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ZannoL
10/31/22 11:40:18 PM
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https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/heartstopper-kit-connor-lgbtq-bisexual-forced-1235419131/

Fans of and the creator behind Netflix series Heartstopper are rallying around series star Kit Connor after the actor shared that he was forced to come out as bisexual.

The 18-year-old actor made a rare appearance on Twitter Monday, writing: Back for a minute. Im bi. Congrats for forcing an 18 year old to out himself. I think some of you missed the point of the show. Bye.

In Heartstopper, Connor plays Nick Nelson, a popular rugby player who befriends Joe Lockes Charlie Spring; the two develop a romantic relationship.

Alice Oseman, the creator, writer and showrunner of Heartstopper, immediately shared her support for Connor in a reply to his tweet.

I truly dont understand how people can watch Heartstopper and then gleefully spend their time speculating about sexualities and judging based on stereotypes, Oseman wrote. I hope all those people are embarrassed as FUCK. Kit you are amazing.

Though Connor didnt specify why he felt forced to come out, some have recently accused the actor of queerbaiting on social media. The controversy began after photos emerged of him holding hands with Maia Reficco, his co-star in A Cuban Girls Guide to Tea and Tomorrow.

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Popcorn2000
10/31/22 11:51:17 PM
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People are shit. Especially zoomies
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Number090684
11/01/22 12:00:27 AM
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Popcorn2000 posted...
People are shit. Especially zoomies

I'm starting to feel this is true as I come across them more in public.
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A_Good_Boy
11/01/22 12:00:57 AM
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I'm still not sure how he was coerced into coming out.

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Doe
11/01/22 12:01:03 AM
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Popcorn2000 posted...
People are shit. Especially zoomies
CE boomers need to get a grip. Imagine believing gen z is the worst about homophobia

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Timmyjinkle
11/01/22 12:02:58 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
I'm still not sure how he was coerced into coming out.

Probably people saying that "Bisexual" characters should only be played by "Bisexual" people, and then demanding his sexuality to make sure it's the right one.

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CRON
11/01/22 12:03:27 AM
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Zoomers are so irreparably fucked in the head it's unbelievable. They have limited experience with actual human interaction so they end up having these unsettling parasocial relationships with people they see in media. They feel entitled to knowing extensively about the personal lives of people who don't know they even exist.
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xGhostchantx
11/01/22 12:05:30 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
I'm still not sure how he was coerced into coming out.

Knowing what Twitter is like, probably radleft people @ing him constantly.

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Iodine
11/01/22 12:07:40 AM
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Timmyjinkle posted...
Probably people saying that "Bisexual" characters should only be played by "Bisexual" people, and then demanding his sexuality to make sure it's the right one (since he's only 18, he won't have much of a history for them to check).
Yeah this sounds about right.

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Robot2600
11/01/22 12:09:32 AM
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being bi is tough on so many levels. people think it's "easier." it's not.

if the default is straight, the "other" is queer

but...

even within queerness the default is monosexual (attracted to only one gender), and the "other" is bisexual (or pan), so it's double-marked.

one literally gets hate from straight people and gay people. it's the gay people that hurt the most, tbh.

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ZannoL
11/01/22 12:10:45 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
being bi is tough on so many levels. people think it's "easier." it's not.

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TaylorHeinicke
11/01/22 12:15:42 AM
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Timmyjinkle posted...
Probably people saying that "Bisexual" characters should only be played by "Bisexual" people, and then demanding his sexuality to make sure it's the right one (since he's only 18, he won't have much of a history for them to check).
That doesn't obligate him to say anything

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FortuneCookie
11/01/22 12:17:31 AM
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The whole "you must be x to play x" notion is bogus. Not everything is tantamount to blackface.
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Robot2600
11/01/22 12:17:37 AM
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something similar happened to benedict cumberbatch a while back where he essentially had to say "i'm queer enough to play this part" but didn't elaborate.

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Solution_45
11/01/22 12:23:45 AM
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TaylorHeinicke posted...
That doesn't obligate him to say anything

probably did it so the zoomer shitbags would finally shut the fuck up
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MrMallard
11/01/22 12:25:51 AM
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I remember a while back when Arin Hanson was on Tumblr, and people were messaging him asking him to come out as bisexual because it would mean so much to queer fans. This stems from the frequent honoeroticism he displays on Game Grumps. I don't even remember if he responded, but I remember the conversation getting so heated and the stakes of his sexuality getting so high that he never logged back on.

As far as he's shared, he's a hetero man who's had some gay experiences in a way that reinforce his attraction to women, because he's secure enough in his sexuality and his lack of attraction during those gay experiences to know definitively that he's attracted to women. But even if he was bi, trying to guilt someone into coming out is a shitty thing to do and there's no justification for it.

The most famous actor/actress in the world could be rampantly, 100%, all the way out queer behind closed doors, but they could display themselves as nothing but heterosexual in their public lives and in their career. At no point is anyone, from the most secluded hermit to the most well-known and influential person on earth, somehow honor-bound to disclose their sexuality for anyone else's benefit or comfort but their own.

This was a shitty thing that happened, and I hope this Kit guy ends up being okay.

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bnui_ransder
11/01/22 12:27:11 AM
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It's not even an age/generation thing at this point. I'm coming across more and more people of all ages that are rude, condescending, talking about things that don't involve them and having to know everything about things going on.

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Gremlynn
11/01/22 12:38:30 AM
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Iodine posted...
Yeah this sounds about right.

No it don't.

It's bi erasure on "fans" part, not his or the studios.

Like, take one minute to read even just the sliver of the article that was posted.

people are accusing him of "queerbaiting", this is not something he wants to be associated with and it's an association that has the potential to make some aspects of his life more difficult than they need to be. getting ahead of it is a prudent decision but the only way to do it was by going public with an aspect of himself he might not have otherwise felt ready for.

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mehmeh1
11/01/22 12:41:22 AM
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TaylorHeinicke posted...
That doesn't obligate him to say anything
people can crack under pressure

EDIT: oh wait misunderstood what you said, yeah I agree, thought you were saying it as in "he could've just not said it, easy"

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Melzargard
11/01/22 12:47:48 AM
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CRON posted...
Zoomers are so irreparably fucked in the head it's unbelievable. They have limited experience with actual human interaction so they end up having these unsettling parasocial relationships with people they see in media. They feel entitled to knowing extensively about the personal lives of people who don't know they even exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_Spears
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

Damn zoomers, amirite?
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Kitt
11/01/22 12:59:30 AM
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How about we not generalize an entire generation of people, m'kay?

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Stallion_Prime
11/01/22 1:03:34 AM
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Kitt posted...
How about we not generalize an entire generation of people, m'kay?
No.

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spanky1
11/01/22 1:08:31 AM
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This is a thing that happens in the author world too. Someone may write about a certain subject, let's just say for example being gay, and then readers demand to get all the facts about the author in some kind of bizarre virtue fueled hunt, and people may be outed that didn't want to be. Happens with stuff like mental issues too.

The virtue police are so worried an author isn't what they're writing about that they've caused authors harm.

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Gamespoht
11/01/22 1:09:24 AM
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Did these "fans" forget to separate the character from the actor?

It's not even just that, too many users just project their insecurities to these famous people

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wackyteen
11/01/22 1:17:08 AM
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spanky1 posted...
This is a thing that happens in the author world too. Someone may write about a certain subject, let's just say for example being gay, and then readers demand to get all the facts about the author in some kind of bizarre virtue fueled hunt, and people may be outed that didn't want to be. Happens with stuff like mental issues too.

The virtue police are so worried an author isn't what they're writing about that they've caused authors harm.
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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 2:22:04 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
being bi is tough on so many levels. people think it's "easier." it's not.

if the default is straight, the "other" is queer

but...

even within queerness the default is monosexual (attracted to only one gender), and the "other" is bisexual (or pan), so it's double-marked.

one literally gets hate from straight people and gay people. it's the gay people that hurt the most, tbh.

Yeah only thing that might be easier is pretending to be straight if you are closeted.

But yeah I got tired of being told I was just gay and confused or some such shit by gay people.

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FortuneCookie
11/01/22 11:00:40 AM
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Kitt posted...
How about we not generalize an entire generation of people, m'kay?


Generationalization
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FaultyCircuitry
11/01/22 11:03:02 AM
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xGhostchantx posted...
Knowing what Twitter is like, probably radleft people @ing him constantly.

Fan of racist black metal bands thinks Twitter libs are radical leftists

Xd

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Cheetaluv
11/01/22 11:03:25 AM
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Kitt posted...
How about we not generalize an entire generation of people, m'kay?

Everyone does it all the time with literately everything.

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Master_Kazuya
11/01/22 11:07:04 AM
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I don't use Twitter and I don't feel like I'm missing out. Why even read it if it sucks especially when you're famous?

If you're famous/rich, just get some intern or hire someone (or a team) to manage your social media and report back

Never seems like a good idea to engage directly

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Umbreon
11/01/22 11:08:21 AM
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The specific reason why they were forced into outting themselves hasn't been given yet, so don't treat speculation as gospel.

Regardless though, it's shitty to force anyone to out themselves. People should do that on their own terms.


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ThisIsAKnoife
11/01/22 11:12:16 AM
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But hes right though for the most part. Just look at Twitch stream chats.

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yusiko
11/01/22 11:24:47 AM
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i discovered twitch a few days ago for the first time
i knew it existed but i never used it before and the largest stream ive been in so far as been 41 people
i like watching people play retro jrpgs i love for the first time so thats what ive been looking for but those streams only get like 8 or 10 people

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ROBANN_88
11/01/22 11:28:14 AM
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ZannoL posted...
some have recently accused the actor of queerbaiting on social media.

please tell me that's not a real thing

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FaultyCircuitry
11/01/22 11:33:40 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
please tell me that's not a real thing

Queer baiting absolutely is a thing that happens in media. Show just enough to entice queer people into thinking it could be, but never enough to confirm.


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Robot2600
11/01/22 11:34:31 AM
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Queerbaiting is def a real thing.

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Umbreon
11/01/22 11:35:11 AM
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Twitch chat varies widely depending on the environment as well as how popular the streamer is.

There's chill chats, there's cancerous chats.

ROBANN_88 posted...
please tell me that's not a real thing


Queerbaiting is absolutely a thing. The typical example is when two male/female characters gets put in a vaguely homoerotic scenario and it gets advertised... but nothing will ever happen.

Or they have a kiss but then one of the characters dies and the other kind of just loses plot relevancy.

Though accusing the actor himself of queerbaiting seems especially stupid.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 11:35:25 AM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
Queer baiting absolutely is a thing that happens in media. Show just enough to entice queer people into thinking it could be, but never enough to confirm.

Yeah. Fang and Vanille in final fantasy 13 is a good example off the top of my head

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Robot2600
11/01/22 11:35:34 AM
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The 2 girls from ff13 are a good example of queerbaiting. Or lily from how I met ur mother.

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Robot2600
11/01/22 11:36:33 AM
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Life is Strange is one giant queerbait. Still a good game.

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DipDipDiver
11/01/22 11:39:00 AM
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If he felt forced that's kinda on him, people speculating about famous peoples' private lives is as old as the concept of fame itself
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FaultyCircuitry
11/01/22 11:39:12 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
Life is Strange is one giant queerbait. Still a good game.

I'm glad True Colors avoided being baity like that. Absolutely nailed it imo

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Lost_All_Senses
11/01/22 11:39:38 AM
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I don't get it. Is 2 people not sure about who they are or what they want it's own story? It's not realistic that something would come of it 100% of the time. Aren't you denying those who end up in that situation their story being represented?

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IfGodCouldDie
11/01/22 11:39:48 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
The whole "you must be x to play x" notion is bogus. Not everything is tantamount to blackface.
Well yea, blackface is completely different. This would be the same as taking an X race character and having it be played by a Y race person which is completely fine as long as X isn't trying to pretend to be Y.

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FaultyCircuitry
11/01/22 11:42:39 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
I don't get it. Is 2 people not sure about who they are not or what they want it's own story? It's not realistic that something would come of it 100% of the time. Aren't you denying those who end up in that situation their story being represented?

Oh no, think of the poor cishets who lack representation.

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Lost_All_Senses
11/01/22 11:44:18 AM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
Oh no, think of the poor cishets who lack representation.

I don't know what that word means. Your childish tone makes me feel like it's not worth looking into >_>

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 11:46:33 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Well yea, blackface is completely different. This would be the same as taking an X race character and having it be played by a Y race person which is completely fine as long as X isn't trying to pretend to be Y.

Race is another issue. Without makeup or whatever you can't just pretend to be another race. People's sexuality isn't defined by physical appearance so anyone can act like a sexuality they aren't.

Like Robert Downey Jr in tropic thunder did a great job. I wouldn't have known he was white if I didnt already know (based on looks) but if he was legit playing a black character and not a white guy playing a black character I woulda felt it woulda been better to just hire a black actor

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