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Makeveli_lives
12/19/22 8:23:38 AM
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https://twitter.com/ign/status/1604673144354230277?s=46&t=lbEK0_L_Ky33wTyMWs-chQ

most standard pcs and entry level laptops come with 16 these days. Go back 2 years and your looking at 8gb to start on most laptops.

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Error1355
12/19/22 8:26:19 AM
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Glad I went with 32GB on my new build then, yeesh.

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Bigpapaplut
12/19/22 8:28:54 AM
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And it will probably still run like shit
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Doom_Art
12/19/22 8:30:10 AM
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that's fucking ridiculous

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s0nicfan
12/19/22 8:30:35 AM
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That's twice what the PS5 has. The port must be an unoptimized mess.

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CalosiaTana
12/19/22 8:34:42 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/1/AAY5SRAAEAYJ.jpg

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Makeveli_lives
12/19/22 8:54:19 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
that's fucking ridiculous
To be fair, Returnal is a lot of game to go through. Still need to beat mine honestly.

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voldothegr8
12/19/22 8:55:35 AM
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Da fuck?

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BearlyWilling
12/19/22 8:56:38 AM
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more unoptimized ports for the mAsTeR rACe

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Doom_Art
12/19/22 8:57:12 AM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
To be fair, Returnal is a lot of game to go through. Still need to beat mine honestly.
yeah but like when you have games with just as much graphical fidelity and just as much (or more) content, then it's a bit nutty that Returnal needs that much.

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Makeveli_lives
12/19/22 8:59:08 AM
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Guys its just a recommendation lol.
Im sure there will be work around, there always are in pc gaming.

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Were_Wyrm
12/19/22 9:05:20 AM
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When are we getting a mod to make the MC the Macho Man?

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TwoDoorPC
12/19/22 9:05:49 AM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Guys its just a recommendation lol.
Im sure there will be work around, there always are in pc gaming.

yeah, like downloading more ram

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VampireCoyote
12/19/22 9:06:40 AM
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that game is soooooo good

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Jagr_68
12/19/22 9:11:31 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
That's twice what the PS5 has. The port must be an unoptimized mess.

But PC master race, possibilities endless, etc.

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Ratchetrockon
12/19/22 9:11:57 AM
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I have 32 gb ram but im still gonna boycott this game. Who else is with me on this?

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OudeGeuze
12/19/22 9:13:34 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
But PC master race, possibilities endless, etc.
Shitty devs is not an argument against PC gaming, its an argument that the devs can't do their job properly
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Foppe
12/19/22 9:19:49 AM
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What happened with every game having an army of modders making it better?

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NoxObscuras
12/19/22 9:21:03 AM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Guys its just a recommendation lol.
Im sure there will be work around, there always are in pc gaming.
Nah, the recommended specs being that high just screams, unoptimized catastrophe.

Foppe posted...
What happened with every game having an army of modders making it better?
That will absolutely happen if the devs don't fix it. But that shouldn't need to happen with a high profile game

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Foppe
12/19/22 9:23:26 AM
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...high profile games doesnt deserve mods and becoming better?

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voldothegr8
12/19/22 9:26:36 AM
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Foppe posted...
...high profile games doesnt deserve mods and becoming better?
He's saying high profile game devs shouldn't need the community to optimize their games. I think you're confusing optimization with enhancement.

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NeonTentacles
12/19/22 9:34:01 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
that's fucking ridiculous


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Jagr_68
12/19/22 9:44:34 AM
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OudeGeuze posted...
Shitty devs is not an argument against PC gaming, its an argument that the devs can't do their job properly

But thiis has been happening for over 25 years now. No PC game in EXISTENCE has ever launched in a "perfect" state which is why we had entire file hosting websites dedicated to free modding whether it was for graphics editing or just fixing technical issues.

PC gamers today are just ultra spoiled and upset that games aren't developed from PC architecture like they used to anymore but this has typically always been the case anyway for PC games. We're also entering a new era of video games where all platforms are really starting to coexist with each other, therefore there's going to be growing pains along the way as developers engineer their titles in reverse now. If trash like Sonic Frontiers can be fixed by modders in a single week, then there's nothing to complain about but again it's always been this way.

btw this overemphasis on expensive graphics cards has more or less devolved the platform expectations to all time worsts on par with the console wars toxicity imo, but whatever that's just what AMD and Nvidia wants in the end.


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ZevLoveDOOM
12/19/22 9:46:07 AM
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why this much memory tho? most games dont even consume 16gb let alone 32gb...
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Foppe
12/19/22 9:47:05 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

...recommending 32 GB RAM means that the game doesnt work at launch?

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Fony
12/19/22 9:49:43 AM
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Recommended specs do not mean much. This game will either run well or like shit due to the efforts of the devs. The recen DOOM PC games take all the RAM and VRAM and PCi Express bandwidth your PC can muster, they play fluidly on all computers, consoles and scale well to other devices like Switch and Steam Deck.

And of course you guys listen to things Sony says seriously, the same Sony that said their consoles can launch nuclear missles and simulate reality.

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ZevLoveDOOM
12/19/22 9:52:28 AM
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Fony posted...
And of course you guys listen to things Sony says seriously, the same Sony that said their consoles can launch nuclear missles and simulate reality.

dammit Sony, you said i could make avocado toast and fry chicken wings with my PS4! lying bastards!!
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Ratchetrockon
12/19/22 9:53:31 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
dammit Sony, you said i could make avocado toast and fry chicken wings with my PS4! lying bastards!!

you need to get the KFC console for that

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Giant_Aspirin
12/19/22 9:55:15 AM
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OudeGeuze posted...
Shitty devs is not an argument against PC gaming, its an argument that the devs can't do their job properly

and bad code can always be patched, either by the devs or the mod community.

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Jagr_68
12/19/22 9:56:42 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
why this much memory tho? most games dont even consume 16gb let alone 32gb...

I'm guessing 32GB is merely a rec for when the game is at its most intense, so you have graphics rendering (RTX possible) + heavy RNG level loading + sound quality + particle and light processing + physics + input latency and stable high frame rate (60-120fps benchmark) all running simultaneously.

Most of the game isn't gonna require that much memory but for those encounters it makes some sense to me anyway. No excuse at that point for horrible optimization tho.

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Giant_Aspirin
12/19/22 9:56:51 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
No PC game in EXISTENCE has ever launched in a "perfect" state

*No video game

my man over here acting like console games dont launch with bugs

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daftpunk_mk5
12/19/22 9:57:39 AM
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Good.
It's trivial to go from 16 to 32gb on a decent gaming pc. Hopefully more games follow this trend so companies stop cheaping out on ram.

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Makeveli_lives
12/19/22 9:58:13 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
I'm guessing 32GB is merely a rec for when the game is at its most intense, so you have graphics rendering (RTX possible) + heavy RNG level loading + sound quality + particle and light processing + physics + input latency and stable high frame rate (60-120fps benchmark) all running simultaneously.

Most of the game isn't gonna require that much memory but for those encounters it makes some sense to me anyway. No excuse at that point for horrible optimization tho.
But pc gamers want everything at max settings so theyll complain about how much effort it takes to hit that regardless.

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VampireCoyote
12/19/22 10:00:17 AM
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That game routinely has a crazy amount of things and particles happening all over the place

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Jagr_68
12/19/22 10:00:22 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
*No video game

my man over here acting like console games dont launch with bugs

Irrelevant because we're talking about PC which is the most convenient platform to tackle troubleshooting.

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Ratchetrockon
12/19/22 10:03:13 AM
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I will admit that my fave button mashing pc game is dmc 3 ubisoft port which is a horrible port but mods make it the definitive version of dmc 3.
Not even the hd collection port compares because it lacks the inertia mod and it also has some extra amount of input lag for whatever reason.

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Fony
12/19/22 10:06:04 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
No PC game in EXISTENCE has ever launched in a "perfect" state

Strange Brigade. It runs so perfectly that it even shows you how Intel's defective Arc graphics cards were supposed to perform, on par with a RTX 3070 and RX 6800..

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daftpunk_mk5
12/19/22 6:30:20 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
But thiis has been happening for over 25 years now. No PC game in EXISTENCE has ever launched in a "perfect" state which is why we had entire file hosting websites dedicated to free modding whether it was for graphics editing or just fixing technical issues.

PC gamers today are just ultra spoiled and upset that games aren't developed from PC architecture like they used to anymore but this has typically always been the case anyway for PC games. We're also entering a new era of video games where all platforms are really starting to coexist with each other, therefore there's going to be growing pains along the way as developers engineer their titles in reverse now. If trash like Sonic Frontiers can be fixed by modders in a single week, then there's nothing to complain about but again it's always been this way.

btw this overemphasis on expensive graphics cards has more or less devolved the platform expectations to all time worsts on par with the console wars toxicity imo, but whatever that's just what AMD and Nvidia wants in the end.

Depends how you define "perfect" but before Steam existed a lot of games really didnt have any routine updates.

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archedsoul
12/19/22 6:32:20 PM
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That's half my RAM.

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InTheEyesOfFire
12/19/22 6:47:00 PM
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Im still running 8 gigs. God I need to upgrade. May as well get a new system at this point.

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uHasNeckHairXFD
12/19/22 6:59:59 PM
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CalosiaTana posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/1/AAY5SRAAEAYJ.jpg

BearlyWilling posted...
more unoptimized ports for the mAsTeR rACe

Jagr_68 posted...
But PC master race, possibilities endless, etc.
Bear in mind that a crap port on PC is just us getting what the console users got. We're supposed to get arbitrary framerates/resolution, m+kb controls, mod support etc. etc. Very very rare for the PC version to actually be worse.

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