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AceMos
11/01/22 2:27:12 AM
#52:


its funny how batman fans say he is great because he has no powers

then turn around and try to lift him up as some super god being

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 2:30:11 AM
#53:


AceMos posted...
errr spiderman would stomp batman despite what memes tell you batman is not unbeatable and no he CANT beat superman

Except batman has? Alt universe but I think the best instance was red son superman. Lured him to a rooftop and activated a bunch of red solar energy lights then beat the breaks off him till wonder woman showed up. And that was against a superman that wasn't so nice. Batman usually has a chance of beating superman cause he won't kill and would rather not cripple a man either. Batman doesn't kill but he has zero qualms playing dirty and hurting the fuck out of someone.

Unprepared yeah bats loses every time. Especially against a superman that isn't playing like when he broke bats back in injustice. Or earth 27 superman that knew batman would go running for his kryptonite.

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Shabriri
11/01/22 9:52:16 AM
#54:


Michael Myers would beat Batman

He'd also beat Deathstroke

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EyeWontBeFooled
11/01/22 9:56:13 AM
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GS4Life posted...
Jason is far stronger and more durable than Michael it's not even remotely close


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meestermj
11/01/22 9:56:21 AM
#56:


Anyone that thinks Michael has a chance against Jason is either deluding themselves or hasn't seen any of either movie series.

It's an easy win an everyone knows it.

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AceMos
11/01/22 9:57:15 AM
#57:


meestermj posted...
Anyone that thinks Michael has a chance against Jason is either deluding themselves or hasn't seen any of either movie series.

It's an easy win an everyone knows it.
indeed like i said even if we limited them to their "human" feats jasons till stomps

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Tom_Joad
11/01/22 10:07:11 AM
#58:


Shabriri posted...
Michael Myers would beat Batman

He'd also beat Deathstroke

Nah, both Jason and Michael Myers are easy opponents to render harmless. The important thing is to not kill them or ignore them.

Here's how you deal with them. (Though, after the battle, you collect their limbs, dice them into cubes, and melt lead around them all so they can't reattach. You could knock their teeth out and cut off their tongues, too. Then hang a sign around their necks saying "Kick me in the Jimmy!")

https://youtu.be/kRwCPUEND1U?t=60

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AceMos
11/01/22 10:10:10 AM
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here is a question jason vs batman but its batman in his first year long before he has faced tons of freaks and is still use to just fighting mob goons

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 10:46:16 AM
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AceMos posted...
here is a question jason vs batman but its batman in his first year long before he has faced tons of freaks and is still use to just fighting mob goons

He'd get stomped barely survive then come back later with a better plan. If the writers wanted him to win. Cause that's just what they do with batman.

Shabriri posted...
Michael Myers would beat Batman

He'd also beat Deathstroke

Saying he'd beat deathstroke is going a bit far. To be fair I haven't seen many Jason movies but I somehow doubt he's faced someone with slades arsenal plus combat/strategy skills. Not to mention a healing factor though slow slade could play keep away long enough to heal.

Batman at his best would likely need to utilize Jason's fear of water or bring in heavy weaponry that he typically doesn't use. But that would likely be the plot armor they use for the year one scenario mentioned. Bats would somehow discover his fear of water while observing him after his initial ass whooping

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ArchNemo
11/01/22 11:22:55 AM
#61:


Tyranthraxus posted...
No he's not and people acting like he is is part of the problem.

I don't give a fuck if you trained your martial arts since before you could walk no mortal human can do something like this:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/2/AARLwzAAD1pm.jpg

There's also not much functional difference between some of his stupid gadgets and "super powers" Like his grappling hooks are fundamentally identical to Spider-Man's web swinging.

And furthermore Amanda Waller considers him a metahuman.

It's a comic book. A peak human in real life couldn't do what Batman does in real life. Just like action heroes do things in movies that no human could possibly do even in movies with no supernatural elements at all.

But within the bounds of the story, Batman is a human. So, whatever crazy physical feats Batman can do, Captain America can surpass them. And I don't really consider a random comment made by Amanda Waller evidence of anything.

Also, for the record, Spider-Man is far, far stronger than Killer Croc.

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Shabriri
11/01/22 11:36:42 AM
#62:


are we *still* doing the batman/cap debacle? decades of this nonsense. batman gets murked lol come on now

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Tyranthraxus
11/01/22 11:44:23 AM
#63:


ArchNemo posted...
It's a comic book. A peak human in real life couldn't do what Batman does in real life. Just like action heroes do things in movies that no human could possibly do even in movies with no supernatural elements at all.

Things in action movies generally stretch probability but not possibility. It's improbable that Arnold Schwarzenegger busts into a room with 50 bad guys and kills them all with an assault rifle but that is something well under physical limits of human ability.

ArchNemo posted...
But within the bounds of the story, Batman is a human. So, whatever crazy physical feats Batman can do, Captain America can surpass them. And I don't really consider a random comment made by Amanda Waller evidence of anything.

Captain America and Batman do not have an identical list of powers. If the only concern here was raw physical ability then yes, but Batman is way more than a just dude who can kick a tree in half.

ArchNemo posted...
Also, for the record, Spider-Man is far, far stronger than Killer Croc.

Killer Croc is strong enough to OHKO Batman. That's all that matters. From Batman's perspective both of them may as well have infinite strength.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 11:51:28 AM
#64:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Things in action movies generally stretch probability but not possibility. It's improbable that Arnold Schwarzenegger busts into a room with 50 bad guys and kills them all with an assault rifle but that is something well under physical limits of human ability.

Captain America and Batman do not have an identical list of powers. If the only concern here was raw physical ability then yes, but Batman is way more than a just dude who can kick a tree in half.

Killer Croc is strong enough to OHKO Batman. That's all that matters. From Batman's perspective both of them may as well have infinite strength.

To be fair for all we know that tree was long dead. Not in one shot but there is video of a girl punching a tree into splinters.

Also not true on croc and spidey.. knowing their strengths batman would know he could drop a shit load more weight on spideys head and not kill him. He'd also know while his tank (like from dark knight returns) could probably take croc but not spiderman.

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Tyranthraxus
11/01/22 12:01:10 PM
#65:


Sufferedphoneix posted...
To be fair for all we know that tree was long dead. Not in one shot but there is video of a girl punching a tree into splinters.

Also not true on croc and spidey.. knowing their strengths batman would know he could drop a shit load more weight on spideys head and not kill him. He'd also know while his tank (like from dark knight returns) could probably take croc but not spiderman.

I actually think Spider-Man and Killer Croc have similar levels of durability. In terms of dropping weight, Spider-Man would be able to escape easier just by lifting it up and tossing it to the side (croc would have to claw his way out), but in so far as the damage it causes the two of them I don't think Croc would be hurt much. Croc got thrown under a train by Batman once which is something that also happened to Spider-Man and while they both lived, neither of them came out of that unscathed.

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ArchNemo
11/01/22 12:06:00 PM
#66:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Things in action movies generally stretch probability but not possibility. It's improbable that Arnold Schwarzenegger busts into a room with 50 bad guys and kills them all with an assault rifle but that is something well under physical limits of human ability.

Captain America and Batman do not have an identical list of powers. If the only concern here was raw physical ability then yes, but Batman is way more than a just dude who can kick a tree in half.

Killer Croc is strong enough to OHKO Batman. That's all that matters. From Batman's perspective both of them may as well have infinite strength.

Yeah but the only reason Batman can beat Croc is because he can outsmart him. Spider-Man is a stronger, faster, Killer Croc that is arguably smarter than Batman.

I hate arguing about Batman in a lot of ways because he's given absurd feats because they need to justify his position in the greater DCU and as a member of the JLA. Like, there's no reason a guy who can beat Superman and defeat armies of aliens by himself should also have trouble capturing Two-Face or the Penguin. If you think solely about what Batman is as a character, there's no way he should beat Spider-Man. But people use every ridiculous feat from every author who didn't understand the character over his 80 year history to justify why he can.


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Tyranthraxus
11/01/22 12:11:39 PM
#67:


ArchNemo posted...
Yeah but the only reason Batman can beat Croc is because he can outsmart him. Spider-Man is a stronger, faster, Killer Croc that is arguably smarter than Batman.

I hate arguing about Batman in a lot of ways because he's given absurd feats because they need to justify his position in the greater DCU and as a member of the JLA. Like, there's no reason a guy who can beat Superman and defeat armies of aliens by himself should also have trouble capturing Two-Face or the Penguin. If you think solely about what Batman is as a character, there's no way he should beat Spider-Man. But people use every ridiculous feat from every author who didn't understand the character over his 80 year history to justify why he can.

I mean I already said way back in post 15 that Batman would never win a DB as the math is just stacked against him at every level, even after JL-scaling feats.

I only said he could win in the context of a comic where events would be favorable to Batman. If Spider-Man jobs to Captain America, he can job to Batman as well.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 12:13:56 PM
#68:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I actually think Spider-Man and Killer Croc have similar levels of durability. In terms of dropping weight, Spider-Man would be able to escape easier just by lifting it up and tossing it to the side (croc would have to claw his way out), but in so far as the damage it causes the two of them I don't think Croc would be hurt much. Croc got thrown under a train by Batman once which is something that also happened to Spider-Man and while they both lived, neither of them came out of that unscathed.

Fair enough. I'll reframe it as in knowing how strong of something he'd need to capture/detain them. As that would literally be his only hope in stopping spiderman as far as i know. Some sorta trap. And that's only if spidermans spidey senses fail him. Which can happen. Deadpool has killed him with a surprise attack before.

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ArchNemo
11/01/22 12:15:15 PM
#69:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I mean I already said way back in post 15 that Batman would never win a DB as the math is just stacked against him at every level, even after JL-scaling feats.

I only said he could win in the context of a comic where events would be favorable to Batman. If Spider-Man jobs to Captain America, he can job to Batman as well.

Oh. I mean, I still disagree, but yeah Batman definitely has a better chance against a Spider-Man that isn't willing to kill him and there are other factors involved.

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Foppe
11/01/22 12:32:36 PM
#70:


Why would Spider-Man go OOC and try to kill Batman?

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ArchNemo
11/01/22 12:35:34 PM
#71:


Foppe posted...
Why would Spider-Man go OOC and try to kill Batman?

We're arguing about a death battle.

I was, at least. It's the videos title.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 12:40:13 PM
#72:


ArchNemo posted...
Oh. I mean, I still disagree, but yeah Batman definitely has a better chance against a Spider-Man that isn't willing to kill him and there are other factors involved.

I legit feel batmans only chance is a surprise attack or trap. And as said that would still require spidey sense to fail.

Cap has some abilities that give him a chance. Like can't he "see faster" or some stupid shit. I'm guessing the same kinda thing that allows deathstroke to shoot a speedster.

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ArchNemo
11/01/22 12:44:50 PM
#73:


Sufferedphoneix posted...
I legit feel batmans only chance is a surprise attack or trap. And as said that would still require spidey sense to fail.

Cap has some abilities that give him a chance. Like can't he "see faster" or some stupid shit. I'm guessing the same kinda thing that allows deathstroke to shoot a speedster.

Can he see faster or is he just able to react faster to the things he sees? I've never heard this so I dunno, you could be right.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 12:46:25 PM
#74:


ArchNemo posted...
Can he see faster or is he just able to react faster to the things he sees? I've never heard this so I dunno, you could be right.

I just seem to recall a comic panel where even he himself is struggling to explain it and he's like idk I just see faster.

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Tyranthraxus
11/01/22 12:57:09 PM
#75:


ArchNemo posted...
Can he see faster or is he just able to react faster to the things he sees? I've never heard this so I dunno, you could be right.

Deathstroke has essentially supernatural martial arts. You know how Kenshiro knows all these stupid ass pressure points that can literally have any effect he wants and constantly makes shit up? Deathstroke is like that. In the case of The Flash, he used a technique that "completely negates advantages given by speed differentials"

the technique was he held out a knife and flash ran into it.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 1:07:48 PM
#76:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Deathstroke has essentially supernatural martial arts. You know how Kenshiro knows all these stupid ass pressure points that can literally have any effect he wants and constantly makes shit up? Deathstroke is like that. In the case of The Flash, he used a technique that "completely negates advantages given by speed differentials"

the technique was he held out a knife and flash ran into it.

He's shot one too with a shot gun I believe.

Deathstroke hit the the flash with hisbsword but forced flash to run a certain route to do it. So that was more he prepared for him.

The shooting one was more impressive in terms of raw physical ability. He shot him while he was running. It wasn't flash though. Think his grandson or some shit. Not as fast but still damn fast

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Tyranthraxus
11/01/22 1:25:48 PM
#77:


Sufferedphoneix posted...
but forced flash to run a certain route to do it

I'm just saying flash could (should be able to) see the blade sticking out, stop, turn around, run the completely opposite direction around the earth and hit him from the other side within an imperceptible amount of extra time.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 1:30:47 PM
#78:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I'm just saying flash could (should be able to) see the blade sticking out, stop, turn around, run the completely opposite direction around the earth and hit him from the other side within an imperceptible amount of extra time.

Hmm he may have been trapped by the explosions. As in if he ran back couldn't have dodged all the shrapnel. Idk just speculating here. Idk if he was adept at phasing though stuff on the fly when that comic was made.

That wasn't even the most asinine way deathstroke beat someone in that comic.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 3:03:01 PM
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I can't recall. Beating Hawkeye and atom with a laser pointer was funny though.

Trying to out willpower greenlantern so he could take his ring was a stretch though. But we will never know cause he under estimated green arrow.

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ultimate_reaver
11/01/22 3:10:22 PM
#81:


Foppe posted...
Why would Spider-Man go OOC and try to kill Batman?

death battle is just a way for old guys to keep bumping their action figures together long after throwing them out

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DrizztLink
11/01/22 3:20:41 PM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
That wasn't even the most asinine way deathstroke beat someone in that comic.
It's not even the most asinine way he beat someone in that fight.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/01/22 4:42:21 PM
#83:


DrizztLink posted...
It's not even the most asinine way he beat someone in that fight.

That's what I meant. Think it was the only fight in that comic. Single issue of a comic

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