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Hard_Light 11/10/22 2:58:27 PM #1: |
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/disco-elysium-studio-zaum-confirms-former-employees-were-fired-for-misconduct
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DirtBasedSoap 11/10/22 2:59:46 PM #2: |
dasha (louis cks gf lmao) was in that --- *uncontrollable screaming* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 11/10/22 3:04:45 PM #3: |
you might also know her as the ex-fianc of the future of center-left late night comedy, Adam Friedland --- Irl best friend of Nick Mullen, producer of the Adam Friedland Show ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 11/10/22 3:05:31 PM #4: |
Hard_Light posted... Update, Nov 9: As we were publishing this report, former employees Aleksander Rostov and Robert Kurvitz shared a post that claimed the majority stake in Zaum Studio O, the entity that owns the Disco Elysium IP, was obtained fraudulently.so why aren't you posting an article with the direct counterclaims to all this? what you posted accounts to what ZA/UM heads said what happened. it's not even new news, it's literally just what they alleged before, except now gamesindustry.biz (and noone else) is supporting ZA/UM heads with anonymous sources https://medium.com/@artofrostov/to-fans-of-disco-elysium-concerning-the-situation-at-za-um-3e6bc46ea9c kurvitz and rostov allege fraud, which is in line with their previous characterization of the investors. and also uh, the investors' legal histories involving fraud --- http://i.imgur.com/LabbRyN.jpg raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hard_Light 11/10/22 3:08:42 PM #5: |
because they can lie and the studio can't so their rebuttal is irrelevant all i did was copy the article and paste it, they have an update at the bottom about that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 11/10/22 3:09:39 PM #6: |
why do you think studio heads can't tell lies but the original creators can all you did was report on one side of a he-said-she-said and assume it's the truth --- http://i.imgur.com/LabbRyN.jpg raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hard_Light 11/10/22 3:13:50 PM #7: |
because if they lie they can be sued for lying since it's illegal pretty much everywhere to lie about company matters when you have shareholders the fired people can lie because they don't have any company or shareholders beholden to them, and as such, have a very different set of laws apply to them if they're caught lying or maybe it's a lawless no mans land in estonia idfk but typically a company faces very real consequences for lying that regular people don't but yes, i'm very much beholden to the company usually tells the truth about these things because they literally have nothing to gain by lying about it and a lot to lose if lied and even if they aren't lying, they were still fired fairly ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 11/10/22 3:22:32 PM #8: |
Hard_Light posted... because if they lie they can be sued for lying since it's illegal pretty much everywhere to lie about company matters when you have shareholdersand the original owners have stated that they're suing Hard_Light posted... or maybe it's a lawless no mans land in estonia idfk but typically a company faces very real consequences for lying that regular people don'tdid you miss the part where one of the investors was already accused of investment fraud? they aren't exactly scared to break laws Hard_Light posted... and even if they aren't lying, they were still fired fairlynot if the counterclaim is true. you can't use company funds to buy a personal majority stake in a company, then fire people who are suspicious of where the money came from "We believe the money used by Ttreke O to buy the majority stake was taken illegally from Zaum Studio O itself, money that belonged to the studio and all shareholders but was used for the benefit of one." also I'm not even sure if it's a counterclaim. from what everything i'm looking at, the creators' post alleging investment fraud went up slightly earlier than the company calling them delusional --- http://i.imgur.com/LabbRyN.jpg raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 11/10/22 3:29:35 PM #9: |
yeah uh it looks like the creators' statement came out first and they just posted this article with a delayed update at the bottom to make it look like theirs came first lmao. there's absolutely no way they posted this on the same day kurvitz and rostov posted their statement and didn't see it. this article is baseless, sourceless mudflinging in retaliation of the news that kurvitz are rostov are suing. --- http://i.imgur.com/LabbRyN.jpg raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 11/10/22 3:36:57 PM #10: |
https://twitter.com/martinluiga/status/1590259960751194113 hey look another minor shareholder was fired with one of the majority shareholders claiming he never had shares to begin with --- http://i.imgur.com/LabbRyN.jpg raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hard_Light 11/10/22 3:51:28 PM #11: |
it would still be a fair firing my man, especially if they had prior established history of being toxic i'm not gonna argue if it's particularly ethical at how they went about it but toxicity should never be tolerated in the workplace so fair firing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 11/10/22 3:54:28 PM #12: |
if he achieved sole decision-making power through illegal means and then fired those who were trying to expose him, that is not fair firing. he never legally had the authority to do so, only illegally. --- http://i.imgur.com/LabbRyN.jpg raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 11/10/22 4:00:04 PM #13: |
Hard_Light posted... especially if they had prior established history of being toxici'd also like to point out that luiga's quote was not talking about rostov and kurvitz, he was referencing the investors. luiga was one of the guys who wasn't ousted from the company (left on his own later on) but was still on their side, saying it was unfair termination. --- http://i.imgur.com/LabbRyN.jpg raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hard_Light 11/10/22 4:01:55 PM #14: |
imma be honest with you i wanted to be super disingenuous right there and be all "oh so now you support toxicity blah blah blah" but i couldn't find a way to make it not sound super obviously trolly so i'm just gonna take the L because my ego is too hurt from my inability to tie it in with a proper response ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GanonsSpirit 11/10/22 5:29:59 PM #15: |
helly topic --- http://i.imgur.com/tsQUpxC.jpg Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[|||||||||||||]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSlinja 11/10/22 6:07:07 PM #16: |
Hard_Light posted... imma be honest with you i wanted to be super disingenuous right there and be all "oh so now you support toxicity blah blah blah" but i couldn't find a way to make it not sound super obviously trolly so i'm just gonna take the L because my ego is too hurt from my inability to tie it in with a proper responsecommon helly W --- DIRT ON ME I'M FINNA BLOSSOM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hard_Light 11/11/22 5:30:57 AM #17: |
what is a common helly w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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