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cjsdowg
10/05/22 3:58:40 PM
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Sorry for posting two horrible GOP things so close to each other. But damn

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1577353833835073539

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frozenstar
10/05/22 4:00:20 PM
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Racist white people telling on themselves hard.

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CRON
10/05/22 4:00:36 PM
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Once again, this is one of many awful products of the internet being as affordable and accessible as it is today.

This rhetoric and this message are going to resonate with countless uneducated schmucks who would have zero interest or knowledge in politics if smartphones didn't become affordable in the early 2010s.
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Number090684
10/05/22 4:02:52 PM
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Nah they want people to think they just have a problem with the person who is playing the fish when their problem doesn't involve the fish at all and they could care less about it.
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Irony
10/05/22 4:03:21 PM
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They're mad that this person can tuna fish

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_DonLorenzo
10/05/22 4:03:48 PM
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CRON posted...
Once again, this is one of many awful products of the internet being as affordable and accessible as it is today.

This rhetoric and this message are going to resonate with countless uneducated schmucks who would have zero interest or knowledge in politics if smartphones didn't become affordable in the early 2010s.
lmao wtf
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Lost_All_Senses
10/05/22 4:04:17 PM
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He's right tho. Im slowly starting to forget white people even exist. I have to be reminded on weekends or they're completely erased from my world understanding

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bioshockjack
10/05/22 4:34:44 PM
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No one had a problem when Will Smith was a fish in Shark Tale, why now?

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s0nicfan
10/05/22 4:37:18 PM
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Let's split the difference and recast Ariel to be played by Ariana Grande:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/6/AABJX0AADv46.jpg

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cjsdowg
10/05/22 5:17:06 PM
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bioshockjack posted...
No one had a problem when Will Smith was a fish in Shark Tale, why now?

Will Smith was the safe black guy. Until he stood up for his wife.

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Lost_All_Senses
10/05/22 5:27:00 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Let's split the difference and recast Ariel to be played by Ariana Grande:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/6/AABJX0AADv46.jpg

Lol. That's good. Shared it.

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mybbqrules
10/05/22 8:35:47 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/4/AAUg1tAADv7s.jpg
jeffhardyb0ys posted this the other day, I totally stole it.

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cuttin_in_farm
10/05/22 8:40:53 PM
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I.. Dunno why the most racist dudes stereotypically pronounce white like that.

Its like a massive tell.

Its also weird how he tossed that stop shooting eachother. And us shit in there.

Like, how does this dude interact irl with folks? Saturday cartoon villain energy.

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Umbreon
10/05/22 8:43:51 PM
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mybbqrules posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/4/AAUg1tAADv7s.jpg
jeffhardyb0ys posted this the other day, I totally stole it.


Saving that.

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DoesntMatter
10/05/22 9:30:01 PM
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does this delusional racist bullshit really need to be posted here

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PoundGarden
10/05/22 9:46:45 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
does this delusional racist bullshit really need to be posted here

Yes. It's important to put their idiocy on display so people who feel the concern over the rise in white nationalism is being overblown and sensationalized for ratings can see that yes, it really is fucking happening.

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Mistere_Man
10/05/22 9:48:19 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
He's right tho. Im slowly starting to forget white people even exist. I have to be reminded on weekends or they're completely erased from my world understanding
You said you would remember me you liar! (Fades into nothingness)

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RISEofCHRISTIAN
10/05/22 9:56:12 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Let's split the difference and recast Ariel to be played by Ariana Grande:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/6/AABJX0AADv46.jpg

Ariana is actually my #1 pick to play Ariel.

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rexcrk
10/05/22 9:57:26 PM
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Did we need another topic talking about this?

Like, you couldnt have posted your thoughts in one of the other million topics about Black Ariel?


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Bishop9800
10/05/22 10:00:08 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/1/0/AAB1wnAADv8a.jpg

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Lost_All_Senses
10/05/22 10:55:42 PM
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Mistere_Man posted...
You said you would remember me you liar! (Fades into nothingness)

I can still see you on the weekends!

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Tenaku
10/05/22 11:26:38 PM
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Haven't discussed this topic for a while, but now's as good a time as any to jump back in. First things first.

"There can't be a black mermaid."
"YES, there can be a black mermaid."

Is this a real discussion that's actually going on right now? One that's loud, vocal, and popular enough to be a relevant topic? Because it just sounds like a really desperate or lazy strawman meant to distract away from the REAL topic that the majority of complaints are actually about.
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Umbreon
10/05/22 11:49:16 PM
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Tenaku posted...
Is this a real discussion that's actually going on right now?

If you've been paying attention, you'd know that it is.

Tenaku posted...
Because it just sounds like a really desperate or lazy strawman meant to distract away from the REAL topic that the majority of complaints are actually about.

Which would be...?

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Rathinor
10/05/22 11:52:07 PM
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Tenaku posted...
the REAL topic that the majority of complaints are actually about.
Your perceived white victimhood?
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Tenaku
10/06/22 12:05:18 AM
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Umbreon posted...
Which would be...?

Black ARIEL.

Rathinor posted...
Your perceived white victimhood?

I ain't white, you fool.
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Umbreon
10/06/22 12:08:11 AM
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Tenaku posted...
Black ARIEL.


What about her?

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Smashingpmkns
10/06/22 12:09:44 AM
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"Sick and sickening adoration for blacks" is like a top 10 most racist modern quotes.

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cjsdowg
10/06/22 1:02:54 AM
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Tenaku posted...


I ain't white, you fool.

So your by proxy white victimhood?

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Tenaku
10/06/22 1:25:40 AM
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Umbreon posted...
What about her?

White TIANA.

Try replying with the same question.

cjsdowg posted...
So your by proxy white victimhood?

Why don't you try the "White TIANA" challenge I just wrote above. The let's see if "by proxy BLACK victimhood" might come up.
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Gremlynn
10/06/22 1:31:55 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
I.. Dunno why the most racist dudes stereotypically pronounce white like that.

Its like a massive tell.

Not giving the racist trash clicks to hear... how DOES he pronounce "white"?

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Umbreon
10/06/22 1:33:45 AM
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Tenaku posted...
White TIANA.

Try replying with the same question.

What about her?


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Fluttershy
10/06/22 1:34:00 AM
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Not giving the racist trash clicks to hear... how DOES he pronounce "white"?

you know that family guy joke where they're like 'cool hwip'? that way.

also coming into this topic i thought it was about the instrument.

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Popcorn2000
10/06/22 1:36:26 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Let's split the difference and recast Ariel to be played by Ariana Grande:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/6/AABJX0AADv46.jpg


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cjsdowg
10/06/22 1:49:28 AM
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Tenaku posted...


Why don't you try the "White TIANA" challenge I just wrote above. The let's see if "by proxy BLACK victimhood" might come up.

You think taking away THE black princess is the same thing as swapping one of the many white ones?

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Tenaku
10/06/22 1:54:53 AM
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Umbreon posted...
What about her?

So if you don't see any problem with it, does that mean you're okay with it?

cjsdowg posted...
You think taking away THE black princess is the same thing as swapping one of the many white ones?

And if I said no, you gonna call me "by proxy BLACK victimhood"?
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Umbreon
10/06/22 1:58:44 AM
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Tenaku posted...
So if you don't see any problem with it, does that mean you're okay with it?

Sure.

So what's so upsetting about a black mermaid again?

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bobbaaay
10/06/22 2:08:26 AM
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The whole thing is dumb af.
The people complaining about the complaining are assuming that every single person who doesn't support the change is a racist, which is just another example of the simple minded hyperbole we get from the left all the time. They're right that Ariel's race has nothing to do with her character, though. They're also right that all the Malcolm X / Black Panther / Tiana comparisons are very, very stupid and lack any basic comprehension.
The people against the change aren't all racist, even if some on the right are. Some of them have some weird ass nostalgia to some mediocre Disney film from their childhood and don't like change. They make valid points that all the live action remakes are lazy, though - and that Disney should be creating new IPs instead of lazily rehashing older millennial nostalgia.

Really, though, Disney is garbage and parents should just be encouraging their kids to be watching better films rather than gobbling up Disney crap. But I guess these are the same parents that don't know shows and films exist elsewhere than Netflix and Disney+.
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Tenaku
10/06/22 2:10:57 AM
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Umbreon posted...
Sure.

So what's so upsetting about a black mermaid again?

You're replacing ARIEL with "mermaid" again.
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Umbreon
10/06/22 2:12:05 AM
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bobbaaay posted...
They make valid points that all the live action remakes are lazy, though - and that Disney should be creating new IPs instead of lazily rehashing older millennial nostalgia.


The problem is, why is Little Mermaid getting extra strength hate compared to other live remakes?

Lion King didn't get this much hate, and that sure as fuck is more nostalgia than Little Mermaid ever was.

Mulan remake outright butchered the story, yet still received less hate from the usual suspects.

Not everyone against the mermaid remake is racist, but why is this remake getting the most hate?

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Umbreon
10/06/22 2:12:34 AM
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Tenaku posted...
You're replacing ARIEL with "mermaid" again.

What's upsetting about a black Ariel again?

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bobbaaay
10/06/22 2:16:19 AM
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Umbreon posted...
The problem is, why is Little Mermaid getting extra strength hate compared to other live remakes?

Lion King didn't get this much hate, and that sure as fuck is more nostalgia than Little Mermaid ever was.

Mulan remake outright butchered the story, yet still received less hate from the usual suspects.

Not everyone against the mermaid remake is racist, but why is this remake getting the most hate?

I thought both DID get a lot of hate? I remember seeing the Lion King being very divisive and some people completely trashing it, and some people (like my girlfriend) loving it.
I also never saw anybody say anything positive about the Mulan remake.

It's just easier to attach a political narrative to this, and I'm sure the critics being criticized are probably doubling down on their opinions to try and prove they're "not racist" after being accused of it. I could be wrong, though.
There definitely are people on the right that are racist, and their opinion is fueled by racism. I'd agree there.
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Tenaku
10/06/22 2:21:03 AM
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Umbreon posted...
What's upsetting about a black Ariel again?

Same thing that's upsetting about white Tiana. If you're gonna give us the same character with the same name, then give us the same character with the same name. This applies more if the character is the main, and even more depending on the character's iconic status.
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MarcyWarcy
10/06/22 2:22:46 AM
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Umbreon posted...
What's upsetting about a black Ariel again?

some people get angry when they are black people in things so they have to pretend theyre really invested in the sanctity of cartoon character ethnicity
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Tenaku
10/06/22 2:24:19 AM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
some people get angry when they are black people in things so they have to pretend theyre really invested in the sanctity of cartoon character ethnicity

You weren't following our conversation from the beginning, were you?
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thx1138
10/06/22 2:27:38 AM
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The actor only needs red hair, skin color doesnt matter
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Umbreon
10/06/22 2:33:32 AM
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bobbaaay posted...
I thought both DID get a lot of hate? I remember seeing the Lion King being very divisive and some people completely trashing it, and some people (like my girlfriend) loving it.
I also never saw anybody say anything positive about the Mulan remake.

Both received criticism to be sure, but neither trailer got anywhere near the hate as the Little Mermaid trailer did. For some reason.

Tenaku posted...
Same thing that's upsetting about white Tiana. If you're gonna give us the same character with the same name, then give us the same character with the same name. This applies more if the character is the main, and even more depending on the character's iconic status.


Remakes are allowed to switch things up. I also have my doubts grown ass men care this much about Ariel in general. She's well liked, but typically never the "favorite" among the group that's whining the loudest.

Though personally I would think the personality of the character was more important than their skin color.

Especially since Disney's Little Mermaid already deviated from the original story. Hell, "Ariel" didn't even have a name. That was some bullshit Disney invented. For some reason, no one objected to this change to the story.

But this is where you claim "People aren't nostalgic for the original!".

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Umbreon
10/06/22 2:36:34 AM
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Tenaku posted...
You weren't following our conversation from the beginning, were you?


I mean... your first post questions whatever or not many people are actually complaining about the mermaid being black or not. You expressed doubt about it and believe the REAL issue is...

the fact Ariel's skin color was changed...

Huh.


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bobbaaay
10/06/22 2:37:52 AM
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I wish there was an animated film based on the original story and it was just as dark.
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