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Seaman_Prime
10/14/22 12:05:51 PM
#51:


Oh i thought they were protesting oil paintings
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NocturneD85
10/14/22 12:06:34 PM
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Popcorn2000
10/14/22 12:08:23 PM
#53:


Goddamn, these people are a fucking idiots
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Scohen
10/14/22 12:08:56 PM
#54:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
Cringe

Do you have all these terrible takes on purpose ?

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Master_Kazuya
10/14/22 12:09:34 PM
#55:


I love seeing you guys get upset over this so much that I'm actually thinking about climate change

It worked, I respect them

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Scohen
10/14/22 12:13:09 PM
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Master_Kazuya posted...
I love seeing you guys get upset over this so much that I'm actually thinking about climate change

It worked, I respect them

if someone decided to spray paint all over your house and throw rotten eggs and stuff like that at your house, for the sake of climate awareness you would think about climate change every time youd see and smell your house, correct? Therefore causing massive respect for whoever did that, correct?

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 12:19:09 PM
#57:


Scohen posted...
Do you have all these terrible takes on purpose ?

Thinking a painting is worth more than the lives of people is peak cringe. I'm sorry my priorities are better than yours

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 12:19:33 PM
#58:


Literally, it's a painting and it wasn't even damaged. Oh no.


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Lil_Bit83
10/14/22 12:21:12 PM
#59:


How is that going to do anything other then make them look like idiots?

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masterpug53
10/14/22 12:25:11 PM
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Lil_Bit83 posted...
How is that going to do anything other then make them look like idiots?

Seem to work for people like Master_Kazuya, who base their values on little more than spite.

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BuckVanHammer
10/14/22 12:25:37 PM
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I think the idea is a priceless painting is worthless on a dead planet. That what they're going for here?

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Tom_Joad
10/14/22 12:29:29 PM
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Master_Kazuya posted...
I love seeing you guys get upset over this so much that I'm actually thinking about climate change

It worked, I respect them

I'm not thinking about climate change with this. I'm thinking about a painting and some brutal acts of violence.

Great job in making more people appreciate art AND violence, protestors.

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Etna
10/14/22 12:32:08 PM
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I'm gonna go idle the lawnmower for a few hours to counter protest them

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MrToothHasYou
10/14/22 12:40:52 PM
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It is insane to me that these people stood less than a foot away from a painting that was very obviously and clearly protected behind glass, splashed some soup on it and gave their message and the conclusion that like 75% of people seem to be coming to is that they were making a serious, genuine attempt at destroying a piece of fine art. Like I get that you think environmentalists are stupid but do you think they are so stupid to not know what glass is? Do you really think their literal intention was to vandalize the art? And that the actual best they could do with respect to that goal was to pour soup on some glass?

I feel like Im taking crazy pills sometimes. Just a tiny bit of critical thinking here, people, its all I ask of you.

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refmon
10/14/22 12:41:38 PM
#65:


Hinakuluiau posted...
People care more about art than the planet


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Zonbei
10/14/22 12:46:54 PM
#66:


s0nicfan posted...
As someone who believes in climate change, "We will continue to escalate our violence until our demands are met" isn't protesting. It's terrorism. Now, if you want to argue that terrorism is necessary here you go ahead and do that, but let's not mince words.

No, thats literally the point of a protest. To say look. We can do this. Theres this many of us. We are choosing to ask nicely right now. Things will get worse if nothing changes.

All protests are implied threats, if theyre functioning properly. Thats what you have to do when you ask nicely to stop being killed and nobody listens.


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masterpug53
10/14/22 12:48:15 PM
#67:


MrToothHasYou posted...
It is insane to me that these people stood less than a foot away from a painting that was very obviously and clearly protected behind glass, splashed some soup on it and gave their message and the conclusion that like 75% of people seem to be coming to is that they were making a serious, genuine attempt at destroying a piece of fine art. Like I get that you think environmentalists are stupid but do you think they are so stupid to not know what glass is? Do you really think their literal intention was to vandalize the art? And that the actual best they could do with respect to that goal was to pour soup on some glass?

I feel like Im taking crazy pills sometimes. Just a tiny bit of critical thinking here, people, its all I ask of you.

My personal deep-seated contempt for people who threaten irreplaceable fine art for the sake of their contemporary message does not allow such people the benefit of the doubt. It's incredibly difficult for me to see them as anything other than stupid, reckless kids.

Also, this whole notion of 'I can do, say, or deface whatever I want as long as it's raising environmental awareness' absolutely reeks of 'won't someone please think of the children' energy.

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Tom_Joad
10/14/22 12:53:28 PM
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How many solar panels could have been bought with the money used for this stunt?

Could a home have been converted to solar?

Instead, though, their in jail... their message and credibility harmed... and the climate no better off than yesterday.

Great job, protestors.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 12:53:46 PM
#69:


People crying about a panting should be glad this is what we're seeing instead of groups targeting coal, oil, and gas mining and processing facilities.

Truth is if you want to complain about a painting over the shouting to actually fucking dress climate change seriously, you don't care about it enough.

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MrToothHasYou
10/14/22 12:55:59 PM
#70:


masterpug53 posted...
My personal deep-seated contempt for people who threaten irreplaceable fine art for the sake of their contemporary message does not allow such people the benefit of the doubt. It's incredibly difficult for me to see them as anything other than stupid, reckless kids.
Did they actually threaten fine art, though? Or did they deliberately perform an act of vandalism that they knew was never going to endanger any art pieces? Which do you think is what happened?

Also, this whole notion of 'I can do, say, or deface whatever I want as long as it's raising environmental awareness' absolutely reeks of 'won't someone please think of the children' energy.
Again, did they actually deface anything, or are you just imagining that they wanted to because its convenient for you to be able to write them off without any examination?

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CRON
10/14/22 12:56:37 PM
#71:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
People crying about a panting should be glad this is what we're seeing instead of groups targeting coal, oil, and gas mining and processing facilities.

Truth is if you want to complain about a painting over the shouting to actually fucking dress climate change seriously, you don't care about it enough.
There is literally nothing ordinary people can do about climate change. We've been doomed for a while now. The notion that somehow at the last minute we'll get our act together and switch to renewables + other initiatives is just delusional and childish.

This comes off as cringey because it serves no purpose. It's just a group of selfish people deciding to make everything about themselves. They would never protest where any of these fossil fuels are extracted or refined, so they deliberately chose a relatively safe, quiet place where they were guaranteed to receive the most amount of attention. At the end of the day, it boils down to attention.
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Strider102
10/14/22 12:59:50 PM
#72:


I remember the times when people actually protested at oil companies.

It didn't work, but at least it had some meaning to it. Those people were at least out there trying to do something and make a difference.

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masterpug53
10/14/22 1:01:00 PM
#73:


MrToothHasYou posted...
Did they actually threaten fine art, though? Or did they deliberately perform an act of vandalism that they knew was never going to endanger any art pieces? Which do you think is what happened?

Again, did they actually deface anything, or are you just imagining that they wanted to because its convenient for you to be able to write them off without any examination?

I can't stress enough that I don't care what their intent was. I have such a strong personal bias against fine art vandalism that it leaves little to no room for nuance. They blew any chance they had of speaking positively to me personally when they decided to target fine art for their protest.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 1:01:22 PM
#74:


It's amazing to me just how much soup thrown at grass turns grown ass adults into complete cry babies.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 1:03:41 PM
#75:


masterpug53 posted...
I can't stress enough that I don't care what their intent was. I have such a strong personal bias against fine art vandalism that it leaves little to no room for nuance. They blew any chance they had of speaking positively to me personally when they decided to target fine art for their protest.

Fine art can fucking burn. Its nothing more than a racket for the rich to get richer.

Deface every single painting if it comes down to it. Shit has no value if we're all dead and it already barely has any value as it is now.

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CRON
10/14/22 1:09:29 PM
#76:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
It's amazing to me just how much soup thrown at grass turns grown ass adults into complete cry babies.
It's because the protestors clearly just wanted attention and validation. They could have easily assembled somewhere more sensible like where these fossil fuels are extracted or refined. Possibly even the corporate HQs of these companies.

But they instead deliberately chose to deface artwork in a quiet setting where people are expected to be non-confrontational.

Again, there's literally nothing ordinary citizens can do about reversing climate change. It's out of our hands and there's simply too much damage that's been done. This is reality. There won't be a "eureka!" moment where people come to their senses and try to work to stop climate change. In the slight chance that it happens, it'll be too little, too late.
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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 1:11:34 PM
#77:


They didn't even deface artwork so calm the fuck down.

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Strider102
10/14/22 1:13:48 PM
#79:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
They didn't even deface artwork so calm the fuck down.

So it was all pointless in the end. Companies that profit off of oil sit back and laugh at them, the painting is fine and their hands were super glued to a wall.

The planet has been saved.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 1:13:50 PM
#80:


But what? Are people just supposed to just lay down to die like you and that facerolled username are keen to do?

If they started bombing oil refineries is that okay? No? Oh it's terrorism you say? Then they should just harmlessly protest? But I thought that was just for attention?

You just want to silence them. You want to be able to ignore reality and just turn to dust without a care in the world.

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CRON
10/14/22 1:15:18 PM
#81:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
They didn't even deface artwork so calm the fuck down.

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I stand corrected. They "defaced" some glass.

That still doesn't change the fact that the protest wasn't constructive or productive. It brought zero attention to any type of climate concern and seemed to serve to just give the protestors attention. They deliberately chose the most "safe", non-confrontational environment to seek attention.

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Baha05
10/14/22 1:15:48 PM
#82:


Hinakuluiau posted...
We preserve and venerate these paintings of nature and beauty but do nothing to protect the nature and beauty - in fact we actively and passively let companies destroy it slowly. And everything they say is right. People are going hungry, and their houses are cold, and looking for more oil is stupid. Their view is that it is the fault of the people because we do nothing to hold these companies accountable.

Honestly if someone is annoyed that glass had soup poured on it I'm not sure their worth the energy. Personally, I think they're on the right side of history.
Yet wasting perfectly good food that could feed someone is good how?

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MrToothHasYou
10/14/22 1:16:06 PM
#83:


masterpug53 posted...
I can't stress enough that I don't care what their intent was. I have such a strong personal bias against fine art vandalism that it leaves little to no room for nuance. They blew any chance they had of speaking positively to me personally when they decided to target fine art for their protest.
Lmao got it

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Strider102
10/14/22 1:17:12 PM
#84:


Baha05 posted...
Yet wasting perfectly good food that could feed someone is good how?

Something about how it's contributing to saving the world or some shit.

Or it'll be "it's just 2 cans of soup lol, calm down."

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Baha05
10/14/22 1:19:05 PM
#85:


Strider102 posted...
Something about how it's contributing to saving the world or some shit.

Or it'll be "it's just 2 cans of soup lol, calm down."
Lol

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Smashingpmkns
10/14/22 1:19:41 PM
#86:


I absolutely understand it's about getting the message heard but these oil fuckers don't give a shit about art, these museums, or even these donors for the most part. Unless the person who donated that Van Gogh is closely tied to the oil industry this pretty much means nothing to them.

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SuperShake666
10/14/22 1:20:11 PM
#87:


Why Heinz tomato soup? Doesn't Van Gogh deserve something better, like Campbells?

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Hinakuluiau
10/14/22 1:21:48 PM
#88:


Baha05 posted...
Yet wasting perfectly good food that could feed someone is good how?
If it brings attention to the issue then it wasn't a waste.
I like art, I like Van Gogh. But I find people are really weird when it comes to the significance of art. There are literally people in this topic saying that the painting is worth more than human lives or that the damaging of art is one of the greatest sins a person can commit.

I don't know if the protest will be effective, but I can understand what they're going for.

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Maze_
10/14/22 1:24:37 PM
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That guy said "Sec-UR-AT-Tee!" like he was in a musical

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Smashingpmkns
10/14/22 1:26:53 PM
#91:


I'm reading the painting had protective glass (which is the case like 99% of the time really) so I dunno. Didn't really do much still. Nothing to be mad about either way.

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Cubis101
10/14/22 1:27:39 PM
#92:


gunplagirl posted...
That'll show Van Gogh, the man responsible for oil. /s


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Baha05
10/14/22 1:28:44 PM
#93:


Hinakuluiau posted...
If it brings attention to the issue then it wasn't a waste.
I like art, I like Van Gogh. But I find people are really weird when it comes to the significance of art. There are literally people in this topic saying that the painting is worth more than human lives or that the damaging of art is one of the greatest sins a person can commit.

I don't know if the protest will be effective, but I can understand what they're going for.
Except for the fact its not bringing any good attention to the issue and just makes these people look like the biggest pieces of shit.

And yeah for art like that from one of the worlds famous artist to be potentially damaged because people want to try and send a message should get you a decade in prison because art in general plays a significant part of our history so by attempting to damage it is an attack on human culture. These are the same lunatics that would probably do book burnings.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 1:31:52 PM
#94:


"one piece of art is more important than continued survival of humanity"

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Hornswoggled
10/14/22 1:32:04 PM
#95:


There seems to be an increasing amount of people in society who don't see the difference between good and bad attention.
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Baha05
10/14/22 1:33:35 PM
#96:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
"one piece of art is more important than continued survival of humanity"
Or you know stop vandalizing shit to serve your purpose.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 1:34:46 PM
#97:


Baha05 posted...
Or you know stop vandalizing shit to serve your purpose.

Keep doing it. Deface every monument if you have to.

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FaultyCircuitry
10/14/22 1:35:17 PM
#98:


Their purpose is more important than "wahhhh stop vanaalism"

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masterpug53
10/14/22 1:36:01 PM
#99:


Hinakuluiau posted...
If it brings attention to the issue then it wasn't a waste.
I like art, I like Van Gogh. But I find people are really weird when it comes to the significance of art. There are literally people in this topic saying that the painting is worth more than human lives or that the damaging of art is one of the greatest sins a person can commit.

I don't know if the protest will be effective, but I can understand what they're going for.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only person who actually said that in this topic was being sarcastic (or at least attempting to be).

Human lives are irreplaceable. Our shared art history is similarly irreplaceable. People like me who have a strong sense of historical propriety value both, and recognize that both deserve to be protected and preserved. From my perspective, it's the people on the other side of the issue who hold absolutely no value for one of these things. Which is fine, I've made peace with that over the years; I don't expect everyone on the planet, or even most people, to see the value in some musty old cathedral in Paris, or some painting hanging in a gallery half a world away that they're never see in person. But considering that I've already displayed my passion / personal bias on this issue, I will say that I would very much resent being written off as someone who doesn't value human life simply because I also value the preservation of art history.

As an aside, 'Monuments Men' certainly isn't the greatest movie ever made, but it did a pretty good job of touching on the issue of valuing art in a time when countless human lives were at stake.

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Strider102
10/14/22 1:37:19 PM
#100:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
"one piece of art is more important than continued survival of humanity"

I guess most wonder how this will save humanity.

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