Current Events > More and more Texas Republicans are calling for Texas to break away from the US

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ZannoL
10/21/22 10:57:24 PM
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https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/are-texas-republicans-serious-about-secession/

Calls for independence are growing louder on the right. Maybe that would change if more Texans understood the costs of such a move.

Texit advocates are notably short on details about how a split actually would play out. Miller argues that there will be time to iron out the details of immigration and economic policy. There would be a lot of ironing out to do. Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, when the federal government sent billions of dollars in relief funds to the state, Texas was receiving more money from Washington each year than it was contributing. In 2019, for example, Texas paid $272 billion in federal taxes, but received $300 billion from the federal government. Federal funds typically account for about one third of the states annual budget, according to Every Texan, a nonprofit budget and policy center.

The obvious answer would be as ironic as it is straightforward: raise taxes. In all, DeLuna said, To replace the government services we rely on, the nation of Texas would have to find a way to get an additional nine thousand dollars or so per person living herepossibly through income or sales taxes. For a two-person household, thats eighteen thousand dollars coming out of your pocket.

If Texas were to secede, shutting off the fire hose of federal dollars pouring into the state each year, the new nations leaders would face a series of daunting budgetary dilemmas. Among the most pressing: how to replace Social Security and Medicare. Although Texas has the highest uninsured rate in the country, with millions of employed but uninsured individuals, Texans older than 65 (about 3.8 million) have a 98 percent health insurance rate thanks to Medicare. The same cohort has only a 12 percent poverty rate, in large part because of its access to Social Security, according to Eva DeLuna, a state budget analyst at Every Texan. As an independent nation, Texas would have to come up with its own way to replace such massive federal programs or leave elderly citizens to fend for themselves.

Texas independence would unleash countless other problems. For starters, the new nation would need to create a postal service, an aviation administration to oversee air traffic control, and a border patrol to enforce immigration and trade. New revenue would be needed for the upkeep of formerly federally managed roadways. At least one estimate suggests that an independent Texas would need more than a trillion dollars to build a national defense and create requisite government agencies and programs.

To make matters worse, the U.S. government might demand a refund for its shuttered military bases, national parks, prisons, and courthouses, shackling the new country with debt from the moment of conception. And even the TNM website acknowledges that there is no softening the blow when it comes to resolving Texass share of the national debt, which is about $2.3 trillion. When Texas leaves, it will have to take its share of the national debt with it, the site says. After all, in any divorce, outside of custody battles over children, money is the most heated issue. This will be no different.

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thronedfire2
10/21/22 10:58:03 PM
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ok bye

california will call you when you start to starve

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TheHoldSteady
10/21/22 10:58:49 PM
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would screw over the GOP massively in the electoral college

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Big_Nabendu
10/21/22 10:59:58 PM
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Haven't we been here before?


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Cheater87
10/21/22 11:01:51 PM
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When a Democrat is in the White House, Texas wants to break away, when a Republican is in it, California does.

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A_Good_Boy
10/21/22 11:02:30 PM
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Let them leave.

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baiken2
10/21/22 11:02:30 PM
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Do it
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Father_
10/21/22 11:03:09 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
When a Democrat is in the White House, Texas wants to break away, when a Republican is in it, California does.
This.

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Tyranthraxus
10/21/22 11:03:35 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Texit advocates are notably short on details about how a split actually would play out.

It seems pretty simple to me. Write up a treaty and get congress to approve it.

It's simple because the only other option of separation is war

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DD_Divine
10/21/22 11:03:56 PM
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This again?? Like I wish a mother fucker would.

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Umbreon
10/21/22 11:04:01 PM
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We don't accept secessions.

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Strider102
10/21/22 11:04:20 PM
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Let them.

They'll not only no longer be protected by the constitution but also no longer be eligible for federal aid and such

Sucks for the people that wouldn't want to be a part of it though, but maybe it'll cause the Republicans to actually develop functioning brains and realize they fucked up.

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Imit8m3
10/21/22 11:04:38 PM
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Please gtfo. We can always replace them with Puerto Rico

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Damn_Underscore
10/21/22 11:05:06 PM
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What if the US did break into several nations

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Dreepapult
10/21/22 11:05:57 PM
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No single state will leave. I could potentially see groups of states forming new countries together. That's more feasible. But still not super likely

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Tyranthraxus
10/21/22 11:07:26 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
No single state will leave. I could potentially see groups of states forming new countries together. That's more feasible. But still not super likely
Texas is big enough that it could go as a single state. It actually was its own country for a while and it was only admitted because southern states begged them to come in so they could keep the slave state balance.

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cjsdowg
10/21/22 11:08:55 PM
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Please Please Please go. Please take more Republicans with you.

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Robot2600
10/21/22 11:09:52 PM
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buuuuuh bye

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Pitlord_Special
10/21/22 11:11:42 PM
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Texas is the big swole doge up until the weather is bad and then it turns into sad cheems needing federal aid.

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Letron_James
10/21/22 11:13:56 PM
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Honestly I think they should. That way mexico can recapture the territory and give the rest of America laced cocaine

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DD_Divine
10/21/22 11:14:14 PM
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Its the same people that live in Texas that want to get rid of Austin and call them fake Texans because of how liberal Austin is. And by liberals I just mean friendly people that accept others.


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furb
10/21/22 11:19:57 PM
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Does the federal government get to keep all its infrastructure in the state or will Texas refund it?

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Master_Bass
10/21/22 11:21:37 PM
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Can't say I care if they leave. We'd be better off without them fucking everything up, anyway. Bye.

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Calwings
10/21/22 11:21:52 PM
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Questionmarktarius
10/21/22 11:27:41 PM
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The obvious answer would be as ironic as it is straightforward: raise taxes.
Or, you know, cut spending.
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Kurt_Russel
10/21/22 11:30:54 PM
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Cool, they can partner up with Florida

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ZannoL
10/21/22 11:34:06 PM
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FortuneCookie
10/21/22 11:54:39 PM
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No. Stop.

Please don't go.
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Guide
10/21/22 11:59:09 PM
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What is it they say to any other group? "If you don't like it, move."

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ZannoL
10/23/22 9:02:17 PM
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bump
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DarthAragorn
10/23/22 9:03:19 PM
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Do it, you pussies.

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Xatrion
10/23/22 9:04:31 PM
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Take florida with you and declare yourselves the United States of Fucking Stupid.

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jayj350
10/23/22 9:05:37 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
When a Democrat is in the White House, Texas wants to break away, when a Republican is in it, California does.

Both states are full of reactionary dug-in idiots.

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dameon_reaper
10/23/22 9:06:16 PM
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Xatrion posted...
Take florida with you and declare yourselves the United States of Fucking Stupid.

The US of FS.

Hm....doesn't have that ring to it..
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A_Good_Boy
10/23/22 9:06:26 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
When a Democrat is in the White House, Texas wants to break away, when a Republican is in it, California does.
That was still Republicans within the state of California that wanted to leave.

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Zikten
10/23/22 9:07:14 PM
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Do it. We will declare war and reconquor them in like a week. Then they get demoted to a territory and Republicans lose a major red state
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DrizztLink
10/23/22 9:08:25 PM
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dameon_reaper posted...
The US of FS.

Hm....doesn't have that ring to it..
The us-fuss

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Ikzai
10/23/22 9:10:44 PM
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Two states always threaten this. It never happens.

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LightHawKnight
10/23/22 9:30:21 PM
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When their power grid fails again how many will die?

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DarthAragorn
10/23/22 9:49:47 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
When their power grid fails again how many will die?
only poor people so they don't care

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DoesntMatter
10/23/22 9:56:12 PM
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bye, Felicia

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
10/23/22 9:57:58 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
When a Democrat is in the White House, Texas wants to break away, when a Republican is in it, California does.
This, and honestly its always a bluff/hot air.

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jayj350
10/24/22 12:51:02 AM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
This, and honestly its always a bluff/hot air.

It's the same as all the celebrities who claim to leave the country when president from X party wins

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Unknown480
10/24/22 1:00:25 AM
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Grant their wish and see how quickly they beg for U.S. and Mexico support after that
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DirkDiggles
10/24/22 1:18:16 AM
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These stupid hillbillies here don't know what would happen if we decide secession.

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Sayoria
10/24/22 1:41:16 AM
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I wish they could. I seriously wish they could.

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008Zulu
10/24/22 2:47:03 AM
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Sure, let them. Then watch them come bawling and crawling for international aid, once a strong wind knocks out the country's power grid.

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RchHomieQuanChi
10/24/22 3:01:58 AM
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Do it, and the federal government should provide support for anyone who wants to leave

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alphapipi
10/24/22 3:06:28 AM
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baiken2 posted...
Do it
And they can take Florida with them.

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