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FatalAccident 09/15/22 5:46:19 AM #1: |
Whats the law theyre passing all about? Whats the point of the new laws? --- *walks away* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 09/15/22 6:01:08 AM #2: |
Seems like its time for Gamers to rise up! --- Fifty years from now when you're looking back on your life, don't you want to say you had the guts to get in the car? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hera 09/15/22 7:07:51 AM #3: |
it's to relax criminal offenses the state is majority republican outside of chicago, so you can imagine what's going on but uh, it also happened last year. it's back in the news because of conservative misinformation on how the bail changes work. https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/illinois-safe-t-act-end-cash-bail-2023/63-ab549815-8ab9-4db6-af62-5d6ca1107317 --- send you my love on a wire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TLR_ 09/15/22 7:13:08 AM #4: |
We tryna be the next Fallout game, basically. --- My Game Collection/Backlog (Incomplete!): https://howlongtobeat.com/user?n=BishopTakesKing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 09/15/22 10:18:15 AM #5: |
I was trying to post a joke about how Illinois is a red state by posting a picture of Illinois Ave from Monopoly but it won't post --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 09/15/22 11:25:09 AM #6: |
Get ride of the useless S --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Straughan 09/15/22 11:49:11 AM #7: |
They're whining about it on tiktok as if it's gonna be "The Purge" and they're gonna just gonna release criminals for 2nd degree murder. Then they're saying in Detriot that law enforcement is being told to stand down when lots of murders happen. I figured it was just the same old tiktok conspiracy bullshit that has like 25% truth and 75% bullshit. There was a guy arguing with me in the comments saying we always say it's not true then it's not happening like you say then ok maybe it is true and then we say it's ok. I've heard others accuse fellow dems of the same shit. I mean maybe that is true, but if you're asking people why would it matter? People don't create this stuff. The natural evolution is to be skeptical incredulous and then learn and understand. --- Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process they do not become a monster. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nichtcrawler-X 09/15/22 11:49:25 AM #8: |
Any links that are not just white pages with "Access Denied"? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 09/15/22 11:53:22 AM #9: |
It just changes the way cash bail operates so poor people aren't sitting in jail for a year or more while they await trial for crimes they committed. Cash bail only affects poor people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ParanoidObsessive 09/15/22 4:11:29 PM #10: |
Straughan posted... They're whining about it on tiktok as if it's gonna be "The Purge" The world would probably be a much better place if we could just purge most of the people on TikTok. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hera 09/15/22 7:02:20 PM #11: |
also, it's entirely up to the judge so no, they're not letting murderers out --- send you my love on a wire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Straughan 09/15/22 7:41:02 PM #12: |
Let's face it, if they did something batshit, people would raise immortal hell. --- Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process they do not become a monster. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KodyKeir 09/16/22 1:50:09 AM #13: |
Sounds like needed bail reform. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 09/16/22 2:00:52 AM #14: |
can't be worse than L.A. --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FatalAccident 09/16/22 3:18:03 AM #15: |
Any non sensationalist videos explaining this? Everything on YouTube Im seeing about it is wild --- *walks away* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ozmose 09/16/22 8:02:24 AM #16: |
It basically comes down to this. Outside of first degree murder and most sex crimes, people can't be held on cash bail unless one of these circumstances apply.
--- Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. - Oscar Wilde ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hera 09/16/22 12:03:58 PM #17: |
i literally explained it to you --- send you my love on a wire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FatalAccident 09/16/22 1:33:04 PM #18: |
hera posted... i literally explained it to youbro chill out --- *walks away* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 09/16/22 1:43:49 PM #19: |
FatalAccident posted... Any non sensationalist videos explaining this? Everything on YouTube Im seeing about it is wild Yeah I mean I explained it too lol what further clarification do you need? I'd be happy to answer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FatalAccident 09/16/22 5:16:16 PM #20: |
Jen0125 posted... Yeah I mean I explained it too lol what further clarification do you need? I'd be happy to answerYeah you did lol, not that you guys didnt explain it well enough tbh, suppose I was more curious to see how its being reported that side without the sensationalism. Literally everything on YouTube is TikTok levels of sensationalist, with the obvious purge parallels. Im guessing that just attracts more clicks --- *walks away* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KodyKeir 09/16/22 5:20:50 PM #21: |
FatalAccident posted... Literally everything on YouTube is TikTok levels of sensationalist, with the obvious purge parallels. Im guessing that just attracts more clicks People are not moved by fair, considered, thoughtful opinion, they are moved by outrage that demands their immediate action. It takes time and care to explain the truth while anyone can entice rage. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 09/16/22 5:25:03 PM #22: |
FatalAccident posted... Yeah you did lol, not that you guys didnt explain it well enough tbh, suppose I was more curious to see how its being reported that side without the sensationalism. Yeah it's hard to wade through the muck anymore ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 09/16/22 5:26:14 PM #23: |
https://abc7chicago.com/cash-bail-illinois-safe-t-act-safety-criminal-justice-reform/12232413/ Here's a local news article that talks about the issue and the reactions from the differing parties ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FatalAccident 09/17/22 12:44:42 AM #24: |
Okay thanks that link def helps, especially the video. But fuck me the issue is complicated. So I get the idea that you dont want poor people languishing in jail for months or years awaiting trial because they cant afford bail. But how are they defining flight risk? And this works great if the courts are willing to bring people to trial quicker but I see nothing saying that side of things will change. Also I totally get youre innocent until proven guilty, but what about those cases where somebody has like really obviously committed the crime. Like the fucker has been caught in the act of kidnapping someone and theres no doubt. Theyd still send him home awaiting trial free to reoffend whilst hes out there? And again I get in the eyes of the law hes still technically innocent until hes stood trial and pronounced guilty but seems like a lot of bad people are gonna get let loose depending on how theyre defining this. But I suppose all youre really doing is affording these offenders the same benefit that a rich offender already has lmao --- *walks away* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KodyKeir 09/17/22 12:49:06 AM #25: |
FatalAccident posted... what about those cases where somebody has like really obviously committed the crime. Like the fucker has been caught in the act of kidnapping someone and theres no doubt. Would not have been granted bail with those circumstances unless they were extremely wealthy. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hera 09/17/22 1:29:36 AM #26: |
FatalAccident posted... Okay thanks that link def helps, especially the video. But fuck me the issue is complicated. hera posted... also, it's entirely up to the judge --- send you my love on a wire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 09/17/22 9:48:33 AM #27: |
FatalAccident posted... Also I totally get youre innocent until proven guilty, but what about those cases where somebody has like really obviously committed the crime. There was still cash bail for those situations. That's why it only affects the poor. Is it equitable for a rich man to commit a crime and be able to easily afford cash bail to be released when a low income person who committed the same crime can't? So person A can pay their way out of jail pending trial but person B can't all because of finances? That's not fair or equitable. Is the poor person more or less of a flight risk than the financially well off person? Where will they go? Likely what will happen is they will have to check in with something similar to a parole officer or they will be monitored with an ankle bracelet. That would make the most sense. Then they can still work and survive instead of languishing in a jail cell pending trial for a crime they may not have even committed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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