Board 8 > Alcohol topic 3 can drink all day if you dont start in the morning

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Corrik7 posted...

Han is scum and he doesn't know that Town was given reasons for why their flavor fit their role and alignment.

Good try, Han. It's how Sultan phrased the role pms. Guess you shoulda asked for a fake one before going this route.

Kill Han. For real.

This also seems like too 5head of an argument for scum to make. Though Corrik is a 5head scum. Still, it really requires some town perspective thinking

Hey corrik wheres your supposed kill you were going to do

PunishedBen posted...

This also seems like too 5head of an argument for scum to make. Though Corrik is a 5head scum. Still, it really requires some town perspective thinking

The thing is, though, it's incredibly bad logic. So it's more of a 1head argument to make.

Assuming that Scum would not have flavor that explains why their flavor fits their role? Like, what?

Not to mention he's (deliberately?) misrepresenting my argument on Ctes.

Like, the reason I've thought worse on Corrik is because the following train of logic:

1. Corrik is not illiterate
2. Last game, he misrepresented things I was saying when they were pretty easy to understand! He was Scum
3. This game, he is misrepresenting things I said when I feel like they're pretty easy to understand.

Like, I have to disagree with you on this one Ben, because it looks more to me like Corrik finding a loose thread and tunneling it completely without having the gall to do anything else. It's the same play he did last game.

Corrik is playing like someone who does not think he's going to die.

Also, speaking of Ctes, I'm turning thoughts around on him.

Isquen posted...

I didn't buy the vanilla claim when he went hostile at the end, and I was hoping to see if Corrik would do something with that shot he was waving around.

If Isquen is scum this post makes me think him and Corrik are not on the same team since he believed or at least is pretending to believe Corrik's vig claim as an argument for why to sleep with plum

Han I will be honest I read what you said and what corrik described as the same thing

take that as you will

PunishedBen posted...

This was said to defend Marth from a flavor attack by Plum. Does this make Ctes town? Maybe I'm a sucker who thinks scum is incapable of using their fake flavor as a weapon for good. That would be a 5head play for scum to make

I've been thinking about this one a bit.

Him saying that in defense does show that he had his flavor claim ahead of time. And I would believe that he's telling the truth about Sultan saying he didn't like the flavor.

I guess the issue at hand would be - what is the flavor split, and does that affect the result, here? I mean, Plum went at it with a "Sultan likes dark beers, so lite beer has to be scum because it's bad", and that's what called for the post from Ctes. If Ctes were Scum, he would be saying this, having his flavor already, knowing that such a flavor split does not exist.

Does such a flavor split not exist? Sultan said he "didn't love" a seltzer. Unless Scum was just stuff he hates, and that's what the idea behind Porter being a miller was.

Even still, if Scum knows that good vs bad beers is not the split, does Ctes cut in with that statement?

I feel like you're right and that the answer is no, but I'll have to sleep on it. It's a little late and I'm not in a mental state to read that one over. But I'll reconsider.

Really though, the sketchy thing here is that good sours are amazing, so...

Chaeix posted...

Han I will be honest I read what you said and what corrik described as the same thing

take that as you will

Even after I explained the difference?

Corrik is very clearly saying "Han doesn't know that Town role PM's have flavor that say why roles fit the flavor."

I said "Town, when claiming, does not paraphrase their flavor."

Those are very different things!

I completely agree with Han's take on how scum will often paraphrase their flavor needlessly and give themselves away. But i am forgetting who did that and if they are already dead or not

PunishedBen posted...

I completely agree with Han's take on how scum will often paraphrase their flavor needlessly and give themselves away. But i am forgetting who did that and if they are already dead or not

It was Ctes.

i went back and relooked and you are in fact correct

don't do drugs kids

Let's say Ben is finding important stuff right now.
Let's say that Corrik is Town and I'm leaning away from that because I get suspicious of people who gun for me when I'm Town.
Let's say that Ctes is Town based on what Ben found.
Let's say Plum Town.
Let's say Red Town because of how he clapped at SBell.

Leaves a list like this.
I want to say Lea and JC are Town.

Abacus and Lopen are probably where I would look next, if I convinced myself that Ctes was not Scum because of that post and that Corrik is not Scum (both of these will take some work).

1. Abacus
6.isquen
7.JC
8.Lopen
9.Lea

I was feeling good about Lopen at the start of the game, but it feels like he's been a little absent. I'd have to see more Lopen play to sway me back.

Probably going to need to reread from the start of day 1 to reassess some of these players.

Chaeix posted...

i went back and relooked and you are in fact correct

don't do drugs kids

This is why after D1 I docked Corrik massive points in my Town equity.

In the previous game, I got into a row with Corrik on D1, basically because he was saying I said things that I did not say. I got mad, and apologized (he didn't even accept the apology), and it turns out he was just dragging me along anyway.

It's a direct one-to-one, here. And like, there's a lot more somebody could do if they were trying to actually find Scum. Corrik parked on Scare for all of the previous game until he died from claiming. I think a Town Corrik would be giving us more.

and based off of that i assume you think he's not vig either way?

Corrik isn't a vig.

I did have a thought that he was setting up the entire day to use a Scum EK on one of the people who refused to claim for him (though it would have been me at end of day), and then he would have forecasted it enough to claim it.

But then didn't bother because a day-gambler AND a weak doc flipped.

But really, I think there just isn't another extra kill in the game.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Let's say Ben is finding important stuff right now.
Let's say that Corrik is Town and I'm leaning away from that because I get suspicious of people who gun for me when I'm Town.
Let's say that Ctes is Town based on what Ben found.
Let's say Plum Town.
Let's say Red Town because of how he clapped at SBell.

Leaves a list like this.
I want to say Lea and JC are Town.

Abacus and Lopen are probably where I would look next, if I convinced myself that Ctes was not Scum because of that post and that Corrik is not Scum (both of these will take some work).

1. Abacus
6.isquen
7.JC
8.Lopen
9.Lea

I was feeling good about Lopen at the start of the game, but it feels like he's been a little absent. I'd have to see more Lopen play to sway me back.

Probably going to need to reread from the start of day 1 to reassess some of these players.

Not used to anyone taking me seriously. But yes I agree with that list except for Lea. And i trust you on Red if you are town.

A gunshot rang out as if from nowhere.

Han has died! He was Hazy IPA, TOWN Mason.

Everyone looked around, confused. Nobody was brandishing a gun. Not one person.

1. Abacus
2. Ben
3. Corrik
4. Ctes
5. Isquen
6. JC
7. Lopen
8. Lea
9. Plum
10. Red

Out of stock
D1: Mzero Town Desperato
D1: Marth Town Doctor
N1: Sbell Town Tracker
D2: Han Town Mason

Day 2 has ended. Yes, you read that right: Day 2 has ended. Please get night actions to Sultan by 7 pm Eastern tomorrow! (Sultan will post full flip when he gets on)

Fell asleep will post a full write up in the morning sorry for the inconvenience

Why why would someone shot someone when the host was sleeping?!

Han was standing in the bar pitching to the crowd that they should stand up and stop the madness. The Hazy IPA is Cloudy so someone must have thought it has gone bad. Someone from the back pulled the plug on the Keg and let it drain!

HAN HAD DIED HE WAS:

Hazy IPA Town Informed Mason

Hello your Mason Buddy is .... and their flavor is India Pale Ale

Youre my wife's favorite and a more specific style of IPA. Cloudy and unfiltered and full of hops. I do like a Hazy IPA from time to time and enjoy a sip or 2 when my wife gets one. What does a Hazy IPA have to do with your role you might ask.. well nothing really but their are several types of IPA but you and your buddy are the only 2 in the game have fun bonding over being Hoppy.

Out of stock
D1: Mzero Town Desperato
D1: Marth Town Doctor
N1: Sbell Town Tracker
D2: Han Town Informed Mason.

Crap my phone closed my post.

Anyways I'll cut the flavor short.

They said down the the IPAs they Said!

Red has been killed he was:

India Pale Ale (IPA) Town informed Mason

Hello your Mason buddy is Han and their flavor is Hazy IPA

Youre one of my wives favorite drinks she prefers your buddy but that is okay. From time to time I do enjoy a good IPA usually the citrus ones that do not include grapefruit. What does being an IPA have to do with Mason's Nothing really but their are many types of IPA and you and your buddy are the only two in this game so have fun bonding over being hoppy.

As a Mason you have access to this special chat to talk to your fellow IPA all game long as long as you're both still alive.

Players list
1. Abacus
2.Ben
3.Corrik
4.Ctes
5. isquen
6..JC
7.Lopen
8.Lea
9..Plum

Out of stock
D1: Mzero Town Desperato
D1: Marth Town Doctor
N1: Sbell Town Tracker
D2.han town Mason
N2: Red Town Mason

Go!

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik isn't a vig.

I did have a thought that he was setting up the entire day to use a Scum EK on one of the people who refused to claim for him (though it would have been me at end of day), and then he would have forecasted it enough to claim it.

But then didn't bother because a day-gambler AND a weak doc flipped.

But really, I think there just isn't another extra kill in the game.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Han has died! He was Hazy IPA, TOWN Mason.

Assuming that was Corrik, that was one of the most hilarious moments I've ever seen.

And damn, that explains why Han was so trusting of Red.

We kill Isquen today, but I do want to know if anyone plans on claiming the Han kill.

And if there's any OTHER vigs I should know about

hey corrik did you shoot han

i think the extra kill makes it very possible were looking at a 3+1 situation but we absolutely need to treat today like mylo despite that. at least we have isquen as what appears to be a safe lynch.

im assuming plum was RBd otherwise red dying wouldnt make any sense

I'm giving up. I think I know who scum is, but this game isn't fun to me. I don't understand why shots keep ending days. It's day 2. We are probably at mylo or some shit and we haven't had a single actual lynch all game. I'm peaced out good luck. Everything I have done to spur info at lynches has been for waste and pointless.

hey corrik if youre going to give up and youre not claiming the shot you should be a friend and give us your real claim before giving up please and thank you

Are we going to actually get to lynch someone this game

I scanned JC and got back that Plum was Town

Middle of a game be back soon

Chaeix posted...

hey corrik if youre going to give up and youre not claiming the shot you should be a friend and give us your real claim before giving up please and thank you

Vanilla. Sultan used to love to drink it but it's not popular anymore and was just a fad so it's vanilla. Later.

masterplum posted...

Are we going to actually get to lynch someone this game

I scanned JC and got back that Plum was Town

Middle of a game be back soon

Well, I am le sad that you didnt get a chance to scan me but I can only assume bus driver here given that Im not some kind of action reflector.

masterplum posted...

Are we going to actually get to lynch someone this game

I scanned JC and got back that Plum was Town

Middle of a game be back soon

You're gonna have to retype that

Oh. If he literally got back that Plum was town then that must be the role block in effect. He literally got Plummoxxed

Or JC is that Mirror role that Lea had in DOTA mafia. That actually wouldn't surprise me at all

PunishedBen posted...

Or JC is that Mirror role that Lea had in DOTA mafia. That actually wouldn't surprise me at all

That wouldnt explain why plum is still alive and wasnt roleblocked, unless we think mafia doesnt have an RB.

I think a more likely situation is they tried to RB him, shot red, and the RB was redirected to me where it fizzled.

Good point. No way plum was left unblocked

friends come on I need to be entertained on this Friday night :(

Chaeix posted...

That wouldnt explain why plum is still alive and wasnt roleblocked, unless we think mafia doesnt have an RB.

I think a more likely situation is they tried to RB him, shot red, and the RB was redirected to me where it fizzled.

So you are untargetable?

masterplum posted...

So you are untargetable?

No sir I am not. I do not reflect, I do not detect, I do not reject.

idk what detect means there but I needed a third word

Anyway

##Vote:Isquen

i dont know.

This was allegedly checked by Chris but I cant come up with any way this game is balanced whatsoever so maybe this is actually lylo and we need to be careful with votes. I cant come up with any way a 3 person scum team is balanced against this even assuming scum has that ridiculously overpowered day kill.

So lets just kill isquen and see whats left after that

Chaeix posted...

No sir I am not. I do not reflect, I do not detect, I do not reject.

idk what detect means there but I needed a third word

Why did you assume it fizzled when it hit you then

masterplum posted...

Why did you assume it fizzled when it hit you then

amber ale, vanilla

My gut is scum team is Isquen JC Corrik

But I am feeling similar fatigue to Corrik here which might mean he is town as we usually think the same. It doesnt feel like this was actually a game of mafia

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Let's say Ben is finding important stuff right now.
Let's say that Corrik is Town and I'm leaning away from that because I get suspicious of people who gun for me when I'm Town.
Let's say that Ctes is Town based on what Ben found.
Let's say Plum Town.
Let's say Red Town because of how he clapped at SBell.

Leaves a list like this.
I want to say Lea and JC are Town.

Abacus and Lopen are probably where I would look next, if I convinced myself that Ctes was not Scum because of that post and that Corrik is not Scum (both of these will take some work).

1. Abacus
6.isquen
7.JC
8.Lopen
9.Lea

I was feeling good about Lopen at the start of the game, but it feels like he's been a little absent. I'd have to see more Lopen play to sway me back.

Probably going to need to reread from the start of day 1 to reassess some of these players.

Well i mean, this is the post that presumably Han was killed over. I would still assume one or both of Abacus and Lopen are scum. Where the heck has Lopen been anyway?

I want to know who Isquen slept with before with lynch him.

before we*

don't do drugs

PunishedBen posted...

Where the heck has Lopen been anyway?

Lol

##Vote: Isquen

Random thoughts tomorrow if day is still up

masterplum posted...

My gut is scum team is Isquen JC Corrik

But I am feeling similar fatigue to Corrik here which might mean he is town as we usually think the same. It doesnt feel like this was actually a game of mafia

These days aren't spose to end on these shots and it's frustrating to be a part of this.

Like you realize if scum shot Han then Scum just took control of the lynch day 2 right?

That's against mafia rules.