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DrizztLink
10/05/22 6:31:51 PM
#102:


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A_Good_Boy
10/05/22 6:37:37 PM
#103:


Mibahlzitch posted...
I'm not even trying to score any goals on the phone thing. I take issue with the strange idea wanting to have fun is somehow unworthy of video games.
I'll admit I jumped the gun when I made my initial posts since I didn't read the article about Blizzard not allowing people with prepaid plans to play, I just think it's weird that there's a demographic of people out there that have a gaming PC but no phone. It's just an odd mismatch of priorities.

Sure that demographic could be mostly children, but if mom and dad are already buying your vidyas then surely they can also supply a cell phone for that person to use too.

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Stalinrules
10/05/22 6:41:31 PM
#104:


A_Good_Boy posted...
I'll admit I jumped the gun when I made my initial posts since I didn't read the article about Blizzard not allowing people with prepaid plans to play, I just think it's weird that there's a demographic of people out there that have a gaming PC but no phone. It's just an odd mismatch of priorities.

Sure that demographic could be mostly children, but if mom and dad are already buying your vidyas then surely they can also supply a cell phone for that person to use too.

An Xbox is a hell of a lot cheaper than a gaming PC.

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A_Good_Boy
10/05/22 6:47:39 PM
#105:


Stalinrules posted...
An Xbox is a hell of a lot cheaper than a gaming PC.
Totally forgot this game was available for consoles. Just Ls all around for me.

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Stalinrules
10/05/22 6:51:17 PM
#106:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Totally forgot this game was available for consoles. Just Ls all around for me.

It's cool, it can be hard to keep track of all this crap and life too.

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ZMythos
10/05/22 6:58:55 PM
#107:


Iodine posted...
How is it possible to have a device to play overwatch on but not have a phone?
Could play at a public library or internet cafe, ig

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Stagmar
10/05/22 8:54:55 PM
#108:


I have a pc capable of playing OW2 or at least I assume it can, but no cellphone. Not because Im too poor to get one, but because I have no need for one.

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Dakimakura
10/05/22 9:00:18 PM
#109:


I can't even play my smurf account that I bought the actual OW1 game with for 50 bucks because I don't have two cell phone numbers. Thanks Blizzard.

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Aztex
10/05/22 9:48:24 PM
#110:


Dakimakura posted...
I can't even play my smurf account that I bought the actual OW1 game with for 50 bucks because I don't have two cell phone numbers. Thanks Blizzard.

That was the purpose of it, to prevent Smurf accounts

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Crazyman93
10/05/22 10:13:43 PM
#111:


Stagmar posted...
I have a pc capable of playing OW2 or at least I assume it can, but no cellphone. Not because Im too poor to get one, but because I have no need for one.
The only people who have no need for a cell phone are all under 15. Unless all you do is sit on your ass at home and don't work, you need a way for people to contact you. Not just friends and family, but important things like say "a job interview".

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Stalinrules
10/05/22 10:21:16 PM
#112:


Crazyman93 posted...
The only people who have no need for a cell phone are all under 15. Unless all you do is sit on your ass at home and don't work, you need a way for people to contact you. Not just friends and family, but important things like say "a job interview".

House phones.

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DrizztLink
10/05/22 10:44:55 PM
#113:


Crazyman93 posted...
The only people who have no need for a cell phone are all under 15. Unless all you do is sit on your ass at home and don't work, you need a way for people to contact you. Not just friends and family, but important things like say "a job interview".
So you still haven't read the article?

Embarrassing.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/05/22 10:53:50 PM
#114:


DrizztLink posted...
So you still haven't read the article?

Embarrassing.

So you still haven't read the posts you're responding to?

Embarassing.

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Kloe_Rinz
10/05/22 10:55:10 PM
#115:


Even poor people have phones. If youre so poor that you are homeless, dont have a PC and dont have a phone, you arent able to play overwatch anyway and should spend money on something to improve your life situation such as a phone

not that a phone requirement is acceptable dont get me wrong. Its just unacceptable for other reasons, its not a punishment for being poor
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Stalinrules
10/05/22 10:56:25 PM
#116:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Even poor people have phones. If youre so poor that you are homeless, dont have a PC and dont have a phone, you arent able to play overwatch anyway and should spend money on something to improve your life situation such as a phone

Who is talking about being homeless?

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Stalinrules
10/05/22 10:56:58 PM
#117:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
So you still haven't read the posts you're responding to?

Embarassing.

Quit being a dick.

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Kloe_Rinz
10/05/22 10:58:49 PM
#118:


Stalinrules posted...
Who is talking about being homeless?
Thats about the level of income you are approaching to not being able to afford a phone
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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/05/22 11:13:37 PM
#119:


Stalinrules posted...
Quit being a dick.

Quoted the wrong post, bud

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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/05/22 11:15:35 PM
#121:


Neat

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DrizztLink
10/05/22 11:27:24 PM
#122:


I did not spend eight seconds being a dick to a shitposter for you to give my credit to Jerry.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/05/22 11:28:50 PM
#123:


DrizztLink posted...
I did not spend eight seconds being a dick to a shitposter for you to give my credit to Jerry.

Killing me softly...

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Stagmar
10/06/22 12:08:21 AM
#124:


Crazyman93 posted...
The only people who have no need for a cell phone are all under 15. Unless all you do is sit on your ass at home and don't work, you need a way for people to contact you. Not just friends and family, but important things like say "a job interview".
38 and I can receive any call I need from my much cheaper landline.

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Crazyman93
10/06/22 2:46:41 AM
#125:


Stagmar posted...
38 and I can receive any call I need from my much cheaper landline.
Yeah, until you need to tell someone you're stuck in traffic.

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Trumble
10/06/22 2:48:34 AM
#126:


MarthGoomba posted...
Not allowing pre-paid phone plans is shitty

Requiring phones in the first place is ultra shitty
Requiring phone verification is fine. Not accepting prepaid is iffy.

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Crazyman93
10/06/22 3:07:37 AM
#127:


Trumble posted...
Requiring phone verification is fine. Not accepting prepaid is iffy.
I imagine their logic is "they're only 30 dollars" so it doesn't actually stop people who are determined.

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thx1138
10/06/22 3:09:31 AM
#128:


Even the poorest of the poor have a phone and number
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thx1138
10/06/22 3:10:40 AM
#129:


How can poor people afford to play games?
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Akagami_Shanks
10/06/22 4:03:31 AM
#130:


the phone requirement has been removed
We designed Overwatch 2 to be a live service, which enables us to be responsive to a variety of player feedback. We have made the decision to remove phone number requirements for a majority of existing Overwatch players. Any Overwatch player with a connected Battle.net account, which includes all players who have played since June 9, 2021, will not have to provide a phone number to play. We are working to make this change and expect it to go live on Friday, October 7. We will update players once it is in effect.

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MrMallard
10/06/22 4:14:42 AM
#131:


It never should have made it to launch tbh. And the fact that they're rolling it back this fast, let alone able to roll it back to this degree at all, only further proves how superfluous and stupid this whole thing is. It was arbitrary and wholly unneeded.

Overwatch 2 is the gift that keeps on giving, because every new piece of news about it makes the game look worse and worse.

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Akagami_Shanks
10/06/22 4:32:53 AM
#132:


it probably opened them up to lawsuits that people couldn't play a game they paid for anymore

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Kim_Seong-a
10/06/22 4:34:28 AM
#133:


Wait Im really late to this whole mess.

OW1 just gets shut down completely? What happens to all the purchases players made on it? Lol

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Kloe_Rinz
10/06/22 4:39:48 AM
#134:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
Wait Im really late to this whole mess.

OW1 just gets shut down completely? What happens to all the purchases players made on it? Lol
Supposedly they transfer across but blizzard released overwatch 2 before that happened so a lot of people or everyone cant access their old stuff anymore for a while. Why didnt they just wait for the migration to complete? Money now is the answer
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frozenstar
10/06/22 4:41:23 AM
#135:


Cant ppl get obama phones?

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Akagami_Shanks
10/06/22 4:45:40 AM
#136:


frozenstar posted...
Cant ppl get obama phones?
Assuming you didn't read the post(I know you didn't) the phone number you get likely wouldn't qualify for SMS protect


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Kloe_Rinz
10/06/22 4:47:12 AM
#137:


The only reason sms protect even exists is because they dont want to pay devs to develop real anti-cheat and a real QA team to test it. Its purely anti-consumer
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Stagmar
10/06/22 8:51:20 AM
#138:


Crazyman93 posted...
Yeah, until you need to tell someone you're stuck in traffic.
They can find out after I get there, just like before cellphones.

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NecroFoul99
10/06/22 9:05:25 AM
#140:


_MorningStar posted...
Wait....what? They don't allow that? Can Blizzard just fucking die already? Why do people hate poor people so much?
Mostly because theyre so goddamn dramatic about everything.

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GiftedACIII
10/06/22 9:07:33 AM
#141:


The-19th-Sparta posted...
At this point, I hope they just defend the decision and enforce it. The majority of the people rampantly crying about this will probably be the type of player to fill one of these archetypes: hesitant to learning (the "I play for fun" crowd), resistant to social interactions despite playing a multiplayer game, serial rage quitter/griefer, a troll, or all of the above.


lol this is some next level gatekeeping. Wanting games to require a phone number to access to keep out the scrubs.

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Lordgold666
10/06/22 9:07:54 AM
#142:


Why wouldnt you want a phone book of mtx whales

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ROBANN_88
10/06/22 9:21:42 AM
#143:


Why do they even require you to give a phone number?

Saying "it's punishment for the poor" is completely the wrong angle when they could have gone for the "needles personal info tracking" argument instead

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R_Jackal
10/06/22 9:21:56 AM
#144:


It's bull that it requires one, let's be honest. If there's one company i would never want to have my phone number it's fucking ActiBlizz.
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Unknown5uspect
10/07/22 11:45:59 AM
#146:


Stagmar posted...
They can find out after I get there, just like before cellphones.
How old are you

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Stagmar
10/07/22 12:17:58 PM
#147:


Unknown5uspect posted...
How old are you

Stagmar posted...
38


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DipDipDiver
10/07/22 12:22:16 PM
#148:


ROBANN_88 posted...
Why do they even require you to give a phone number?

Saying "it's punishment for the poor" is completely the wrong angle when they could have gone for the "needles personal info tracking" argument instead
Yeah it seems like a poor argument when A) even homeless people have phones, and B) if you have a device to play Overwatch on and also have an internet connection to play Overwatch on, you're probably not so poor that having to supply a phone number is somehow an insurmountable obstacle
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Unknown5uspect
10/07/22 12:59:19 PM
#149:


You haven't even been alive long enough to have experienced life before cell phones. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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Stagmar
10/07/22 2:57:54 PM
#150:


What? Sure they were invented before I was born, but I can certainly remember before they became prevalent. Hell, less than half the people in my first year of university had a cell phone.

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10/07/22 3:01:34 PM
#151:


You're the product.
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BurmesePenguin
10/07/22 3:02:22 PM
#152:


Idont understand this punishment angle.

Not everything you cant do is punishment. I guess its kotaku so everything has to be about shitting on some group they then get to defend?
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R_Jackal
10/07/22 3:53:45 PM
#153:


BurmesePenguin posted...
Idont understand this punishment angle.

Not everything you cant do is punishment. I guess its kotaku so everything has to be about shitting on some group they then get to defend?

I mean, in this case I get the reasoning.

F2P games generally have two targets: Those who can't really afford, and those who can afford in excess. The general game plan for them is draw in enough of the whales to support the game so those that don't spend money can continue grinding away/playing, albeit with handicaps--in the hopes one day they'll drop a bit of money on it.

Adding an additional gateway does feel like a bit of punishment to those not wanting to drop money on the game due to their situation(And those saying "You have internet? You have a PC/Console? You can afford a phone." acting like financial situations are fucking steady constantly lmfao is all I got for that.)

Plus, I mean, ActiBlizz is the one company that can universally be seen as the bad guy right now. Like, EA used to be considered the bad guy due to their business practices, as well as Capcom. Seldom do you see a company that is quite as rotten inside and out as ActiBlizz in the gaming industry.

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