Board 8 > Fire Emblem Topic 3: Sigurd for Smash

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 2:11:31 AM
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https://twitter.com/SerenesForest?s=09

https://twitter.com/FireEmblemJP?s=09

New Engage trailer for anyone whos missed it.

https://youtu.be/vAdUlQN8MNg

Colonel, what on earth is that ability?"

"That's Sigurd's Pursuit, Snake. With it, he can attack his enemies, and then proceed to attack once more"

"Attack once more? Colonel, how could a man achieve such a thing?! "

"We're only now seeing the results of genetic engineering by foreign governments, Snake"

"And that strange vehicle, is that also the result of a blacksite project?"

"...That's a horse, Snake."

"Hnnn..."


End of the last one snuck up on me! Seems more sensible for this to just be an FE topic at this point, though obviously Ill continue as normal.

Current Ranking:
1. Geneology of the Holy War
2. Three Houses
3. Thracia 776
4. Sacred Stones
5. New Mystery of the Emblem
6. Shadow Dragon
7. Echoes
8. Binding Blade

I continue to remove games from the list that I realized I dont remember at all, lol. Its safe to say weve finished with that.since 3 Houses is the only game on here anymore not played for these topics.

Currently game:

Path of Radiance

Remaining games:

Radiant Dawn*
The Blazing Blade*
Awakening*
Fates*
TearRing Saga
Berwick Saga
Vestaria Saga
Dark Deity

*Have played before.

And then heres this video again because I watch it daily.

https://youtu.be/gwx0yugaAGw

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 2:17:28 AM
#2:


Our Path of Radiance journey continues.

After the last several games I've played, very surprised that resistance is a stat that goes up sometimes.

Blessed Boyd has already hit level 16 before starting chapter 11 and has received 2 levelups with a full stat sweep. This is my son.

In a stark contrast to my earlier comments about indecisiveness, I saw level 2 Mist and said fuck that, pumped her up to 10, and gave her that master seal I just got. HORSE. Second coming of best girl L'Arachel incoming.

Also said screw it and hit Nephenee up to 13. I already sacrificed using Mia dammit.

Knives...aren't actually a weapon type? I can't forge a better one for Volke, and there's no rank there....ooof.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 3:31:29 AM
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Time sensitive chapter, think I crushed it. I finished the same turn the Black Knight showed up.

I don't think there's any way to both recruit Zihark and not kill the militia, unless it's like...use an untransformed Laguz to do it? Or recruit him on the same turn you seize.

Keiren is gonna need some leveling for sure.

Nephenee tore it UP with just a stock Iron Lance.

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KamikazePotato
11/18/22 3:35:24 AM
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You'll never see this interaction playing the game normally, so here's what happens if Ike fights the Black Knight on that stage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG3HdmIE-Jk

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 3:38:10 AM
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I love that.

You'd have to be a total idiot to do that so Ike screams like an idiot.

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KamikazePotato
11/18/22 3:41:48 AM
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Actually that interaction that 99% of players will avoid has a lot of edge cases.

If you fight BK and he misses:
Black Knight: ...Oh? You avoided my blow. Will you be so lucky next time?
Ike: !!

If you fight BK, survive, and then clear the stage:
Mist: Ike, you stupid fool! Fighting a knight as strong as that...You idiot! I was...so scared...
Ike: Im sorry, Mist...
Mist: Who cares...
Ike: You were really frightened...Im sorry. I truly am...
Mist: All right...

If you use cheats to kill BK, the game doesn't bother to account for it though.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 3:44:35 AM
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BTW, mobility is great for Valkyrie Mist, but I have her a + 5 Mt Iron Sword and...yeah that's getting nowhere lol. I'm assuming there's got to be a magic sword you can get later I should be building rank towards, because otherwise I don't know why you'd even bother.

KamikazePotato posted...
Ike: Im sorry, Mist...
Mist: Who cares...

Based

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 3:47:08 AM
#8:


Is there another Healer I should be saving a Master Seal for, or is it safe to throw this second one on Rhys once he hits 10?

I know you only get like 3 or something in the whole game since it has auto promote.

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KamikazePotato
11/18/22 3:47:48 AM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
BTW, mobility is great for Valkyrie Mist, but I have her a + 5 Mt Iron Sword and...yeah that's getting nowhere lol. I'm assuming there's got to be a magic sword you can get later I should be building rank towards, because otherwise I don't know why you'd even bother.
You'd think that, wouldn't you?

Shoutout to the Sage promote in Path of Radiance, which gives your mages the option to use either Knives or Staves, player's choice, without addressing their pitiful Strength stat whatsoever.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 3:50:42 AM
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....Why...what?

Why would you EVER??

Unless there's some secret super niche knife you can get later....

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KamikazePotato
11/18/22 3:52:01 AM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
....Why...what?

Why would you EVER??

Unless there's some secret super niche knife you can get later....
All I'll say is that younger me got baited hard.

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Mewtwo59
11/18/22 5:03:15 AM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
BTW, mobility is great for Valkyrie Mist, but I have her a + 5 Mt Iron Sword and...yeah that's getting nowhere lol. I'm assuming there's got to be a magic sword you can get later I should be building rank towards, because otherwise I don't know why you'd even bother.

I wouldn't even bother with raising her sword rank and just feed her the arms scrolls you get. It's not like anyone else really needs them with how fast you can get WEXP in this game.

KamikazePotato posted...
You'd think that, wouldn't you?

Shoutout to the Sage promote in Path of Radiance, which gives your mages the option to use either Knives or Staves, player's choice, without addressing their pitiful Strength stat whatsoever.

Shoutouts to the prepromoted Sages who join with knives instead of staves. I guess they saw how OP Pent and Saleh were and thought these Sages needed to be nerfed somehow.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 10:45:49 AM
#13:


New drops. Finally getting some female Alear in cutscenes.

https://twitter.com/SerenesForest/status/1593546834311528448?s=19

https://twitter.com/SerenesForest/status/1593546985407016960?s=19

https://twitter.com/SerenesForest/status/1593547575235428352?s=19

https://twitter.com/SerenesForest/status/1593548007328432128?s=19


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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 10:47:39 AM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
I wouldn't even bother with raising her sword rank and just feed her the arms scrolls you get. It's not like anyone else really needs them with how fast you can get WEXP in this game.

Shoutouts to the prepromoted Sages who join with knives instead of staves. I guess they saw how OP Pent and Saleh were and thought these Sages needed to be nerfed somehow.


Does this game use even level growth between weapon ranks or does it take more with each level? May as well take potshots to C at least on turns I don't need to heal.

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Kenri
11/18/22 11:09:27 AM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Shoutouts to the prepromoted Sages who join with knives instead of staves. I guess they saw how OP Pent and Saleh were and thought these Sages needed to be nerfed somehow.
https://i.redd.it/k1r1cbclzyz91.jpg

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 12:56:18 PM
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A level 1 Thief with almost no attack whose ability is to gain less EXP.

Oh.

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MysteriousStan
11/18/22 1:00:55 PM
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I used Sothe for data transfer purposes once and it was fine I guess but I mean...not worth it at all.
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Mewtwo59
11/18/22 1:52:48 PM
#18:


Sothe's bases in Radiant Dawn are around his level 20 averages in Path of Radiance, so it's not even worth training him.

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Mewtwo59
11/18/22 1:56:00 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Does this game use even level growth between weapon ranks or does it take more with each level? May as well take potshots to C at least on turns I don't need to heal.

It takes more with each level, but a lot of weapons give 2 wexp per use. Though if Mist is doubling with an iron sword but not with a steel sword, there's no functional difference.

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tcaz2
11/18/22 2:08:45 PM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Sothe's bases in Radiant Dawn are around his level 20 averages in Path of Radiance, so it's not even worth training him.
In fact, it can even be WORSE to train him if you're going to transfer, because unlike every other unit from PoR when you transfer, Sothe ports all of his stats over instead of just getting a bonus for caps. So if Sothe gets growth screwed for whatever reason (as unlikely as that may be), you actually can end up with a *worse* Sothe in Radiant Dawn.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 3:44:45 PM
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Bird Up.

That was...an odd map. Feels like I could have fielded like 5 units, really no way to control the flow. Birds sure do have some fucking speed.

I definitely see why Soren needs some pumping up, he couldn't 2 rounds them with ElWind.

Move over Shinon and Soren, Racistmus Prime has arrived.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/2/AAeolZAAD5XQ.jpg

Rad.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 3:58:40 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/3/AAeolZAAD5Xb.jpg

Definitely maxing out this one lol.

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MysteriousStan
11/18/22 4:00:19 PM
#23:


Kieran is amazing, yes.
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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 6:41:10 PM
#24:


This bitch died on the first enemy phase, hello??

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/8/AAeolZAAD5Zi.jpg

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KamikazePotato
11/18/22 6:42:01 PM
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That map on Hard mode is obscenely difficult.

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tcaz2
11/18/22 6:52:36 PM
#26:


Yeah that's one of the hardest maps in the game probably.

The easiest way to make sure she doesn't die is just shove Ike in range to recruit her turn 1
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MalcolmMasher
11/18/22 7:07:01 PM
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You can indeed stealth the prison rescue in FE9, and you get a big sack of BEXP if you do. But "stealth mission" and "Fire Emblem" do not go together. I'm impressed that the game designers made the idea workable, and I am also glad that they let you skip it and turn the chapter into a fight with no real consequence (combat EXP compensates for the lost BEXP).

Now if only Revelation's stealth chapter did the same...

Time sensitive chapter, think I crushed it. I finished the same turn the Black Knight showed up.

If I recall correctly, the BK is progress based and not turn based. He shows up the turn after you aggro the boss (by moving into his range) or some such.

Does this game use even level growth between weapon ranks or does it take more with each level?

The latter. I want to say FE9 uses the same rank breakpoints as the GBA games.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 7:09:30 PM
#28:


tcaz2 posted...
Yeah that's one of the hardest maps in the game probably.

The easiest way to make sure she doesn't die is just shove Ike in range to recruit her turn 1

I had to save for a bit until later, but I ended up protecting her with Lethe.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 9:27:47 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/2/AAeolZAAD5ca.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/3/AAeolZAAD5cb.jpg

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 9:28:12 PM
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Hard map huh? <_<

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/5/AAeolZAAD5cd.jpg

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Mewtwo59
11/18/22 10:27:54 PM
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To be fair, this game becomes a joke once Jill and Marcia get going, so that is one of the harder maps by virtue of the fact that Jill isn't a goddess of death yet.

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KamikazePotato
11/18/22 10:55:28 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Hard map huh? <_<
Note that we specified Hard mode! The difference between PoR Normal and PoR Hard is crazy.

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tcaz2
11/18/22 10:59:07 PM
#33:


Eh I don't know that I'd say it's crazy different. I think PoR Hard mode is really easy, on par with like Eliwood Hard Mode for FE7 in that its barely a Hard Mode at all.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 11:29:14 PM
#34:


Makalov may be one of the most unappealing units I've ever seen.

Underleveled. Mediocre stats. Standard growths. A class I already have in plentiful quantity with more appealing units. Lame character design. Terrible personality. A lame skill. No memeworthy stats.

What a fucking nobody.

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Mewtwo59
11/18/22 11:31:27 PM
#35:


Not to mention, if you want a mounted unit that's stuck with a bad weapon type, Astrid just joined and she's much easier to BEXP up to a usable level because of Paragon.

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tcaz2
11/18/22 11:33:38 PM
#36:


Makalov is a huge loser but for I kind of like him being a huge loser.

I used him in an ironman run once and he turned out pretty good.
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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 11:37:20 PM
#37:


Astrid has been fucking killing it, though I did give her a maxed Mt Steel Bow. I realized she also got a buff to her Bexp and went all out. I'm also pretty sure her levelups have been pretty great.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/6/AAeolZAAD5dk.jpg

The story has been so good. Notably better than the same old dark dragon shit we get so much.

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KamikazePotato
11/18/22 11:39:39 PM
#38:


Astrid is definitely strong, and Makalov is definitely not.

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MysteriousStan
11/18/22 11:39:49 PM
#39:


Paladin is just such a good class in PoR that even Makalov is decent if you use him.
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tcaz2
11/18/22 11:39:55 PM
#40:


You should give the knight ward Astrid comes with to any knight character you use BEXP on (or are just going to use, generally) because it increases Speed growth by 30% when equipped.
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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 11:42:31 PM
#41:


tcaz2 posted...
You should give the knight ward Astrid comes with to any knight character you use BEXP on (or are just going to use, generally) because it increases Speed growth by 30% when equipped.

....You'd think it would say that.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/0/0/AAeolZAAD5do.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/0/1/AAeolZAAD5dp.jpg

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Kenri
11/18/22 11:52:24 PM
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Makalov is like if someone asked "what if we made Matthis even less appealing?" and I kinda love him for it

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tcaz2
11/18/22 11:54:01 PM
#43:


Marcia is probably in my top 5 FE girls ever

Top 10 at least for sure. Oh crackers!
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SSBM_Guy
11/18/22 11:55:01 PM
#44:


Makalov is so bad that he's good. Definitely put him above the whatever characters in the series.

Marcia's great too. Too bad she never turns out well for me.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/18/22 11:57:37 PM
#45:


Not sure I get what they're logic was for forging costs.

Dropping weight is incredible important for some characters but it costs almost nothing.

Why does increasing weight and lowering damage, crit, or hit cost money instead of taking it away?

Why is it cheaper to bump up stats the better the weapon is? It costs almost nothing to pump up a steel weapon, but basic bitch times can break your bank at just +2 mt.

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tcaz2
11/19/22 1:27:07 AM
#46:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Why does increasing weight and lowering damage, crit, or hit cost money instead of taking it away?
It's so that there is never a reason for you to intentionally downgrade a weapon to save money. Forging is suppose to explicitly cost money to customize a weapon, basically. There is actually a point to increasing weight, though, as it can make some characters only hit a single time instead of doubling which can be preferable in some cases (setting up kills, turtling harder enemies that threaten your front liners so they don't kill themselves by killing too many enemies, etc).

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UshiromiyaEva
11/19/22 4:26:17 AM
#47:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/0/1/AAeolZAAD5fN.jpg

Um

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Kenri
11/19/22 10:01:51 AM
#48:


Pictured: the reason I've never brought Mia or Zihark with me all the way to end game

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tcaz2
11/19/22 10:09:15 AM
#49:


Yeah Stefan is super busted.
He doesn't even have bad growth rates either.
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UshiromiyaEva
11/19/22 10:49:54 AM
#50:


I mean I don't even have to sacrifice a slot for him because it looks like I could never use this guy and still take him into the endgame.

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