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No hate but I always thought it was meh, or was I just a dumb kid who couldnt appreciate the finer aspects of the game?

Seaman_Prime posted...

was I just a dumb kid who couldnt appreciate the finer aspects of the game?

Yes

It was fun killing your friends and the missions were a good time. I 100%'d that shit back in the day and really don't have any desire to do that again, but I might torment my kid with proxy mines for an afternoon.

nostalgia. being a kid with your homies playing goldeneye 1v1v1v1 was hella fun back in the day. yelling at people for picking oddjob, knives only, karate chops only. good times.

It was fun but I wouldn't bother with it again. Most games from that era aged like milk.

Nostalgia

it's fun enough to speedrun and temple slapfights are a classic

framerate is painfully bad at times though

It was pretty damn great back in the day but I don't think it has aged well. I'm hoping the new version has some QoL improvements

It was a very innovative FPS for consoles.

It may well be the game which has aged the worst in the entire history of gaming.

Back in the day, it was great. Now that the genre has been significantly refined, it feels almost unplayable.

Weed and couch co-op was half of my teenage years

It was an amazing movie to game game. You had all the levels straight from the movie. You have all the fun mission based objectives. The music was great. The gameplay was fun. Unlocking cheats by speedrunning is a lot of fun, imo, and no one has really made anything like it since. It's just a sweet ass game

It was like the first truly big console FPS. Something you could plug in and have your friends kill each other with relative ease. Before Goldeneye, if you wanted to play multi-player in an FPS you had to like LAN-party it. It was fairly limiting. Goldeneye opened up the FPS genre to a much broader market.

But yeah, its gameplay wasn't even all that refined for its time, especially when compared to its PC contemporaries. And it certainly doesn't hold up anymore outside of nostalgia.

It's just a really good game

Nostalgia.

I also played the absolute bullshit out of it for its time with my brother and two nephews so I have a lot of great memories with it. The gameplay definitely does not hold up these days.

Perfect dark is a much better game and we all bought that on re-release for the xbox 360....going down nostalgia lane is fun for about 45 minutes, but then that feeling of "wow......it did not age gracefully" hits, lol

Its a good game but Perfect Dark is superior.

Crescente posted...

It was an amazing movie to game game. You had all the levels straight from the movie. You have all the fun mission based objectives. The music was great. The gameplay was fun. Unlocking cheats by speedrunning is a lot of fun, imo, and no one has really made anything like it since. It's just a sweet ass game

I remember reading in Nintendo Power or something, they used actual set blueprints from the movie which is pretty neat.

Dragon posted...

Its a good game but Perfect Dark is superior.

Doubt

If it got a real remaster and not a remake with dual analog controls I think people could fall in love with it all over again. It did wonders for Perfect Dark.

First FPS for many people who didn't have access to a gaming pc in the 90s

I did. So when I tried Goldeneye at a cousin's house , I was like ".......this is it?"

Oddjob....enough said....

bulletproofvita posted...

Doubt

Perfect Dark is good, it added more modern features like alternate firing modes such as disarming for fists and 3-shot burst for the game's version of the Klobb as well as voice acting and more multi-player modes including co-op.

I prefer Perfect Dark, but Goldeneye has a TON of content and replayability. It's much more than just nostalgia.
Though, I don't think the controls were great even for its time.

The counter co-op mode alone in perfect dark was more fun than anything goldeneye had, lol. The alt. fire for guns and stuff like laptop guns was cool.

Man I wish more games would have a similar mode to counter co-op. One of the things I liked about resident evil 6 actually was because of agent hunt.

*Souls series carries that counter co-op torch, so thats nice*.

Cause it's a legit great game that only has framerate issues?

Most other complaints are because people don't like that it doesn't play like modern shooters.

ChocoboMogALT posted...

Though, I don't think the controls were great even for its time.

Controls were fine honestly, at least for the campaign. The aim-assist was so generous that you could get through 99% of the game as long as you were just looking in an enemy's general direction. >__>

I feel like I'm in bizarro world every time someone says perfect dark was better. I remember that game being weird and impossible to see anything. The laptop turret thing was cool though.

toadfan64 posted...

Cause it's a legit great game that only has framerate issues?

Most other complaints are because people don't like that it doesn't play like modern shooters.

That is the main complaint, yeah, but I dont feel like its that easy to dismiss. The reason that modern shooters play the way they do and nobody is making games that play like goldeneye is because modern control schemes are better.

Glob posted...

That is the main complaint, yeah, but I dont feel like its that easy to dismiss. The reason that modern shooters play the way they do and nobody is making games that play like goldeneye is because modern control schemes are better.

I mean dual analog controls are fine (which you could technically do in Goldeneye) but so are the general controls in Goldeneye. Hell, the strafing with the c buttons is kind of a more enjoyable way to play to me. And the framerate would rarely drop to truly unplayable levels.

Crescente posted...

It was an amazing movie to game game. You had all the levels straight from the movie. You have all the fun mission based objectives. The music was great. The gameplay was fun. Unlocking cheats by speedrunning is a lot of fun, imo, and no one has really made anything like it since. It's just a sweet ass game

Perfect Dark clears

For a lot of console players it was the first good multiplayer fps. We had doom on a few systems but I don't recall multiplayer and the console versions where gimped. And why doom is super fun it's also super simple. Golden eye had laying traps actually being able to aim (as wonky as it is it was the best on console at the time iirc)

So nostalgia. It was a 9/10 game for its day. But I'm sure it's aged like milk sitting out in the sun on a summer day

toadfan64 posted...

I mean dual analog controls are fine (which you could technically do in Goldeneye) but so are the general controls in Goldeneye. Hell, the strafing with the c buttons is kind of a more enjoyable way to play to me. And the framerate would rarely drop to truly unplayable levels.

If the N64 controller had a C button set up like the GameCube and was in a comfortable position Ithink more people would be saying that the game aged like wine and not milk.

pinky0926 posted...

I feel like I'm in bizarro world every time someone says perfect dark was better. I remember that game being weird and impossible to see anything. The laptop turret thing was cool though.

Nah, you live in bizarro world because you think it isn't. Better graphics, more features, more optimized aiming, better levels, voice acting, blood, responsive AI (injured limbs, shooting guns out of their hands, swapping guns, surrendering), better multiplayer (more levels, bots, more guns, more gametypes, challenges, etc), firing range, counter co-op/regular co-op (with bots too), secondary fire for all guns, better cheats, and more

You're living in nostalgia if you think Goldeneye was better

Because babbys first 1st person shooter!

No thats actually kind of true for me though Probably wouldnt like it if I played it for the first time today, but it was so fun back in the day and I still like to have the boys over for Goldeneye every once in a while.

Seaman_Prime posted...

No hate but I always thought it was meh, or was I just a dumb kid who couldnt appreciate the finer aspects of the game?

Yes. It was the best first person shooter until Half-Life came out.

Compsognathus posted...

It was like the first truly big console FPS. Something you could plug in and have your friends kill each other with relative ease. Before Goldeneye, if you wanted to play multi-player in an FPS you had to like LAN-party it. It was fairly limiting. Goldeneye opened up the FPS genre to a much broader market.

But yeah, its gameplay wasn't even all that refined for its time, especially when compared to its PC contemporaries. And it certainly doesn't hold up anymore outside of nostalgia.

This.

I used to play Duke Nukem over LAN at my buddies. Had 3 PCs set up in different rooms. Good times.

pinky0926 posted...

I feel like I'm in bizarro world every time someone says perfect dark was better. I remember that game being weird and impossible to see anything. The laptop turret thing was cool though.

It's cause Perfect Dark is better and has way more going for it than Goldeneye does. Just watch out for Nbombs

I'll still play Goldeneye from time to time. It's just really fun.

Kaldrenthebold posted...

It's cause Perfect Dark is better and has way more going for it than Goldeneye does. Just watch out for Nbombs

Bruh

Yes, I know it's just referring to a weapon lol.

I still enjoy it but most definitely not on its original hardware.

All Rare titles were too technologically ambitious for that weak 64-bit/8MB RAM console but that's also why they're so still treasured for what they are today.

BuckVanHammer posted...

I 100%'d that shit back in the day and really don't have any desire to do that again

Took me almost 19 years to do that. Like you, I have no desire to do it again, but it's one of my proudest achievements.

Because when you win with the largest character, you can smirk

Multiplayer was THE after-school game, mad fun. It had a lot of cheats/codes the made it even more fun. It was also one of the first console shooters that wasn't complete uncontrollable garbage.

Kim_Seong-a posted...

Controls were fine honestly, at least for the campaign. The aim-assist was so generous that you could get through 99% of the game as long as you were just looking in an enemy's general direction. >__>

That's a large part of the problem, IMO. Speedrunning, which is a necessary portion of the game, comes down to abusing aim assist (until you get to the point where aim assist gets in your way), strafing while looking away from the "action", and memorizing a set of controller movements. You don't have to play perfectly to unlock everything, but it's pretty tight.
Try playing as a complete newb, you'll be begging to aim better while strafing. It's why Halo feels like such an upgrade.

Da one thing I could never do is beat da Facility on 00 in 2:05.

I think people are nostalgic towards it because it really was one of the first (along with Mario Kart 64) "pick up and play" multiplayer games.

Yes, the NES had the 4 player adapter, but very few games that were worth playing.

Golden Eye was the kind of game a group of both gamers and non-gamers could get together and enjoy the same game at the same time.

Kinda like the reason why Wii Sports became as popular as it did. Multiple players could play at the same time, and it was so easy, even Grandma knew how to play Wii Tennis.

The people loving it haven't played it in over 20 years

Irony posted...

The people loving it haven't played it in over 20 years

Oh, it definitely doesn't hold up.

But neither do many games we're nostalgic about.

Irony posted...

The people loving it haven't played it in over 20 years

Played it and beat it 5 years ago and it's still one of my top 10 favorite games.

Irony posted...

The people loving it haven't played it in over 20 years

People LOVE saying this stuff whenever others are speaking fondly of an old game.

I dont see how its so difficult to accept that people just like something.