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GeraldDarko 12/04/22 10:35:14 PM #1:	Should attributes make a return in Elder Scrolls 6? Attributes No attributes Should attributes make a return in Elder Scrolls 6? - Results (34 votes) Attributes 79.41% (27 votes) 27 No attributes 20.59% (7 votes) 7 Should attributes make a return in Elder Scrolls 6? --- Carpe petat <cite>GeraldDarko posted [p:969921923] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote> Should attributes make a return in Elder Scrolls 6? Attributes No attributes Vote View Results Should attributes make a return in Elder Scrolls 6? - Results (34 votes) Attributes 79.41% (27 votes) 27 No attributes 20.59% (7 votes) 7 Show Voting Form function poll_vote() { var vote_option = $("input[name='poll_vote']:checked").val(); if(!vote_option) return; $.ajax({ type: 'POST', url: '/ajax/forum_poll_vote', data: { option: vote_option, board: '400', topic: '80263471', message: '0', key: '465be5f5' }, success: function(response) { if(response.error) { alert(response.error); } else { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").html(response.html).show(); } } }); } function view_results_legacy() { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").show(); } function hide_results_legacy() { $("#poll_results").hide(); $("#poll_vote").show(); } Should attributes make a return in Elder Scrolls 6? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJKirby 12/04/22 10:38:53 PM #2:	I want my jumping around to actually matter --- Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. August 25th, 2010. <cite>SSJKirby posted [p:969922017] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>I want my jumping around to actually matter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeraldDarko 12/04/22 10:43:50 PM #3:	SSJKirby posted... I want my jumping around to actually matter Alternate paths you can only reach with acrobatics would be fun. --- Carpe petat <cite>GeraldDarko posted [p:969922137] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>SSJKirby posted... </cite><quote>I want my jumping around to actually matter</quote>Alternate paths you can only reach with acrobatics would be fun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seaman_Prime 12/04/22 10:45:38 PM #4:	Give us back speed stat, i wanna move at 10x speed when high on skooma <cite>Seaman_Prime posted [p:969922178] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>Give us back speed stat, i wanna move at 10x speed when high on skooma</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 12/04/22 10:47:14 PM #5:	Seaman_Prime posted... Give us back speed stat, i wanna move at 10x speed when high on skooma Or just in general. None of this "legendary level sneak and one handed on an immortal npc to keep getting level ups to boost your stamina" bullshit. -_- --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:969922218] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>Seaman_Prime posted... </cite><quote>Give us back speed stat, i wanna move at 10x speed when high on skooma</quote>Or just in general. None of this "legendary level sneak and one handed on an immortal npc to keep getting level ups to boost your stamina" bullshit. -_-</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Purple_Cheetah 12/04/22 10:48:25 PM #6:	I'd like to see them, but maybe tweaked. Nothing like leveling up to reach harder enemies, because you did jumping jacks in town for 8 hours. Now you're ready to fight the final boss. Like they should exist, but the leveling implementation is fickle. <cite>Purple_Cheetah posted [p:969922250] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>I'd like to see them, but maybe tweaked. Nothing like leveling up to reach harder enemies, because you did jumping jacks in town for 8 hours. Now you're ready to fight the final boss.Like they should exist, but the leveling implementation is fickle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 12/04/22 10:48:30 PM #7:	Attributes don't improve the game. You can have acrobatics and athletics as skills without governing attributes, which historically just complicated leveling. Leveling efficiently in TES games with attributes ends up counter intuitive and rewards metagaming. Oblivion actively punished a player not using a goddamn regimen for leveling --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:969922253] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>Attributes don't improve the game. You can have acrobatics and athletics as skills without governing attributes, which historically just complicated leveling.Leveling efficiently in TES games with attributes ends up counter intuitive and rewards metagaming. Oblivion actively punished a player not using a goddamn regimen for leveling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smiffwilm 12/04/22 11:45:13 PM #8:	Sure. However, I'd prefer a set stat growth to what Oblivion tried to do. In fact, there should be two things that influence your character's innate stats upon leveling up: Their Race and Class. Have special 1-time use books/trainers/food/drink items to find throughout the world to give you permanent stat raises as well. Maybe have you select one stat of your own choice at level up so not every character feels the same? (Or every 2nd or 5th level up instead if that seems too op?) I'd still think it should have a Skyrim Skill/Perk leveling system for skills as well. (With more skills than Skyrim, both returning and new ones hopefully.) You can still have Major skills be determined by your Class, with a slight experience boost to them compared to your Minor ones. Race still determines the skill's starting point. I feel stats should have some sort of influence on them as well but I can't really think of anything meaningful at the moment. --- My Mario Maker 2 ID is 6RG-5XK-JCG <cite>Smiffwilm posted [p:969923133] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>Sure. However, I'd prefer a set stat growth to what Oblivion tried to do.In fact, there should be two things that influence your character's innate stats upon leveling up: Their Race and Class. Have special 1-time use books/trainers/food/drink items to find throughout the world to give you permanent stat raises as well. Maybe have you select one stat of your own choice at level up so not every character feels the same? (Or every 2nd or 5th level up instead if that seems too op?)I'd still think it should have a Skyrim Skill/Perk leveling system for skills as well. (With more skills than Skyrim, both returning and new ones hopefully.) You can still have Major skills be determined by your Class, with a slight experience boost to them compared to your Minor ones. Race still determines the skill's starting point. I feel stats should have some sort of influence on them as well but I can't really think of anything meaningful at the moment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pfh1001 12/04/22 11:54:55 PM #9:	Skyrim's dumbing down of RPG mechanics sucked-- and that it followed into FO4 also sucked. <cite>pfh1001 posted [p:969923298] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>Skyrim's dumbing down of RPG mechanics sucked-- and that it followed into FO4 also sucked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 12/04/22 11:57:39 PM #10:	I would like Elder Scrolls to be an RPG again, yes. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:969923339] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>I would like Elder Scrolls to be an RPG again, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 12/05/22 12:06:00 AM #11:	SSJKirby posted... I want my jumping around to actually matter This was my first thought, haha. My Khajiit better be able to jump to a third-story balcony in a single pounce. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:969923475] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>SSJKirby posted... </cite><quote>I want my jumping around to actually matter</quote>This was my first thought, haha. My Khajiit better be able to jump to a third-story balcony in a single pounce.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MJOLNRVII 12/05/22 12:10:02 AM #12:	pfh1001 posted... Skyrim's dumbing down of RPG mechanics sucked-- and that it followed into FO4 also sucked. Ivynn posted... I would like Elder Scrolls to be an RPG again, yes. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/WBp3VHL.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/aGc8opg.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/tQBwJ35.gif <cite>MJOLNRVII posted [p:969923529] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>pfh1001 posted... </cite><quote>Skyrim's dumbing down of RPG mechanics sucked-- and that it followed into FO4 also sucked.</quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>I would like Elder Scrolls to be an RPG again, yes.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeraldDarko 12/05/22 9:40:05 AM #13:	Bump --- Carpe petat <cite>GeraldDarko posted [p:969929342] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 12/05/22 11:39:32 AM #14:	As long as they ditch the arbitrary requirements to get +5 per level over +1 then it should be fine. Having to juggle things like how many arrows you fire in a week to get high stats was stupid. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:969931493] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>As long as they ditch the arbitrary requirements to get +5 per level over +1 then it should be fine. Having to juggle things like how many arrows you fire in a week to get high stats was stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 12/05/22 3:29:00 PM #15:	Ivynn posted... I would like Elder Scrolls to be an RPG again, yes. <cite>garan posted [p:969936553] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted...</cite><quote>I would like Elder Scrolls to be an RPG again, yes.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 12/05/22 4:18:16 PM #16:	Morrowind / Oblivion's approach to attributes and leveling is good in theory, but a counter-intuitive micromanaging hell in practice. I'd be lying if I said I missed them in Skyrim. Redundancy is a big issue here - why bring Attributes back if they can be just as effectively represented by Skills / the main 3 stats (health / magicka / stamina)? Endurance, Intelligence, and Strength's functions are largely rendered moot by simply replacing them with direct magicka / stamina / health increases. Personality is damn-near useless to begin with, and better represented by the Speech / Barter skill anyway (granted a high Personality can render enemies non-hostile in Oblivion at least, but said Attribute has to be absurdly high to affect humanoids, undead, and daedra; this is something that can only be achieved with limited, borderline-exploitative spellcrafting, which is so esoteric that most people probably didn't even know it was possible). And lolololol the Luck stat. Which leaves Willpower, Agility, and Speed. Willpower's a bit of an odd duck - it bizarrely governs about three more things than it ought to in Morrowind, yet only dictates magic regen in Oblivion. Agility and Speed's absence could largely be remedied by the return of a dedicated Athletics and Acrobatics skill trees. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read https://imgur.com/1WshTZu - by DB_Insider https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:969937660] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>Morrowind / Oblivion's approach to attributes and leveling is good in theory, but a counter-intuitive micromanaging hell in practice. I'd be lying if I said I missed them in Skyrim.Redundancy is a big issue here - why bring Attributes back if they can be just as effectively represented by Skills / the main 3 stats (health / magicka / stamina)? Endurance, Intelligence, and Strength's functions are largely rendered moot by simply replacing them with direct magicka / stamina / health increases. Personality is damn-near useless to begin with, and better represented by the Speech / Barter skill anyway (granted a high Personality can render enemies non-hostile in Oblivion at least, but said Attribute has to be absurdly high to affect humanoids, undead, and daedra; this is something that can only be achieved with limited, borderline-exploitative spellcrafting, which is so esoteric that most people probably didn't even know it was possible). And lolololol the Luck stat.Which leaves Willpower, Agility, and Speed. Willpower's a bit of an odd duck - it bizarrely governs about three more things than it ought to in Morrowind, yet only dictates magic regen in Oblivion. Agility and Speed's absence could largely be remedied by the return of a dedicated Athletics and Acrobatics skill trees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 12/05/22 4:20:05 PM #17:	masterpug53 posted... Morrowind / Oblivion's approach to attributes and leveling is good in theory, but a counter-intuitive micromanaging hell in practice. I'd be lying if I said I missed them in Skyrim. Redundancy is a big issue here - why bring Attributes back if they can be just as effectively represented by Skills / the main 3 stats (health / magicka / stamina)? Endurance, Intelligence, and Strength's functions are largely rendered moot by simply replacing them with direct magicka / stamina / health increases. Personality is damn-near useless to begin with, and better represented by the Speech / Barter skill anyway (granted a high Personality can render enemies non-hostile in Oblivion at least, but said Attribute has to be absurdly high to affect humanoids, undead, and daedra; this is something that can only be achieved with limited, borderline-exploitative spellcrafting, which is so esoteric that most people probably didn't even know it was possible). And lolololol the Luck stat. Which leaves Willpower, Agility, and Speed. Willpower's a bit of an odd duck - it bizarrely governs about three more things than it ought to in Morrowind, yet only dictates magic regen in Oblivion. Agility and Speed's absence could largely be remedied by the return of a dedicated Athletics and Acrobatics skill trees. Yeah Oblivion's leveling system was straight garbage and I don't see why anyone would want that back <cite>Axiom posted [p:969937692] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted... </cite><quote>Morrowind / Oblivion's approach to attributes and leveling is good in theory, but a counter-intuitive micromanaging hell in practice. I'd be lying if I said I missed them in Skyrim.Redundancy is a big issue here - why bring Attributes back if they can be just as effectively represented by Skills / the main 3 stats (health / magicka / stamina)? Endurance, Intelligence, and Strength's functions are largely rendered moot by simply replacing them with direct magicka / stamina / health increases. Personality is damn-near useless to begin with, and better represented by the Speech / Barter skill anyway (granted a high Personality can render enemies non-hostile in Oblivion at least, but said Attribute has to be absurdly high to affect humanoids, undead, and daedra; this is something that can only be achieved with limited, borderline-exploitative spellcrafting, which is so esoteric that most people probably didn't even know it was possible). And lolololol the Luck stat.Which leaves Willpower, Agility, and Speed. Willpower's a bit of an odd duck - it bizarrely governs about three more things than it ought to in Morrowind, yet only dictates magic regen in Oblivion. Agility and Speed's absence could largely be remedied by the return of a dedicated Athletics and Acrobatics skill trees.</quote>Yeah Oblivion's leveling system was straight garbage and I don't see why anyone would want that back</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeraldDarko 12/05/22 8:18:02 PM #18:	Axiom posted... Yeah Oblivion's leveling system was straight garbage and I don't see why anyone would want that back You don't have to do it like Oblivion --- Carpe petat <cite>GeraldDarko posted [p:969943160] in Should att... [t:80263471]...</cite> <quote>Axiom posted... </cite><quote>Yeah Oblivion's leveling system was straight garbage and I don't see why anyone would want that back</quote>You don't have to do it like Oblivion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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