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Bad_Mojo
09/29/22 5:01:14 PM
#1:


Do you think rap is better if you're intelligent?


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Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I'm talking about the fans, not the people making the music. The fans of rap have a higher IQ than average thanks to everything you need to know outside of just the music to enjoy it, and understanding the double meanings of lyrics, and all the pop culture, all the human history, important people, God, ect

Between the word play, pop culture references, double and triple rhymes schemes and mixing it all together with samples and beats, I have to say that to really appreciate rap you have to be a lot smarter than average.

I'm sure other with argue things like classical piano, and I'm exited to read them

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WorsCaseOntario
09/29/22 5:03:14 PM
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No lol

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Bad_Mojo
09/29/22 5:05:05 PM
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WorsCaseOntario posted...
No lol

Can you explain to me why you think that, please?

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googs19
09/29/22 5:06:03 PM
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That opinion has real "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" vibes.
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I4NRulez
09/29/22 5:06:48 PM
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I love Rap but no.

I know a lot of great musicians and Rap for sure has better lyrics but its a lot harder to make a songs in other genres then it is rap.

Like just listen to Blues. That shit is insane.

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Bad_Mojo
09/29/22 5:07:26 PM
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googs19 posted...
That opinion has real "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" vibes.

Can you explain to me what music you think is smarter? I'm honestly want to hear your opinions on this. Because I can argue all day about why I think rap is

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SSJKirby
09/29/22 5:08:24 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Because I can argue all day about why rap is
why would you want to, why can't you just enjoy what you like without needing a sense of superiority

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Heartomaton
09/29/22 5:09:33 PM
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Nah.

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Bad_Mojo
09/29/22 5:10:12 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
I know a lot of great musicians and Rap for sure has better lyrics but its a lot harder to make a songs in other genres then it is rap.

Like just listen to Blues. That shit is insane.

Ahhhh - got it. I didn't make it clear what I was talking about. I'm talking about the fans to listen to it. WE have to be smarter to enjoy rap. Not the people doing the music. Going to edit the opening post

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FaultyCircuitry
09/29/22 5:11:32 PM
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IQ isn't real and people should stop pushing it because it's got some fucked racist origins.

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I4NRulez
09/29/22 5:11:41 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Ahhhh - got it. I didn't make it clear what I was talking about. I'm talking about the fans to listen to it. WE have to be smarter to enjoy rap. Not the people doing the music. Going to edit the opening post

I still dont agree. like 90% of rap is very surface level.

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MedeaLysistrata
09/29/22 5:13:42 PM
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i like music with words more than music without words... but i think all the things you have described exist in other kinds of music with words.

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Bad_Mojo
09/29/22 5:14:15 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
I still dont agree. like 90% of rap is very surface level.

Okay, that's fair.

I'm trying to get more into Blues if you want to give me some great music to listen to. I'm playing Clone Hero right now and playing some Blues songs on there and learning more and more.

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Bad_Mojo
09/29/22 5:16:14 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
why would you want to, why can't you just enjoy what you like without needing a sense of superiority


Bad_Mojo posted...
I'm exited to read them

Like I said, I want to get more into other music genres

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Murphiroth
09/29/22 5:36:16 PM
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googs19 posted...
That opinion has real "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" vibes.


SSJKirby posted...
why would you want to, why can't you just enjoy what you like without needing a sense of superiority

These.
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Bad_Mojo
09/29/22 5:39:43 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
These.

I asked for opinions because I want to enjoy more music

I have gotten 1 opinion so far.

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Giant_Aspirin
09/29/22 5:43:33 PM
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you make it sound like hip hop is the only style of music to use wordplay in the lyrics ....

also, there is a TON of very low-IQ hip hop out there that just talks about rims, money, bitches and general ignorant-ass stuff like shooting other people

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Bad_Mojo
09/29/22 5:50:31 PM
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Thank you, everyone, for answering my question

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Big_Nabendu
09/29/22 5:58:08 PM
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Can't stand rap. At all.

I myself like chord progressions and harmonies.

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God_of_6strings
09/29/22 5:59:13 PM
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The lyrics part, yes.
The music part, no.
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AloneIBreak
09/29/22 6:00:49 PM
#21:


Bad_Mojo posted...
thanks to everything you need to know outside of just the music to enjoy it, and understanding the double meanings of lyrics, and all the pop culture, all the human history, important people, God, ect
Your premise is flawed. None of this do you need to enjoy hip hop/rap.

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crayola555
09/29/22 6:02:28 PM
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Old school hip hop maybe, NOT the stuff they are putting out now

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ellis123
09/29/22 6:05:49 PM
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Show tunes, by their very nature, are at bare minimum smarter than rap. Double meanings make rap smart? That is the literal base-level of a show tune; not even a smart one at that.

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g0ldie
09/29/22 6:08:54 PM
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I personally don't feel that the art someone enjoys necessarily makes them more intelligent, as a number of things (conditioning, access, positive/negative reinforcement when considering that art, etc.) can go into why that person likes or dislikes it.

as far as rap goes, it's my favorite genre, but there's a bunch of stuff I can enjoy at "base" level, even if I miss out on some of the wordplay, cultural references, and so on; it could just sound good to me.

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Disengaged
09/29/22 6:08:56 PM
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Your premise doesn't pan out.

It's the equivalent of thinking you are smarter than someone else because you both had to play the 'guess what's in my hand game' and you won because you were given a sheet with everything that would be in the hand, and the other person was not.

Also this is not something that is exclusive to rap.... This smells of a dunning Kruger conclusion, where you are able to recognize the references from your favourite rap songs, and know there is more to the lyrics, but don't know anything being referenced in other songs and assume there is nothing else to it.


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Ratchetrockon
09/29/22 6:12:20 PM
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Prob because it is currently the most popular form of music atm. larger pool of fans means higher chance of some really high iq ppl in the mix

Edit: nevermind it seems like it only the #2 most popular genre. Seems like pop music is more popular . So nah highest iq music is pop like Taylor swift and k pop

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TheGoldenEel
09/29/22 7:22:16 PM
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Idk about the premise of this topic, but a lot of even so-called lowest common denominator rappers like Lil Wayne for example have extremely clever bars that demonstrate way better use of the English language than theyre given credit for

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Joelypoely
09/29/22 7:38:05 PM
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For me it depends on the instrumentation. I think other genres demonstrate deeper lyricism (e.g. certain rock songs). But rap done well produces an impressive rhyming effect. This is the kind of rap I find appealing:

https://youtu.be/Y4HWvsGs0rY

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FaultyCircuitry
09/29/22 8:08:32 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
lowest common denominator rappers like Lil Wayne

ummmmm

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11110111011
09/29/22 8:11:32 PM
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The exact opposite is true, in fact.
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FaultyCircuitry
09/29/22 8:11:58 PM
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11110111011 posted...
The exact opposite is true, in fact.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/8/AAYVThAADpTi.jpg

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TheGoldenEel
09/29/22 8:14:05 PM
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FaultyCircuitry posted...
ummmmm
So-called

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ShineboxPhil
09/29/22 8:17:02 PM
#33:


People here obviously can't appreciate the lyrical genius of chief keef
https://youtu.be/YWyHZNBz6FE

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ellis123
09/29/22 8:19:13 PM
#34:


ShineboxPhil posted...
People here obviously can't appreciate the lyrical genius of chief keef
https://youtu.be/YWyHZNBz6FE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jag7oTemldY

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Glob
09/29/22 8:21:14 PM
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Given some of the people I know who like rap have been thick as fuck, Im going to go with a solid no.
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WellBye
09/29/22 8:21:59 PM
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My favorite rappers in no real order:

Epic Rap Battles of History
Naughty by Nature
Beastie Boys
Cypress Hill
Eminem (only his stuff up to about 2001-ish)
Blondie
Dee Dee King
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ShineboxPhil
09/29/22 8:25:40 PM
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ellis123 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jag7oTemldY

No
Love Sosa is a legit track.

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