Poll of the Day > 2 shot at park in Uvalde

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Jen0125
09/08/22 8:08:27 PM
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https://www.kens5.com/article/news/local/police-on-scene-following-reports-of-shooting-in-uvalde-news/273-1d048eb4-982a-412f-b61d-31e8b332ed07

This place sounds like a real hellhole holy shit
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KodyKeir
09/08/22 8:40:41 PM
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ffs

Can everyone just chill for five minutes!

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hypnox
09/08/22 9:13:13 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
This place sounds like a real hellhole holy shit

As someone whose been there. It is.

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ZangsBeard
09/08/22 9:26:53 PM
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More like Oofvalde

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JixHedgehog
09/08/22 10:44:32 PM
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.. meanwhile in Chicago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/9-dead-47-wounded-in-chicago-shootings-during-labor-day-weekend/ar-AA11r4qf

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BlackScythe0
09/08/22 11:40:42 PM
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JixHedgehog posted...
.. meanwhile in Chicago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/9-dead-47-wounded-in-chicago-shootings-during-labor-day-weekend/ar-AA11r4qf

Population of Chicago 2.699 million
Population of Uvalde 16,122

Go back to clown school you clearly failed the first time around.
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Metalsonic66
09/08/22 11:41:23 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/3/7/AAFUswAADp3x.jpg

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Lokarin
09/08/22 11:42:52 PM
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How are we suppoed to get more guns in the classrooms when the police don't know how to operate the doors?

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ZangsBeard
09/09/22 2:46:39 AM
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JixHedgehog posted...
.. meanwhile in Chicago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/9-dead-47-wounded-in-chicago-shootings-during-labor-day-weekend/ar-AA11r4qf

WHATABAAAAOOOUTTTTTTTTTTTT

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JixHedgehog
09/09/22 9:21:36 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Population of Chicago 2.699 million
Population of Uvalde 16,122

I see your Uvalde

I'll raise you Streeterville, IL, population 33,937
where 2 people were shot, 1 died and throw in a car chase (that could've easily ended badly for others)

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-streeterville-chase-downtown/12215299/

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Jen0125
09/09/22 9:45:16 AM
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JixHedgehog posted...
I see your Uvalde

I'll raise you Streeterville, IL, population 33,937
where 2 people were shot, 1 died and throw in a car chase (that could've easily ended badly for others)

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-streeterville-chase-downtown/12215299/

Okay and?
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NickMullen
09/09/22 10:08:13 AM
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JixHedgehog posted...
I see your Uvalde

I'll raise you Streeterville, IL, population 33,937
where 2 people were shot, 1 died and throw in a car chase (that could've easily ended badly for others)

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-streeterville-chase-downtown/12215299/

What does that have to do with the topic?

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DirtBasedSoap
09/09/22 10:10:07 AM
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JixHedgehog posted...
I see your Uvalde

I'll raise you Streeterville, IL, population 33,937
where 2 people were shot, 1 died and throw in a car chase (that could've easily ended badly for others)

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-streeterville-chase-downtown/12215299/

what is your point? @jixhedgehog

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Jen0125
09/09/22 10:16:04 AM
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I mean how is that even a raise when less people died and the population is still twice as much. It's not a raise at all lol.
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ZangsBeard
09/09/22 10:52:44 AM
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JixHedgehog posted...
I see your Uvalde

I'll raise you Streeterville, IL, population 33,937
where 2 people were shot, 1 died and throw in a car chase (that could've easily ended badly for others)

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-streeterville-chase-downtown/12215299/

Jesus christ, you literally can't do anything but stamp your feet and go "WELL THIS HAPPENED TOOOWOOOOO" like you're actually making a point?

You're not, by the way. You're just looking like a fool.

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Grendel_Prime
09/09/22 11:15:34 AM
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I'm not sure if Jix is trying to make the point that the occurrence of other, "regular" shootings somehow lessens the impact of mass shootings, and therefore dulls the argument for the further regulation of firearms, or if they're in agreement that while mass shootings are terrible, there are countless other shootings that go largely unnoticed due to the spotlight being on mass shootings, and that all shootings should be included in the conversation when discussing regulation.

We need a national registry for firearms. Registration occurring annually to keep the database up-to-date. Comprehensive background checks. Mandatory classes on proper handling of firearms, as well as a demonstration of the impact and aftermath of gun violence, in order to obtain a license to own firearms. License renewals at least as often as driving licenses are renewed. Inspections on firearms to ensure they're in proper working order, and properly stored at home. Mandatory trigger locks or other such deterrents on each firearm purchased. Mandatory gun safes for those who insist on stockpiling weapons. Red flag laws. Robust and generous buyback programs. Mandatory insurance for each firearm owned.

Sure, let people own all the guns they want. But make it so they're much less prone to abusing the privilege due to the investment and requirements in owning them.

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ultra_magnus13
09/09/22 11:47:53 AM
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Grendel_Prime posted...
I'm not sure if Jix is trying to make the point that the occurrence of other, "regular" shootings somehow lessens the impact of mass shootings, and therefore dulls the argument for the further regulation of firearms, or if they're in agreement that while mass shootings are terrible, there are countless other shootings that go largely unnoticed due to the spotlight being on mass shootings, and that all shootings should be included in the conversation when discussing regulation.

We need a national registry for firearms. Registration occurring annually to keep the database up-to-date. Comprehensive background checks. Mandatory classes on proper handling of firearms, as well as a demonstration of the impact and aftermath of gun violence, in order to obtain a license to own firearms. License renewals at least as often as driving licenses are renewed. Inspections on firearms to ensure they're in proper working order, and properly stored at home. Mandatory trigger locks or other such deterrents on each firearm purchased. Mandatory gun safes for those who insist on stockpiling weapons. Red flag laws. Robust and generous buyback programs. Mandatory insurance for each firearm owned.

Sure, let people own all the guns they want. But make it so they're much less prone to abusing the privilege due to the investment and requirements in owning them.


Ah, keep the poor's unarmed.

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ZangsBeard
09/09/22 11:49:20 AM
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ultra_magnus13 posted...
Ah, keep the poor's unarmed.

My first thought too. Just like traffic laws for rich people, it only effects the poor.

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Grendel_Prime
09/09/22 12:49:57 PM
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That wasn't meant to be a definitive list. I agree that a lot of measures short of forceful disarmament of the population would not effect the wealthy. Interested to hear how you propose regulating gun ownership among wealthy citizens.

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KodyKeir
09/09/22 12:57:48 PM
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Grendel_Prime posted...
Interested to hear how you propose regulating gun ownership among wealthy citizens.

Grendel_Prime posted...
disarmament of the population


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BlackScythe0
09/09/22 1:21:26 PM
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JixHedgehog posted...
I see your Uvalde

I'll raise you Streeterville, IL, population 33,937
where 2 people were shot, 1 died and throw in a car chase (that could've easily ended badly for others)

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-streeterville-chase-downtown/12215299/

Why are you doubling down? What is the point of this clown?
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VampireCoyote
09/09/22 1:47:28 PM
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I hate shootings, police, and texas

way too much of all three of those things

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CyborgSage00x0
09/09/22 6:12:06 PM
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ultra_magnus13 posted...
Ah, keep the poor's unarmed.
"The poors" tend to be the most armed as is, actually, and usually to their detriment.

That said, the point is *no one* should be armed, as there shouldn't be a point in any place claiming to be a 1st world nation. Nothing he listed has any cost of merit, aside a gun safe, and that was only for those stockpiling (at which point the cost of the guns already is higher than any safe would be). Can't claim to be a responsible gun owner if you aren't ready tp pay for it.

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hera
09/10/22 8:58:25 PM
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the fact a website like this exists at all

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

is extremely indicative of a massive fundamental problem

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Revelation34
09/10/22 10:45:05 PM
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hera posted...
the fact a website like this exists at all

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

is extremely indicative of a massive fundamental problem


That website is shit. Just scrolling down and they list shootings as mass shootings when there were only two people involved. Gang shootings are not the same as some random psycho gunning down random people.

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KodyKeir
09/10/22 11:00:43 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
That website is shit. Just scrolling down and they list shootings as mass shootings when there were only two people involved. Gang shootings are not the same as some random psycho gunning down random people.

So your complaint is that it does not adequately distinguish between the type of violent gunfire that is plaguing American streets.


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hera
09/10/22 11:01:38 PM
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Revelation34 posted...


That website is shit. Just scrolling down and they list shootings as mass shootings when there were only two people involved. Gang shootings are not the same as some random psycho gunning down random people.


it's still a mass shooting lmfao

it needs no differentiation

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Revelation34
09/10/22 11:06:10 PM
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hera posted...


it's still a mass shooting lmfao

it needs no differentiation


No it isn't. Two people getting shot is not a mass shooting.

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hera
09/10/22 11:07:22 PM
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it literally is

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Revelation34
09/10/22 11:08:57 PM
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hera posted...
it literally is

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Maybe under your own twisted definition.

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hera
09/11/22 4:06:42 AM
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the only definition for a mass shooting, as recognized by congress, is more than one person

a mass killing is more than four.

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DarkMinun
09/11/22 8:09:34 AM
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ultra_magnus13 posted...
Ah, keep the poor's unarmed.

We're trying to keep them alive.

USA has very high rates of gun accidents. From small children accidentally killing family members with loaded guns that were lying around to guys neutering themselves while attempting basic gun maintenance, this shit doesn't happen elsewhere.

Here in Canada just about anyone can buy a gun despite licensing requirements. You take a safety course, pass a background check, and store them in a gun safe, which can be pretty much anything with a lock on it. They don't have to be made of steel or cost hundreds of dollars. Guns also must be unloaded when stored.

Surprising no one, in a country with basic safety regulations where people who have guns actually know how guns work, we have very few injuries and deaths due to forearm accidents, and almost 100% of the few that do occur are due to someone not following the rules.

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hera
09/11/22 8:34:04 AM
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they also might not be so poor if they didn't blow hundreds on something they will never, ever, use for what they say they want it for

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Jen0125
09/11/22 8:42:11 AM
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Smh can't believe you guys wanna make this political
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