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the_pika
01/19/23 11:10:26 AM
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The transophobia and all that.

someone mentioned here that she funds organizations that work against trans people? Like, which ones?

I am legit out of the loop here, honest question.

it does seem odd because she seemed to be pretty woke? I mean fantastic beasts 1 and 2 were basically an allegory of MAGA taking over politics (with the muggles being the equivalent to minorities, there is even a mixed couple in the plot!).

not trying to raise controversy here, I just want to read more about the bad things shes done
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bigblu89
01/19/23 11:15:41 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_J._K._Rowling#Transgender_rights

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Kaiganeer
01/19/23 11:16:31 AM
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she wrote the harry potter books
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_BlueMonk
01/19/23 11:17:17 AM
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the_pika posted...
someone mentioned here that she funds organizations that work against trans people? Like, which ones?
iirc she started a women's shelter that denys entry for trans women. on purpose.

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MetroidGamer666
01/19/23 11:18:28 AM
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She is a far leftist however she believes there is a distinction between biological women and trans women.
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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 11:18:53 AM
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_BlueMonk posted...
iirc she started a women's shelter that denys entry for trans women. on purpose.
balance it out imo, start a shelter for transwomen only!
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R1masher
01/19/23 11:19:08 AM
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Jk is just kidding and Rowling is rolling over while laughing inside now giggling

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SenlinDescends
01/19/23 11:19:42 AM
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_BlueMonk posted...
iirc she started a women's shelter that denys entry for trans women. on purpose.
She also supports Gays against Groomers and Libs of Tiktok, two hategroups on twitter

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CyricZ
01/19/23 11:21:50 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
balance it out imo, start a shelter for transwomen only!
To balance it out we'd first need a billionaire children's book author.

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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 11:22:35 AM
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CyricZ posted...
To balance it out we'd first need a billionaire children's book author.
nah you just need someone with as much reach as she has, no need to write childrens book lol
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CyricZ
01/19/23 11:26:52 AM
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Regardless, creating a whole bunch of "blacks only" water fountains doesn't address the nature of the segregationist efforts.

Wait, what were we talking about?

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MaxEffingBemis
01/19/23 11:28:06 AM
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MetroidGamer666 posted...
She is a far leftist however she believes there is a distinction between biological women and trans women.
No the fuck she isnt. Shes your basic bang-average liberal which is not at all what a leftist is. Someone posted a link to her political views and its exactly what some run of the mill lib would believe in including appropriating Native American culture and condemning the boycotting of Israeli goods

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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 11:30:07 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Regardless, creating a whole bunch of "blacks only" water fountains doesn't address the nature of the segregationist efforts.

Wait, what were we talking about?
meh I dont feel like its comparable to a shelter though, like you ve got women only gyms, is this segregation as well since men are not allowed there?
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CyricZ
01/19/23 12:00:35 PM
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Well that gets to the question of gender segregation on the whole. Ask yourself do we need spaces that are gender segregated and if not then why this shelter, and if so, why exclude trans women from a women's shelter?

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Rexdragon125
01/19/23 12:05:41 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou_xvXJJk7k
https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/jk-rowling-matt-walsh-transphobia/

She's been hanging out with white supremacists and transphobes and it's been rubbing off on her lately
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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 12:08:30 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Well that gets to the question of gender segregation on the whole. Ask yourself do we need spaces that are gender segregated and if not then why this shelter, and if so, why exclude trans women from a women's shelter?
I dont know I think it may just be a case by case thing, where maybe some groups of people do need segregated space, like personally I dont mind the women gym thing, if women feel less judged and more comfortable in that space then good for them
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Shadow_Don
01/19/23 12:11:20 PM
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She has historically been on the side of the left and the progressives but she has really dug a deep hole with respect to her views on trans people. I think there are a lot of leftists/liberals out there, especially older ones, that have a reasonable view on women's rights and gay rights but don't yet understand trans people, which is perfectly fine up until you decide to make that one issue the core of your political identity.

A lot of the concern trolls and bad faith actors like to point out how she is a true leftist but now she is constantly surrounding herself with very far-right people who are anti- everything she supposedly used to stand for before she took issue with the trans community.

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Gwynevere
01/19/23 12:26:48 PM
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SenlinDescends posted...
She also supports Gays against Groomers and Libs of Tiktok, two hategroups on twitter
And she associates with Matt Walsh, a self proclaimed theocratic fascist

I'm not sure how far you can stretch plausible deniability when you're sitting at the table surrounded by far right extremists and fascists

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Gamespoht
01/19/23 12:32:39 PM
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There's some JK's fans who are fully against lgbt-related things and yet conveniently forget about the gay wizard retcon years after the books dropped

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ArchNemo
01/19/23 12:46:08 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Ask yourself do we need spaces that are gender segregated and if not then why this shelter

I mean, are you asking if a shelter that holds women who are fleeing abuse, the vast majority of the time by men, needs to be gender segregated?

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CyricZ
01/19/23 12:54:39 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
I mean, are you asking if a shelter that holds women who are fleeing abuse, the vast majority of the time by men, needs to be gender segregated?
Just covering all bases here.

If you're asking, I personally see the value in gender segregated spaces for our society as it stands now.

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Antifar
01/19/23 1:04:11 PM
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I would just note that far from being a "leftist on every issue except one" as is sometimes portrayed by her right wing defenders, Rowling was a vocal critic of Jeremy Corbyn during his leadership of the Labour Party. Her politics wouldn't look out of place alongside, I don't know, Hillary Clinton.

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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 1:05:35 PM
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maybe we just stop labeling people left or right and accept that people are just people and they have different opinions on different issues

but yeah this wouldn't be nearly as entertaining
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the_pika
01/19/23 1:39:28 PM
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_BlueMonk posted...
iirc she started a women's shelter that denys entry for trans women. on purpose.

that sucks.

did she build it and then it turns out it denies trans people or did she build it just so she could deny trans people?

one is bad, the other is far worse
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CyricZ
01/19/23 1:43:34 PM
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the_pika posted...
that sucks.

did she build it and then it turns out it denies trans people or did she build it just so she could deny trans people?

one is bad, the other is far worse
The latter

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the_pika
01/19/23 1:43:50 PM
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CyricZ posted...
The latter

yeah that is pretty bad
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bigblu89
01/19/23 1:43:53 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
maybe we just stop labeling people left or right and accept that people are just people and they have different opinions on different issues

but yeah this wouldn't be nearly as entertaining

Nope. Everyone needs to be put in a left or right box.

You're either 100% with us, or you're the enemy.

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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 1:45:30 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
Nope. Everyone needs to be put in a left or right box.

You're either 100% with us, or you're the enemy.
hahaha it does seem that way quite often
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meestermj
01/19/23 1:47:00 PM
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If you go back and look at Harry Potter with a critical eye (even the new game) it has some really problematic imagery and concepts.

That's on top of her being a raging transphobe.

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SenlinDescends
01/19/23 1:47:03 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
maybe we just stop labeling people left or right and accept that people are just people and they have different opinions on different issues

but yeah this wouldn't be nearly as entertaining
Maybe stop referring to outright bigotry as "a different opinion".

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CyricZ
01/19/23 1:47:25 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
maybe we just stop labeling people left or right and accept that people are just people and they have different opinions on different issues

but yeah this wouldn't be nearly as entertaining
"Left" and "right" are handy as reference points, but no further.

Never trust anyone who calls themselves a centrist.

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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 1:48:38 PM
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SenlinDescends posted...
Maybe stop referring to outright bigotry as "a different opinion".
I'll take a wild guess you're talking about the JK Rowling issues, my comment was encompassing every single political issues you can think of, I wasn't singling out anything, you're doing that
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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 1:49:35 PM
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CyricZ posted...
"Left" and "right" are handy as reference points, but no further.

Never trust anyone who calls themselves a centrist.
prob never trust anyone who calls themselves anything regarding politics
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Rexdragon125
01/19/23 1:59:18 PM
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Bigotry and culture war is the GOP's political platform
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MaxEffingBemis
01/19/23 2:08:04 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
prob never trust anyone who calls themselves anything regarding politics
This screams I dont understand anything about politics like you sound like my best friend who doesnt get politics.

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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 2:10:16 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
This screams I dont understand anything about politics like you sound like my best friend who doesnt get politics.
well I don't understand every single issues no obviously, I doubt anybody does, I just think the vast majority of people lean right on some issues and left on some other issues so that labeling yourself in any sort of way is really just trying to fit in a group or a tribe
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MaxEffingBemis
01/19/23 2:12:09 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
well I don't understand every single issues no obviously, I doubt anybody does, I just think the vast majority of people lean right on some issues and left on some other issues so that labeling yourself in any sort of way is really just trying to fit in a group or a tribe
Buddy if you dont understand this stuff maybe dont comment on it. And youre wrong btw - vast majority of people lean left on most issues. Thats why the dems are the ones in power

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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 2:13:48 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Buddy if you dont understand this stuff maybe dont comment on it. And youre wrong btw - vast majority of people lean left on most issues. Thats why the dems are the ones in power
you basically agreed with me while telling me I'm wrong, it's a little confusing
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wanderingshade
01/19/23 2:13:50 PM
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She does seem left of center, except when it comes to Women's Rights and Feminism she thinks Transwomen are infiltrators and need to be gatekept.

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CyricZ
01/19/23 2:15:17 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
prob never trust anyone who calls themselves anything regarding politics
For that I feel it's better to demonstrate. Show rather than tell.

But how does a centrist demonstrate.

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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 2:18:43 PM
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CyricZ posted...
For that I feel it's better to demonstrate. Show rather than tell.

But how does a centrist demonstrate.
well I'm guessing a centrist would side with the left for exactly half the issues and with the right for the other half of the issues? so they demonstrate by acting in accordance to what they believe is right for each different issue, that's what makes most sense to me at least

(I said exactly half but maybe it could be 60/40 or 55/45 or something, doesnt matter too much)
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Gamespoht
01/19/23 2:36:18 PM
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CyricZ posted...
For that I feel it's better to demonstrate. Show rather than tell.

But how does a centrist demonstrate.
Like a conservative that won't fully commit to being one

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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 2:36:21 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

no guiding ideology as in what? not being extreme left or extreme right is fucking weird?
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dj1200
01/19/23 2:37:09 PM
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jk LOLing

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Cocytus
01/19/23 2:38:12 PM
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*sees topic title*
*sees number of posts*
*shakes head and laughs*
*takes time to type all these actions and not really say anything*
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ROOTFayth
01/19/23 2:39:04 PM
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Im sorry you feel this way
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