Current Events > Bernie Sanders: Democrats should have the guts to court Trump voters

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Bestoffuture 10/16/22 1:47:42 PM #1:	https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3690749-bernie-sanders-says-democrats-should-have-the-guts-to-court-some-trump-voters/ --- Clap for that, you stupid bastards. <cite>Bestoffuture posted [p:968754965] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3690749-bernie-sanders-says-democrats-should-have-the-guts-to-court-some-trump-voters/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 10/16/22 1:48:26 PM #2:	Hmm how about no --- MSI MEG X570 Unify \| Ryzen 7 5800X \| 32GB DDR4-3600 \| RTX 3080 Samsung Odyssey G7 32" - 1440p, 240hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:968754986] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Hmm how about no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 10/16/22 1:49:04 PM #3:	No thank you. What could I possibly say that would convince someone who has signed onto to worship a full on fascist? --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:968755004] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>No thank you. What could I possibly say that would convince someone who has signed onto to worship a full on fascist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenMario 10/16/22 1:49:11 PM #4:	But how do you get people to vote for you that don't want what you're selling? I don't see the point in compromising your principles. Of course I also don't understand people who don't believe the government should be helping it's citizens. --- Mario and his best friend Green Mario were introduced in Super Mario Bros for the NES in 1982. <cite>GreenMario posted [p:968755008] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>But how do you get people to vote for you that don't want what you're selling? I don't see the point in compromising your principles.Of course I also don't understand people who don't believe the government should be helping it's citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 10/16/22 1:49:50 PM #5:	Democrats should do alot of things but many of them go against party goals. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:968755021] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Democrats should do alot of things but many of them go against party goals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 10/16/22 1:49:52 PM #6:	What we need is a Democratic party that has the guts to stand up to them say, yeah, were going to take on the greed of the insurance companies and the drug companies and Wall Street. And I think if we do that some of those people, Im not saying all, will say, you know what, Im going to stand with the Democratic Party because on these economic issues, theyre far preferable to right wing Republicans, Sanders said on NBCs Meet the Press. I mean, to me that doesn't sound like courting Trump voters as much as it sounds like accepting whatever ants run across the hill when carrying out Bernie Sanders' politics. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:968755023] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote><quote>What we need is a Democratic party that has the guts to stand up to them say, yeah, were going to take on the greed of the insurance companies and the drug companies and Wall Street. And I think if we do that some of those people, Im not saying all, will say, you know what, Im going to stand with the Democratic Party because on these economic issues, theyre far preferable to right wing Republicans, Sanders said on NBCs Meet the Press. </quote>I mean, to me that doesn't sound like courting Trump voters as much as it sounds like accepting whatever ants run across the hill when carrying out Bernie Sanders' politics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenMario 10/16/22 1:50:40 PM #7:	I'd love it if Democrats were more willing to confront big business but I also don't see how that's courting Trump supporters. --- Mario and his best friend Green Mario were introduced in Super Mario Bros for the NES in 1982. <cite>GreenMario posted [p:968755039] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>I'd love it if Democrats were more willing to confront big business but I also don't see how that's courting Trump supporters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mearcstapa 10/16/22 1:55:25 PM #8:	Anyone that still supported him in 2020, after everything that happened up to that point, and especially after what happened in the immediate aftermath of the election, is way too far gone to ever be reached. It's a waste of effort to even try. --- after years of waiting nothing came <cite>Mearcstapa posted [p:968755134] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Anyone that still supported him in 2020, after everything that happened up to that point, and especially after what happened in the immediate aftermath of the election, is way too far gone to ever be reached. It's a waste of effort to even try.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skyrim_Guard 10/16/22 1:57:08 PM #9:	I'm not meeting fascist half way --- Officer Jenkins of the Skyrim Guard https://youtu.be/wyTGefmN_Ys https://imgtc.com/i/wlByTvx.jpg <cite>Skyrim_Guard posted [p:968755168] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>I'm not meeting fascist half way</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scohen 10/16/22 1:58:10 PM #10:	I knew old man Bernie was a GOP plant. he is pulling the perhaps we should be a bit more racist, sexist and anti abortion just to broaden our base? Shit. might as well just become republicans then --- The Artist has a duty, to seduce the ear and delight the spirit. So say goodbye to those two goobies, and hello to an evening with Sander Cohen. <cite>Scohen posted [p:968755194] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>I knew old man Bernie was a GOP plant.he is pulling the perhaps we should be a bit more racist, sexist and anti abortion just to broaden our base? Shit.might as well just become republicans then </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 10/16/22 1:59:40 PM #11:	DeadBankerDream posted... I mean, to me that doesn't sound like courting Trump voters as much as it sounds like accepting whatever ants run across the hill when carrying out Bernie Sanders' politics. I love Bernie, but it really does sound like his usual talking points. He's only framing it a little differently. --- Listen to the trees and you can hear them sing: run away and you'll be evergreen. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:968755232] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite><quote>I mean, to me that doesn't sound like courting Trump voters as much as it sounds like accepting whatever ants run across the hill when carrying out Bernie Sanders' politics.</quote>I love Bernie, but it really does sound like his usual talking points. He's only framing it a little differently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 10/16/22 2:00:38 PM #12:	We tried that. They would have none of it, and then they tried to overthrow a fair election with domestic terrorism. So nah. Not interested in meeting that party halfway. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:968755253] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>We tried that.They would have none of it, and then they tried to overthrow a fair election with domestic terrorism.So nah. Not interested in meeting that party halfway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scohen 10/16/22 2:02:28 PM #13:	Umbreon posted... We tried that. They would have none of it, and then they tried to overthrow a fair election with domestic terrorism. So nah. Not interested in meeting that party halfway. well said. They just abuse the meet half way rhetoric. they just triple down on their hateful shit so we meet them halfway and they end getting everything they wanted --- The Artist has a duty, to seduce the ear and delight the spirit. So say goodbye to those two goobies, and hello to an evening with Sander Cohen. <cite>Scohen posted [p:968755280] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>We tried that.They would have none of it, and then they tried to overthrow a fair election with domestic terrorism.So nah. Not interested in meeting that party halfway.</quote>well said. They just abuse the meet half way rhetoric.they just triple down on their hateful shit so we meet them halfway and they end getting everything they wanted </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
celestia3 10/16/22 2:03:38 PM #14:	We already run on taking the money out of politics and standing up to corporations. That's been a part of the Democratic platform for the past several cycles. The fact that the Republicans refuse to listen to it (and that Bernie-Women's-Rights-Are-A-Non-Issue-Distraction Sanders doesn't pay enough attention to the Democratic platform to fess up to that) prove that there's no point in pretending they'll ever support us. --- MLP Gen 3 was good. Vanai's alt <cite>celestia3 posted [p:968755312] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>We already run on taking the money out of politics and standing up to corporations. That's been a part of the Democratic platform for the past several cycles. The fact that the Republicans refuse to listen to it (and that Bernie-Women's-Rights-Are-A-Non-Issue-Distraction Sanders doesn't pay enough attention to the Democratic platform to fess up to that) prove that there's no point in pretending they'll ever support us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 10/16/22 2:22:58 PM #15:	Umbreon posted... We tried that. They would have none of it, and then they tried to overthrow a fair election with domestic terrorism. So nah. Not interested in meeting that party halfway. When did the Democrats last try to actually address the material interests of the working class? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:968755726] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>We tried that.They would have none of it, and then they tried to overthrow a fair election with domestic terrorism.So nah. Not interested in meeting that party halfway.</quote>When did the Democrats last try to actually address the material interests of the working class?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/16/22 2:23:41 PM #16:	Democrats have actually passed laws that will help Trump supporters during Biden's presidency. Trump supporters don't care. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:968755739] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Democrats have actually passed laws that will help Trump supporters during Biden's presidency. Trump supporters don't care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 10/16/22 2:26:50 PM #17:	I like Sanders but this is some bullshit. Fuck them. If you still support Trump at this point you are supporting a literal fascist. This is not hyperbole, this is literally what he is. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:968755801] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>I like Sanders but this is some bullshit. Fuck them. If you still support Trump at this point you are supporting a literal fascist. This is not hyperbole, this is literally what he is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 10/16/22 2:28:06 PM #18:	I'm not meeting white nationalist fascists halfway. --- "We tried to tell y'all." - African-American proverb <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:968755827] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>I'm not meeting white nationalist fascists halfway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 10/16/22 2:28:13 PM #19:	cjsdowg posted... I like Sanders but this is some bullshit. Fuck them. If you still support Trump at this point you are supporting a literal fascist. This is not hyperbole, this is literally what he is. What is it specifically that Bernie is saying that is bullshit? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:968755828] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>I like Sanders but this is some bullshit. Fuck them. If you still support Trump at this point you are supporting a literal fascist. This is not hyperbole, this is literally what he is.</quote>What is it specifically that Bernie is saying that is bullshit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/16/22 2:28:21 PM #20:	scar_the_1 posted... When did the Democrats last try to actually address the material interests of the working class? PACT bill helps veterans, including those in the working class The Inflation Reduction Act helps lots of people, including those in the working class. Lots of tax credits are included in that bill for things that the working class needs. The solar tax credit increased and extended will make the largest tax credit I'll likely ever see even larger. There are also renewed tax credits for electric vehicles, energy efficient home appliances like HVAC systems, water heaters, heat pumps, etc. Student loan forgiveness will help about 44 million people with their student loan debt, even after Republicans pushed the Biden administration to drop those whose loans are serviced by certain private lenders. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:968755834] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>scar_the_1 posted... </cite><quote>When did the Democrats last try to actually address the material interests of the working class?</quote>PACT bill helps veterans, including those in the working classThe Inflation Reduction Act helps lots of people, including those in the working class. Lots of tax credits are included in that bill for things that the working class needs. The solar tax credit increased and extended will make the largest tax credit I'll likely ever see even larger. There are also renewed tax credits for electric vehicles, energy efficient home appliances like HVAC systems, water heaters, heat pumps, etc.Student loan forgiveness will help about 44 million people with their student loan debt, even after Republicans pushed the Biden administration to drop those whose loans are serviced by certain private lenders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 10/16/22 2:30:52 PM #21:	CableZL posted... * PACT bill helps veterans, including those in the working class * The Inflation Reduction Act helps lots of people, including those in the working class. Lots of tax credits are included in that bill for things that the working class needs. The solar tax credit increased and extended will make the largest tax credit I'll likely ever see even larger. There are also renewed tax credits for electric vehicles, energy efficient home appliances like HVAC systems, water heaters, heat pumps, etc. * Student loan forgiveness will help about 44 million people with their student loan debt, even after Republicans pushed the Biden administration to drop those whose loans are serviced by certain private lenders. Nice. What does the PACT bill do? Tax credits look a bit broad but if they hit the right demographic that sounds good. When's the student loan forgiveness coming? Feels like it's been talked about for ages. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:968755885] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>* PACT bill helps veterans, including those in the working class* The Inflation Reduction Act helps lots of people, including those in the working class. Lots of tax credits are included in that bill for things that the working class needs. The solar tax credit increased and extended will make the largest tax credit I'll likely ever see even larger. There are also renewed tax credits for electric vehicles, energy efficient home appliances like HVAC systems, water heaters, heat pumps, etc.* Student loan forgiveness will help about 44 million people with their student loan debt, even after Republicans pushed the Biden administration to drop those whose loans are serviced by certain private lenders.</quote>Nice. What does the PACT bill do? Tax credits look a bit broad but if they hit the right demographic that sounds good. When's the student loan forgiveness coming? Feels like it's been talked about for ages.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 10/16/22 2:33:39 PM #22:	scar_the_1 posted... What is it specifically that Bernie is saying that is bullshit She should court Trump voters. Most things that Dems do helps Trump voters. They help Trump voters more then they help their own. HOWEVER these people don't want to be helped. What they want is for gay people, black people and women to have less rigths. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:968755952] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>scar_the_1 posted... </cite><quote>What is it specifically that Bernie is saying that is bullshit</quote>She should court Trump voters. Most things that Dems do helps Trump voters. They help Trump voters more then they help their own. HOWEVER these people don't want to be helped. What they want is for gay people, black people and women to have less rigths. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/16/22 2:34:36 PM #23:	scar_the_1 posted... Nice. What does the PACT bill do? Tax credits look a bit broad but if they hit the right demographic that sounds good. When's the student loan forgiveness coming? Feels like it's been talked about for ages. The PACT bill ensures that veterans who were exposed to toxic substances will be able to get healthcare for the suspected after-effects of that. For example, some veterans were deployed to areas in Iraq with burn pits that emitted lots of hazardous chemicals into the air. Lots of them are experiencing strange health issues that might stem from that, but it has been difficult for them to get healthcare based on that. That's why people like John Stewart were pushing so hard for that bill to pass. The student loan forgiveness application is live now, so anyone who qualifies can apply for it at this moment. I've seen some videos posted by people who said they were able to apply quickly on their phones while they were in drive-throughs at fast food restaurants. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:968755978] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>scar_the_1 posted... </cite><quote>Nice. What does the PACT bill do? Tax credits look a bit broad but if they hit the right demographic that sounds good. When's the student loan forgiveness coming? Feels like it's been talked about for ages.</quote>The PACT bill ensures that veterans who were exposed to toxic substances will be able to get healthcare for the suspected after-effects of that. For example, some veterans were deployed to areas in Iraq with burn pits that emitted lots of hazardous chemicals into the air. Lots of them are experiencing strange health issues that might stem from that, but it has been difficult for them to get healthcare based on that. That's why people like John Stewart were pushing so hard for that bill to pass.The student loan forgiveness application is live now, so anyone who qualifies can apply for it at this moment. I've seen some videos posted by people who said they were able to apply quickly on their phones while they were in drive-throughs at fast food restaurants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 10/16/22 2:35:44 PM #24:	DeadBankerDream posted... What we need is a Democratic party that has the guts to stand up to them say, yeah, were going to take on the greed of the insurance companies and the drug companies and Wall Street. And I think if we do that some of those people, Im not saying all, will say, you know what, Im going to stand with the Democratic Party because on these economic issues, theyre far preferable to right wing Republicans, Sanders said on NBCs Meet the Press. The inflation Reduction Act literally allows Medicare to negotiate drug prices so that there can be lower prices. The inflation Reduction Act literally increases funding of IRS so that they can better go after the rich who avoid taxes. Do the Republicans care? Not one bit --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:968756003] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite><quote>What we need is a Democratic party that has the guts to stand up to them say, yeah, were going to take on the greed of the insurance companies and the drug companies and Wall Street. And I think if we do that some of those people, Im not saying all, will say, you know what, Im going to stand with the Democratic Party because on these economic issues, theyre far preferable to right wing Republicans, Sanders said on NBCs Meet the Press.</quote>The inflation Reduction Act literally allows Medicare to negotiate drug prices so that there can be lower prices.The inflation Reduction Act literally increases funding of IRS so that they can better go after the rich who avoid taxes.Do the Republicans care? Not one bit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar_the_1 10/16/22 2:36:27 PM #25:	cjsdowg posted... She should court Trump voters. Did he actually say that, or did the headline say it? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar_the_1 posted [p:968756016] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>She should court Trump voters.</quote>Did he actually say that, or did the headline say it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/16/22 2:36:30 PM #26:	cjsdowg posted... Most things that Dems do helps Trump voters. They help Trump voters more then they help their own. HOWEVER these people don't want to be helped. What they want is for gay people, black people and women to have less rigths. Yep. Republicans were going around the country calling Biden's infrastructure bill a socialist wish list. After the bill passed, those same Republicans are now wanting money from it to be spent in their districts. Some of them are even trying to take credit for said "socialist money" coming to their districts even though they all voted against it. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:968756020] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Most things that Dems do helps Trump voters. They help Trump voters more then they help their own. HOWEVER these people don't want to be helped. What they want is for gay people, black people and women to have less rigths.</quote>Yep. Republicans were going around the country calling Biden's infrastructure bill a socialist wish list. After the bill passed, those same Republicans are now wanting money from it to be spent in their districts. Some of them are even trying to take credit for said "socialist money" coming to their districts even though they all voted against it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 10/16/22 5:38:28 PM #27:	Courting Trump voters doesn't mean becoming Deplorable yourself. It just means explaining liberal policies in terms they understand. Bc liberal policies are overwhelmingly popular across the country when they are proposed in non-partisan terms, but right-wing folk have been brainwashed to hate anything a dem might suggest. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:968760558] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Courting Trump voters doesn't mean becoming Deplorable yourself. It just means explaining liberal policies in terms they understand. Bc liberal policies are overwhelmingly popular across the country when they are proposed in non-partisan terms, but right-wing folk have been brainwashed to hate anything a dem might suggest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 10/16/22 5:42:26 PM #28:	I mean... okay... but how? Become more -phobic, more tolerant of fake strongmen, more identity driven, more shit? Hardcore Trumpers don't care for logic or reason. They just want to troll the libs. Edit: this is not to say that the Dems shouldn't court more rural voters, though. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:968760639] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>I mean... okay... but how? Become more -phobic, more tolerant of fake strongmen, more identity driven, more shit?Hardcore Trumpers don't care for logic or reason. They just want to troll the libs.Edit: this is not to say that the Dems shouldn't court more rural voters, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/16/22 5:44:44 PM #29:	I mean, on one hand, Fred Hampton was able to get racists on board with his movement by pointing them at the corporations, politicians and police that were fucking them over. But at this point, I think the average Trump supporter is too far gone to actually act in their own self-interest. They care more about sticking it to da libz than building a better country. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:968760702] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>I mean, on one hand, Fred Hampton was able to get racists on board with his movement by pointing them at the corporations, politicians and police that were fucking them over.But at this point, I think the average Trump supporter is too far gone to actually act in their own self-interest. They care more about sticking it to da libz than building a better country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 10/16/22 5:45:57 PM #30:	Nah, everything I needed to know about Trump voters I learned from the Charlottesville rally. This is reinforced with said individuals showing up at a recent DeSantis rally. --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:968760737] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Nah, everything I needed to know about Trump voters I learned from the Charlottesville rally. This is reinforced with said individuals showing up at a recent DeSantis rally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xatrion 10/16/22 5:46:57 PM #31:	Goppers are idiots, and cannot be reasoned with, or 'courted'. --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Strike three. <cite>Xatrion posted [p:968760748] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Goppers are idiots, and cannot be reasoned with, or 'courted'. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scohen 10/16/22 5:48:57 PM #32:	Will_VIIII posted... Nah, everything I needed to know about Trump voters I learned from the Charlottesville rally. This is reinforced with said individuals showing up at a recent DeSantis rally. what happened in that DeSantis rally? --- The Artist has a duty, to seduce the ear and delight the spirit. So say goodbye to those two goobies, and hello to an evening with Sander Cohen. <cite>Scohen posted [p:968760790] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite><quote>Nah, everything I needed to know about Trump voters I learned from the Charlottesville rally. This is reinforced with said individuals showing up at a recent DeSantis rally.</quote>what happened in that DeSantis rally?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AloneIBreak 10/16/22 5:52:55 PM #33:	Its like he actually wants to win elections or something. --- As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance. Libertarian socialist. <cite>AloneIBreak posted [p:968760873] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Its like he actually wants to win elections or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 10/16/22 5:53:38 PM #34:	the entire fucking article is like two paragraphs, yet still... --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:968760896] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>the entire fucking article is like two paragraphs, yet still...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scohen 10/16/22 5:54:32 PM #35:	AloneIBreak posted... Its like he actually wants to win elections or something. he sure helped Hillary and Biden --- The Artist has a duty, to seduce the ear and delight the spirit. So say goodbye to those two goobies, and hello to an evening with Sander Cohen. <cite>Scohen posted [p:968760917] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>AloneIBreak posted... </cite><quote>Its like he actually wants to win elections or something.</quote>he sure helped Hillary and Biden </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Choco 10/16/22 5:54:44 PM #36:	wow i can't believe bernie is an alt-right nazi now v_v --- https://i.imgur.com/286sD4e.png http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html <cite>Choco posted [p:968760919] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>wow i can't believe bernie is an alt-right nazi now v_v</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 10/16/22 7:18:07 PM #37:	Scohen posted... what happened in that DeSantis rally? https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article263800438.html --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:968762882] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Scohen posted... </cite><quote>what happened in that DeSantis rally?</quote>https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article263800438.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate_reaver 10/16/22 7:19:22 PM #38:	he's right. next tweet --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate_reaver posted [p:968762910] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>he's right. next tweet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMog123 10/16/22 7:34:17 PM #39:	Look, I think there are some extreme right-wing voters who are racists, who are sexist, who are homophobes, xenophobes and I dont think youre going to ever get them, Sanders said. But I also think there are millions of people in this country, working class people who look at Washington and they say, you know what, Im falling further and further behind. I cant afford health care. I cant afford to send my kids to college. I cant afford the outrageous cost of prescription drugs. Who is listening to me? This is basically what CE wants, minus the tribalism. Have values and a platform so strong that you entice even entrenched voters. There's a frightening number of voters who said, "If I can't vote for Bernie I'm voting for Trump, since at least he's not an insider." They don't see the Democratic party doing anything for them because their platform is so broad. Meanwhile, Dems can't even pass a bill to limit stock trading amongst politicians. That's not a messaging issue, that's a value issue. Though the Dark Brandon stuff definitely seems like a good step forwards in messaging, just need a better candidate to rally behind. Biden's platform is generally better 1-to-1 than Obama's, but really need that charisma especially in 202X. --- "You're sorely underestimating the power of nostalgia goggles." - adjl http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110218.gif <cite>ChocoboMog123 posted [p:968763282] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote><quote>Look, I think there are some extreme right-wing voters who are racists, who are sexist, who are homophobes, xenophobes and I dont think youre going to ever get them, Sanders said. But I also think there are millions of people in this country, working class people who look at Washington and they say, you know what, Im falling further and further behind. I cant afford health care. I cant afford to send my kids to college. I cant afford the outrageous cost of prescription drugs. Who is listening to me? </quote>This is basically what CE wants, minus the tribalism. Have values and a platform so strong that you entice even entrenched voters. There's a frightening number of voters who said, "If I can't vote for Bernie I'm voting for Trump, since at least he's not an insider." They don't see the Democratic party doing anything for them because their platform is so broad.Meanwhile, Dems can't even pass a bill to limit stock trading amongst politicians. That's not a messaging issue, that's a value issue.Though the Dark Brandon stuff definitely seems like a good step forwards in messaging, just need a better candidate to rally behind. Biden's platform is generally better 1-to-1 than Obama's, but really need that charisma especially in 202X.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 10/16/22 7:39:16 PM #40:	Many poor/struggling conservatives don't realize that the GOP is why they're poor. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:968763396] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>Many poor/struggling conservatives don't realize that the GOP is why they're poor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 10/18/22 2:00:20 PM #41:	ZMythos posted... Many poor/struggling conservatives don't realize that the GOP is why they're poor. And they don't care because these folks have been conditioned to hate liberals even more. <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:968802295] in Bernie San... [t:80200191]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite><quote>Many poor/struggling conservatives don't realize that the GOP is why they're poor.</quote>And they don't care because these folks have been conditioned to hate liberals even more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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