Current Events > I've been conditioned to view these tiny homes as Late Stage Capitalism

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Ratchetrockon posted...

Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys lived in something like that lol

Ya...this is just his shed and breakfast idea done without Julian fucking it up.

Everything eventually decays back into feudalism.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Everything eventually decays back into feudalism.

Nope. Capitalism does because it makes the rich richer and richer till they become Lords who own all the land and regular people are just poor and own nothing.

WingsOfGood posted...

Nope. Capitalism does because it makes the rich richer and richer till they become Lords who own all the land and regular people are just poor and own nothing.

In contrast to Communism, which starts with the regular people being poor and owning nothing.

WingsOfGood posted...

Nope. Capitalism does because it makes the rich richer and richer till they become Lords who own all the land and regular people are just poor and own nothing.

There's always someone getting richer and richer no matter the platform.

Questionmarktarius posted...

In contrast to Communism, which starts with the regular people being poor and owning nothing.

Interesting you cannot deny whay I said. You pivot to "b-b-but Communism!"

Do you have kids? If you do you should be worried how things are shaping for them. Even if you leave them a home to inherit they will have a hard time paying their property taxes with what is coming.

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

Where do you poop

A gang latrine, probably in the center of the park.

voldothegr8 posted...

There's always someone getting richer and richer no matter the platform.

Do you own a home?
Assets like homes have to keep going up for the rich to get richer. The system has to do it as that is whole point of the capitalist system. Homes won't crash. Even when they dip the rich will buy them out more.
Only a failing at every level causes a reset but that means the system itself broke people starve in mass and die and banks go out of business in a great depression.

WingsOfGood posted...

Interesting you cannot deny whay I said.

What's to deny? The backslide towards feudalism always happens, and very occasionally gets kicked the other way.

Questionmarktarius posted...

What's to deny? The backslide towards feudalism always happens, and very occasionally gets kicked the other way.

Yeah, but unlike some other economic systems, feudalism is a feature of capitalism, not a bug.

Questionmarktarius posted...

What's to deny? The backslide towards feudalism always happens, and very occasionally gets kicked the other way.

Inevitable in Capitalism and you said the quiet part out loud that we are there today.

Hell, a single 40' shipping container is already a prebuilt frame for a home, complete with walls.

You'd just need to:

1. cut some windows in it,
2. add a normal front door,
3. spray some exterior spray-foam insulation on it,
4. put in electrical wiring, and
5. put in plumbing and a bathroom.

Voila, a 1-bedroom home... dirt cheap, too.

WingsOfGood posted...

So you admit this next gen never being able to afford actual land means Capitalism is dead and we are now in Feudalism?
Watched a guy last night who said that is how it is. Most young people will never own a home unless they born to the right family. This is Feudalism.

We do live in feudalism. We've replaced lords with CEOs, knights with lawyers, and serfs with "unskilled yet somehow essential labor"

Tyranthraxus posted...

We do live in feudalism. We've replaced lords with CEOs, knights with lawyers, and serfs with "unskilled yet somehow essential labor"

Knights also with armchair internet warriors who love "got mine fuck you" mindset and praise the system and say "yeah but what would you replace it with hmmm HMM!?!?!"

looks better than the dorm room i spent $9k a year on

Most jail cells are larger!

WingsOfGood posted...

Knights also with armchair internet warriors who love "got mine fuck you" mindset and praise the system and say "yeah but what would you replace it with hmmm HMM!?!?!"

i ain't got any knights

Seems preferable to homelessness, and I doubt they're intended to be occupied long-term

You know that these shacks cost, when including hookups for water and sewage... $43,000 a piece. And that's for a 64 square foot shack.

Whereas for $59,200, you can get a 160 square foot luxury microhome. I'd say with some mass-production... you could easily get this down to the same price as those shacks.

https://mekamodular.com/models/standard/liberty-160/

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/8/AAfQqfAAEEtc.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/9/AAfQqfAAEEtd.jpg

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Tom_Joad posted...

https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-prefab-tiny-home-la-house-homeless-2021-4

A 64-square-foot Pallet shelter starts at $4,900.
But external costs such as sewage, electricity, and internet bumped the cost of each bed at the Alexandria Park location up to about $43,000.

So wait, that's the cost to the company running this thing right? They're not actually charging people $43,000 for what is essentially a tool shed with a bed in it.

I'd want a breakdown of where that extra $38100 went.

To be fair, these are just modern day "Hoovervilles".

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/9/8/AADR1fAAEEt6.jpg

Questionmarktarius posted...

Source?
I see what looks like masonite, and that has a decade or two before dissolving.

i'm not against tiny home concepts, but these houses are very puny. I work with containment panels, and the panels look scarily close to the Edgeguard panels. Search them up and you'll see the resemblance.

And let me say, Edgeguard is incredibly weak. It doesn't block sound, imperfectly blocks moisture, and comes apart easy. I'm not saying it's the same product, but they look eerily similar meaning a similar manufacturer possibly made them.

geno_16 posted...

A 64-square-foot Pallet shelter starts at $4,900.
But external costs such as sewage, electricity, and internet bumped the cost of each bed at the Alexandria Park location up to about $43,000.

So wait, that's the cost to the company running this thing right? They're not actually charging people $43,000 for what is essentially a tool shed with a bed in it.

Those living in the sheds aren't being charged anything. The city of LA buys the shed for $4,900... then spends another $38,000~ kitting it out.

The city could probably buy, en masse, the Meka Modular Liberty 160 for the same money. So they're really not getting their money's worth.

Tom_Joad posted...

Those living in the sheds aren't being charged anything. The city of LA buys the shed for $4,900... then spends another $38,000~ kitting it out.

The city could probably buy, en masse, the Meka Modular Liberty 160 for the same money. So they're really not getting their money's worth.

I'd imagine a good chunk of the expanses are due to the land cost. On top of everything else. Honestly you're probabaly paying for the location more then anything else.

Tom_Joad posted...

You know that these shacks cost, when including hookups for water and sewage... $43,000 a piece. And that's for a 64 square foot shack.

Whereas for $59,200, you can get a 160 square foot luxury microhome. I'd say with some mass-production... you could easily get this down to the same price as those shacks.

https://mekamodular.com/models/standard/liberty-160/

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/8/AAfQqfAAEEtc.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/9/AAfQqfAAEEtd.jpg

Now this is what I was imagining by tiny home. Geez, at least give them three rooms; one a kitchen and one a bathroom and one the bed/desk room.

Unless there's actual ownership of these cubes, why not just resurrect the idea of "the projects"?

sure seems better than just letting the homeless die shelterless, not really sure what the outrage is here unless they actually expect a non-homeless person to buy one of these

They could build a best western style hotel and house like 40,000 people in a higher quality living situation for like 8 million instead of 100 little houses for like half a million

That's way more cost effective

Jesus Christ, this makes my basement apartment look like the Ritz

GreenMario posted...

Now this is what I was imagining by tiny home. Geez, at least give them three rooms; one a kitchen and one a bathroom and one the bed/desk room.

Seriously, I have three rooms: kitchen/living, bedroom, bathroom. Plus a pantry and two closets.
My bathroom alone is bigger than those things

TaylorHeinicke posted...

sure seems better than just letting the homeless die shelterless, not really sure what the outrage is here unless they actually expect a non-homeless person to buy one of these

So long as this is just one temporary step on the journey to a better quality of life and not the final destination, even if they were only for the homeless

they can do better than these tiny ass cubes long term

Tom_Joad posted...

a single 40' shipping container is already a prebuilt frame for a home, complete with walls.

ducey or whichever in arizona is taking all the storage containers to makeshift a wall for those border hopping bastards.

no more shipping containers for makeshift homes.

kingdrake2 posted...

ducey or whichever in arizona is taking all the storage containers to makeshift a wall for those border hopping bastards.

no more shipping containers for makeshift homes.

Live in the border wall.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Live in the border wall.

We could house immigrants in the border wall

It's win-win!