.

and lol "you can't judge", yes i fucking can.

yes, everybodies fault but his own, right?

I'm sure a milkman once cut infront of him in a line at a store, and that somehow forced him into that life.
Milkman?? Lol
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Ararararagi
01/20/23 9:46:04 PM
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No

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Kimbos_Egg
01/20/23 9:49:57 PM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
Before You Embark On A Journey Of Revenge, Dig Two Graves Confucius

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super_clout
01/20/23 9:51:07 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
No he deserved justice, and that should have been doing real time in jail ( of all his crimes). He did not deserve to be murdered.
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super_clout
01/20/23 9:52:20 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
yeah this was a child (at the time of the hit & run)

17 ain't no kid

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MarcyWarcy
01/20/23 9:52:33 PM
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deserved to die? Absolutely not

do I feel upset that he died? Absolutely not
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NoxObscuras
01/20/23 9:53:09 PM
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No i don't think he deserved to be shot to death. He should have been in prison learning to regret his crimes.

And I don't think this shooting is related to the hit and ruin incident. It sounds like he was already headed down a bad path, so it's possible he got himself into trouble with someone else. But the mom of the hit and run victim has a point. Had they put him in jail like they were supposed to, he'd still be alive today.

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Adyingod
01/20/23 9:55:23 PM
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I think if a person is gambling their life in the way this young man was, they deserve what they get. That's life. Being so reckless in the world where we all live, the path he chose determined his fate.

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Ararararagi
01/20/23 9:55:51 PM
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super_clout posted...
17 ain't no kid
Please re-read the article.

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Etna
01/20/23 9:56:59 PM
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super_clout posted...
17 ain't no kid
I bet some people are trying to spin him as some little angel who wouldn't harm a fly

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Solution_45
01/20/23 10:00:36 PM
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karma a bitch
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Chadwick69
01/20/23 10:32:56 PM
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super_clout posted...
17 ain't no kid
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TheGoldenEel
01/20/23 10:34:36 PM
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super_clout posted...
17 ain't no kid
He was 15 when he committed the hit and run, and I dont know if you are familiar with 15 year olds, but my wifes sister is one and they are definitely kids. At least, they should be, and its a failure of this kids environment if he didnt get to have a normal childhood

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pfh1001
01/20/23 10:35:10 PM
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Fair, next.
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ROOTFayth
01/20/23 10:40:46 PM
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Crimson_Corsair posted...
Wtf is this dribble, the fuck we can't. Dude has free will and decided to do horrible shit.
the teenager or the person who shot him?

this thread is great you can easily see who are the good and bad people
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MetroidGamer666
01/20/23 10:46:13 PM
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Foppe posted...
What he deserved was something slower and more painful.

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kingdrake2
01/20/23 10:51:52 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
deserved to die? Absolutely not

do I feel upset that he died? Absolutely not

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gaminggamer13
01/20/23 10:57:03 PM
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That's the path he chose. I doubt he would've had a miraculous change of heart, a sudden epiphany that "hey, maybe I'm a shitty person and I should work on it". Doesn't work like that. I seriously doubt that if he had lived, he would change. Just seems like an incredibly shitty individual who would've no doubt upped the bonnet count if he had survived. I'm relieved that there will be no more innocent victims from this psychopath.
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Chadwick69
01/20/23 11:00:23 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
this thread is great you can easily see who are the good and bad people

Yeah, a lot of people on these boards just react emotionally to any headline they see. They don't think about the fact that he was 15 when he hit that woman and had 2 years to mature since then. But nah according to these people he deserved death and one guy even suggested torture.

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Pipotchi
01/20/23 11:09:15 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
the teenager or the person who shot him?

this thread is great you can easily see who are the good and bad people

If youre able to operate a motor vehicle & mow over an infant + their mom with it & then show no remorse over it (which, judging from the mothers words on the incident, he most likely didnt) I feel youve forfeited your right to live - maybe not legally, but certainly in spirit. Dont think thats an overly harsh thing to say.
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Chadwick69
01/20/23 11:11:05 PM
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Pipotchi posted...
If youre able to operate a motor vehicle & mow over an infant + their mom with it & then show no remorse over it (which, judging from the mothers words on the incident, he most likely didnt) I feel youve forfeited your right to live - maybe not legally, but certainly in spirit. Dont think thats an overly harsh thing to say.
Do you know how many assumptions you just made with how little information you're presented with? lol

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Adyingod
01/20/23 11:12:03 PM
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Chadwick69 posted...
one guy even suggested torture
Personally I wouldn't go that far. However, I do not believe this young man deserved a second chance. Think how you would feel being the father of a child who may be scarred for life. Some may want to show pity on the young man, others may not. The justice system is flawed and God has nothing to do with law and order, imo. Does that make me a bad person? Perhaps. Does that make others "good"?

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Pipotchi
01/20/23 11:14:57 PM
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Chadwick69 posted...
Do you know how many assumptions you just made with how little information you're presented with? lol

1. That he showed no remorse (not even up front but just that it seemed most likely)

He was 15 at the time but he was tall enough & had the knowhow to start and operate the vehicle even if he didnt have a permit, thats not an assumption
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Adyingod
01/20/23 11:19:50 PM
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Let's just let kids run amok! They might grow out of it.

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viewmaster_pi
01/20/23 11:20:40 PM
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one could argue he "deserved" what he got just because he kept running with a bad crowd. stealing cars at 15, even if he never hit anyone, then he chose not to turn his life around after juvi, and that's what got him killed. doesn't even really have to do with the hit & run. i'm sure people tried getting through to him, but sometimes it just doesn't happen

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