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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:05:43 PM #401: |
Chaeix posted... Hi this is almost definitely a dumb question but does a scum flavour cop even make sense in this particular kind of setup, given the flavour? Scum Flavour Cop seems kind of pointless. Town Flavour Cop would make more sense. Also, Ben didn't claim Flavour Cop, just to be clear. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 12/12/22 7:06:36 PM #402: |
##Unvote: ##Vote: Isquen I implore people to go back and reread Isquen's claim because it didn't take long for me to look back at it and think he sounded full of it. --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:06:49 PM #403: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... Scum Flavour Cop seems kind of pointless. Town Flavour Cop would make more sense.Would be a town confirmable role for scum but it isn't a flavor cop. It's a ROLEcop. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 12/12/22 7:06:55 PM #404: |
Ben is claiming he specifically got role not flavor --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 12/12/22 7:08:52 PM #405: |
Oh yeah, right. Arsonist is not a flavour, duh. egg on my face a second time --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/12/22 7:09:08 PM #406: |
Question anyone think Isquen actually tried to counter Scare for some weird reason? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 12/12/22 7:09:48 PM #407: |
Do you think Ben and Isquen can coexist as town, Han? Chaeix posted... Hi this is almost definitely a dumb question but does a scum flavour cop even make sense in this particular kind of setup, given the flavour? It wouldn't be as strong but I have seen it used here before recently as a day action, although I think same role had a more useful night action. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 12/12/22 7:10:04 PM #408: |
i've been thinking it over a bit and I have my reservations after last game but I can't find the real angle here with the information I have now. Last game when I was scum with Ben, he built a whole strategy around sacrificing himself to secure the endgame (which we don't talk about...) that didn't link him to the rest of us. So it's definitely worth considering that potential option that Ben is just sacrificing himself in a 1 for 1 for either a town role or a scary independent and his play somehow absolves or misdirects from the rest of his teammates. But if so, it's very puzzling why he would do this on day 1. there's so much unknown information about the composition of the game and there's no way the scum team can see the end game from this game state. it feels both unlikely and unnecessary to sacrifice himself this way unless they're just THAT afraid of Isquen's role and are somehow helpless to do anything about it at night. i mean perhaps it's potentially effective specifically because it's unpredictable like that, but I don't particularly feel a strong sense of danger from going Isquen D1 -> Ben D2 if he were lying. --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leafeon13N 12/12/22 7:11:12 PM #409: |
Sultan ignored me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/12/22 7:11:54 PM #410: |
Leafeon13N posted... Sultan ignored me. You asked me a question? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:13:00 PM #412: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... Question anyone think Isquen actually tried to counter Scare for some weird reason?Let's just say that Scare is town... Isquen also could be town. He could also be "arsonist" though I doubt it based on what Isquen explained. Ben could also be Day Rolecop. But, Ben's play screams scum here regardless of all of this. He won't answer any details on why he scanned who he did, when he did, what his flavor his, what his actual role (i think), and he could have also same-timed and didn't. He had problematic posts regarding Suprak and a clear caught in contradiction regarding it. Like, I'm about to get into campaign mode on this and start getting obnoxious on this if I have to in order to point out exactly what is problematic here. BEN could clear a lot of these questions up this very moment by just answering, but he won't. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 12/12/22 7:13:41 PM #413: |
Ben did answer why and when he scanned Isquen though --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:13:47 PM #414: |
Everything MI is saying right now is right, by the way. It's like I said - Corrik's post was about Isquen too. But let's talk facts. Fact 1 - Lopen died. Scare immediately expressed regret. Ergo, Scare (at the minimum) planned to claim the kill on Lopen. Fact 2 - Isquen was trying to push the kill onto someone else. Ergo, Isquen and Scare were not in cahoots with how this was going to play out. Fact 3 - Isquen was hinting that he had killing abilities, and KNEW this had to be a Scum kill as soon as it happened. Ergo, Isquen probably has killing abilities. I can't explain Scare making the shot as Scum. It would be intentionally being dumb to avoid suspicion. It doesn't make sense. I can explain Isquen being Scum. There are going to be more daykills if he is a SK or something, so he freaked out because someone did a daykill and it wasn't him. Not a great reason. I can explain Ben being Scum, but Isquen would have to be SILENCED for it to make sense. ctesjbuvf posted... Do you think Ben and Isquen can coexist as town, Han?Yeah. Isquen could just be an Arsonist and didn't claim his role name because, frankly, he didn't need to, and Ben got too excited. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 12/12/22 7:13:52 PM #415: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] i don't think I buy that. unless he flipped town arsonist --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:14:58 PM #416: |
TotallyNotMI posted... Ben did answer why and when he scanned Isquen thoughWhere I missed it cuz I asked him and didn't see a response. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:15:17 PM #417: |
Ehhhhh I suppose Scare and Isquen could have been in cahoots in that they would try to create this scenario where Isquen doesn't know who to blame and then Scare claims and he guts Scare. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 12/12/22 7:15:24 PM #418: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... I can explain Ben being Scum, but Isquen would have to be SILENCED for it to make sense.Not entirely true. Ben could be scum day role scanner and caught a third party arsonist. --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:15:53 PM #419: |
PunishedBen posted... Lea, I had to use my scan at least 12 hours before end of day to get it off and only Scare and Isquen were people who have claimed. I thought Scare was more believable and Isquen 's claim was so unique I thought scanning him would mean he had a unique role and make his alignment clear --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:16:53 PM #420: |
TotallyNotMI posted... Not entirely true. That one makes sense too! Here's a possibility: Scare is a Dayvig. Isquen is an Arsonist (body doesn't get revealed). Ben is a Rolecop. All are Town. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:17:11 PM #421: |
I missed that post entirely somehow. So, why are you claiming this scan at what 6pm 4 hours from deadline instead of 10am, 12 hours from deadline? OR EARLIER? --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:17:48 PM #422: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... Btw we're lynching Isquen today. Me being the best player on Board 8 is a good argument to lynch Isquen, here. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/12/22 7:17:51 PM #423: |
Isn't arsonist always a scum or 3rd party by design? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:18:21 PM #425: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... That one makes sense too!Here's a possibility. Scare is Scum Day killer. Isquen is Serial Killer Ben is Scum Rolecop trying to confirm both him and scum scare as town. I mean, is this where we are going with this? --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 12/12/22 7:18:28 PM #426: |
All right lets do this --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 12/12/22 7:18:48 PM #427: |
Corrik7 posted... I missed that post entirely somehow.He claims he was waiting to be here when isquen was but then got impatient. --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:19:41 PM #428: |
TotallyNotMI posted... He claims he was waiting to be here when isquen was but then got impatient.But he had this info no later than 10am today... and possibly whatever time since Isquen claimed. Only when he is the top lynch target 4 hours from lynch does he say anything. Isquen I think has been here at times. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:20:05 PM #429: |
Corrik7 posted... Here's a possibility. Eh, Scare as Scum Day Killer still makes zero sense. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:20:35 PM #430: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... Eh, Scare as Scum Day Killer still makes zero sense.Because he didn't kill you and feed your ego. Literally that's your reasoning. He didn't kill me or MI so HE MUST BE TOWN! --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:21:27 PM #431: |
If Scare is Scum Dayvig, then Lopen was on the fucking money and he just got silenced immediately. Otherwise, for Scare to be Scum Dayvig, it just has to be a straight-up goofy kill. And the shot was anonymous anyway. Why would Scare bother to claim it if he's Scum? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 12/12/22 7:21:34 PM #432: |
Corrik7 posted... But he had this info no later than 10am today... and possibly whatever time since Isquen claimed. Only when he is the top lynch target 4 hours from lynch does he say anything. Isquen I think has been here at times.Isquen has not been here all day and Ben claimed he submitted his scan this morning. Have you been reading this game? --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:21:54 PM #433: |
Corrik7 posted... Because he didn't kill you and feed your ego. No, it's not. Please do not lie, Corrik. It's very anti-Town. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:22:41 PM #434: |
It also kindly neglects the fact MI could be scum in your town analysis or the fact you yourself are scum with them. Like, your analysis here is questionable because it is lynchpinned on Scare ain't scum cuz he didn't do what I would do. And you have made every single judgment from it. I am looking at this from possible angles, while you are looking at it from Scare must be Town. This is Lopen levels of I picked my result now let me make it fit. What. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 12/12/22 7:22:58 PM #435: |
Did we ever ask Scare and Isquen how many shots they get? Are they both one-shot? I've been trying to reconcile this whole situation and I'm honestly kind of leaning this way at the moment: Scare - Town Isquen - 3P Ben - Scum Ben scans because he knows both Scare and Isquen aren't scum and thinks one of them is likely the 3P. He thinks it's Isquen because it's probably not Scare. Then he reveals this information because of Arsonist. In theory he gets away with this and becomes at the very least confirmed role cop, who tried to do something pro-town. One thing about Arsonist (and the double dayvig situation in general) that's been bothering me is that according to the mafia wiki, a night save on a person doesn't prevent their 'targeting' so it's an unblockable kill. Town having two possible unblockable kills on mafia (absent a BP of course) during the day strikes me as weird. --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:23:10 PM #436: |
##Unvote: JC ##Vote: Isquen Trusting the best players is the best strategy. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:23:49 PM #437: |
TotallyNotMI posted... Isquen has not been here all day and Ben claimed he submitted his scan this morning.I just woke up when I posted and just see him continually refusing to answer Lea. If I missed some shit, then fill it in as needed. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:25:05 PM #438: |
Corrik7 posted... completely illogical made up bullshit Corrik is probably Scum for this. Corrik has been good recently, and having to rely on making up arguments to try to shut stuff down is not a good look for him. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:26:32 PM #440: |
if you are town, then lynch me and lose like yinz do pretty much every other game. Literally every game is me telling you people are scum day 1, yinz ignore it, then 4 days later go... damn Corrik was right about basically everything. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/12/22 7:27:23 PM #442: |
isquen's claim isn't it kind of a dead end claim as scum? Just thinking out all senerios --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/12/22 7:27:35 PM #443: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I wish cuz I am getting kinda pissed. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:27:57 PM #444: |
Corrik7 posted... if you are town, then lynch me and lose like yinz do pretty much every other game. Literally every game is me telling you people are scum day 1, yinz ignore it, then 4 days later go... damn Corrik was right about basically everything. I wouldn't ignore you if you weren't misconstruing my arguments to try to shut me down. It's so Anti-Town, that if you are Town, we're better off without you. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 12/12/22 7:28:34 PM #445: |
another uninformed mafia question: what is yinz --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:29:02 PM #446: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... isquen's claim isn't it kind of a dead end claim as scum? Just thinking out all senerios Kind of, yeah. But it makes more sense for Isquen to make a big misplay like that. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:29:26 PM #447: |
Chaeix posted... another uninformed mafia question: It's a regional dialect from Pittsburgh. It means the same thing as "y'all". --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 12/12/22 7:29:33 PM #448: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'm afraid I don't have that ability, nor am I a Turtlez. I don't use "yinz." Also, ##unvote --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 12/12/22 7:29:43 PM #449: |
Chaeix posted... another uninformed mafia question: it's like y'all but for people from philly --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 12/12/22 7:30:12 PM #450: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... I'm afraid I don't have that ability, nor am I a Turtlez. I don't use "yinz." Scummoned --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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