Current Events > Is there a problem with an 18 year old joining the military?

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I kinda feel like they should move it to 21.

I kinda feel like they should move it to 21.

I kinda feel like they should move it to 21.

Then more people would be smart enough to realise its not something a sensible person would do.

But you see. That would effectively kill the military. Especially today when recruits are at an all time low.

But you see. That would effectively kill the military. Especially today when recruits are at an all time low.

But it *is* immoral to try to get 16/17 year old kids to want to join the military.

Anyone arguing otherwise is wrong.

You can litterally join at 16 with parental consent in Canada

Same in the UK, but we also didnt do any of that youre an adult at 21 rubbish that they do in the US.

At 16, I lived on my own, had a job and paid my bills. To claim that somebody in that position isnt an adult is insulting.

Same in the UK, but we also didnt do any of that youre an adult at 21 rubbish that they do in the US.

At 16, I lived on my own, had a job and paid my bills. To claim that somebody in that position isnt an adult is insulting.

Same in the UK, but we also didnt do any of that youre an adult at 21 rubbish that they do in the US.

At 16, I lived on my own, had a job and paid my bills. To claim that somebody in that position isnt an adult is insulting.

I mean I am not sure about other provinces, but in mine you can rent your own apartment at 16 as well, but you need parental consent. That said. I feel like the military should be a little more restricted than it is

You know you're a huge exception to the rule right?

Saying someone is not fully emotionally developed at 16 is not a particularly hot take imo

I dont see how we can use that as a measure for when somebody becomes an adult.

Same in the UK, but we also didnt do any of that youre an adult at 21 rubbish that they do in the US.

At 16, I lived on my own, had a job and paid my bills. To claim that somebody in that position isnt an adult is insulting.

When was this exactly? The UK may be different, but I damn sure couldn't afford that when I was 16. Even in the worst part of town.

so a saying goes, you tell a soldier there's a heavily fortified position that needs to be taken. at 18 he asks "when?"; at 25 he asks "how?"; at 30 he asks "why?"

i'm not exactly opposed to 18 year olds enlisting, as the structure, discipline, exposure to new environments and mindsets, guaranteed work experience, and benefits can change lives for the better. but those in power need to direct and command with utmost discretion, because their recklessness can and does ruin lives, families, and societies at home and abroad.

100% the truth.

One of my friends from the military joined at 17. We met in bmt and I was surprised that he was that young despite me being only 2 years older lol. He is still serving too. He just works backstop for f-15s. Seemed pretty cushy to me whenever he'd describe it. I worked the flightline and hated it. I dipped out the military a few years ago.

Yeah its cushy untiL the chemicals get you. My pops best friend worked on airfields pretty much his entire life until one of the chemicals pretty much systematically fucked every organ in his body.

Damn that sucks. There is an indicator on the f16 that turns blue or purple (my memory is off) when a certain chemical called Hydrazine is leaking. If its blue/purple you have to gtfo away from the aircraft. I heard from other coworkers that if you've been exposed to it 3 times on your record you get medically discharged.

I remember some people being around a jet when the indicator turned blue/purple and they had to be sprayed with a fire hose. Got to leave work early too iirc.

Found a pic of the indicator. It is supposed to be orange normally. Never been around one that changed colours fortunately.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/5/AAZsuhAAD2Cz.jpg

Dont know if its that one or the same one thats in transformers my granddaddy had to wade through after one cracked or the shit they used to use in firefighting foam. There are a lot of shitty chemicals still in use on bases from what I can tell.

It's not a bad way to get yourself off to a good career start if you can hack it. Opportunities for work in the DoD contracting industry are easy to come by for vets and the career depth once you're there is pretty lucrative.

It is super easy to hack it if you are in a non combat job.

I can only go off my experience but I do remember often being dirtied by hydraulic fluids (the main generator needed a bunch of that stuff) and also working on components that have fibre glass (like ducts and valves). Prob not good for long term health. Probably all kinds of other nasty crap im not aware about too. .

Also that firesuppresant foam that is used in hangars is super toxic too. They use them as far as I know.

Well I mean making it through basic and being able to put up with crap pay for awhile.

No, it's a great career opportunity for many low income individuals. And anyone who takes issue with that usually are naive, ignorant, virtue signaling, and have no better alternatives. Ever.

so you see no problem with the military preying on poor people?

so you see no problem with the military preying on poor people?

No, it's a great career opportunity for many low income individuals. And anyone who takes issue with that usually are naive, ignorant, virtue signaling, and have no better alternatives. Ever.

That's not how I see it, so no.

Even then who isn't trying to prey on the poor?

And why is the military and benefits it offers them a problem for you?

For the record, most of these kids don't even fully understand why they're fighting in the first place

it's what they're doing whether or not you see it that way

irrelevant. we aren't talking about other organizations preying on the poor. we are talking about the military.

because it's preying on poor people and getting them to participate in an illegal never-ending war

Is there a problem with an 18 year old joining the military?