Current Events > They need to bring back Arena Shooters

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Quake III: Arena and Unreal Tournament style, where the movement is fast and there's a lot of verticality.

I miss LawBreakers

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So you're saying that you want a multiplayer battle arena game that is online?

I'd rather leave Unreal Tournament dead in its grave than see it become a loot box pay to win piece of casualized garbage.

TFC the GOAT

Conc jumping was too much fun

I don't think there's much of a market for them with the AAA publishers. Prolly gonna have to go indie, if you want one.

Quake Champions is fun.

Unreal Tournament is still fun for me these days.

Battle Royale is the modern equivalent to that

https://www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/en-US/

apparently UT got a remake.

SDBZ posted...

I miss LawBreakers

Lawbreakers looked amazing. Just came out at a time when arena shooters had zero weight in the pro community. I don't think most pro gamers have the skills to handle shooters like quake, and unreal. When they were big gaming wasn't in the tens of millions yet. Or billions for that matter.

However it would be nice to see a resurgence of them. I just don't see it happening.

Quake 3 Instagib rail gun servers for life

furb posted...

Quake 3 Instagib rail gun servers for life

That sounds like a real good time

Miss Quake 3 freeze tag/rails

Hyper Dash is an amazing VR arena shooter

Splitgate is if you want Halo multiplayer but with portals

DarkRoast posted...

That sounds like a real good time

The very first clan I ever joined was playing on some old Q3 rg instagib servers called Reign in Blood back in 99 2000 range. I was bad and stuck on dial up but did my best anyway lol.

I also played a mod called Weapons Factory quite a bit. It was like team fortress I guess.

Edit
Wild weapons factory is still a thing

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/4/1/AAcX9OAADpVd.png

Quake at least TDM was extremely hard to camp. Guns had ammo so you tried to control ammo and gun spawn points but these locations are not typically easy to control. Movement at high speed could quickly overwhelm a camper.

This was also the case in with free for all modes too.

I can't speak for other games but I played a metric ton of quake 3 and some of quake 2.

KhlavicLanguage posted...

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Should be a fedora in that pfp, I can smell the sweat and cheese powder from here

Gwynevere posted...

Should be a fedora in that pfp, I can smell the sweat and cheese powder from here

the irony of this post in opposition of someone saying arena shooters lack mass appeal, holy shit lmao

Liu_Kano posted...

I'd rather leave Unreal Tournament dead in its grave than see it become a loot box pay to win piece of casualized garbage.

Yeah this is my concern as well. God knows stockholders won't care about the spirit of the game.

I only really played Quake, and I was never good at FPSes, but I always enjoyed arena shooters when I played them.

Gwynevere posted...

Should be a fedora in that pfp, I can smell the sweat and cheese powder from here

He's right and he also would smell much worse than that by now.

Unreal Tournament 2004 is the GOAT arena shooter.

Punished_Blinx posted...

He's right and he also would smell much worse than that by now.

Please don't tell me you're mocking what I think you're mocking...

Punished_Blinx posted...

He's right

Nah, considering there's so few people actually expressing interest in arena shooters coming back, I find it totally plausible that most of the people asking for them are the few who play those that do come out

Gwynevere posted...

Nah, considering there's so few people actually expressing interest in arena shooters coming back, I find it totally plausible that most of the people asking for them are the few who play those that do come out

Maybe but I think a lot of people on the internet have a tendency to ask for stuff they're nostalgic over to come back and then not give anything that remotely channels it a chance because it's never going to live up to their memories of it. It's never going to be the same.

All I remember when Lawbreakers came out were people basically celebrating how much of a massive failure it was.

Yeah, that's the other thing.

People make nostalgic blind them to reality. Not just to the quality of games, but to life itself.

You could have the perfect remake. One that 100% captures the spirit and essence of the old game, one that looks and feels better than the original, and made by the same people who made the old game.

That doesn't change the fact that you're no longer a kid. No longer are you that kid playing with your friends during a refreshing summer day without a care in the world.

You're an adult with body aches, a broken spirit over your job and how the world turned out, and a far more limited time to enjoy anything.

Memories can be sweet, but nothing turns back time.

I still remember Tribes with it's "JetPack" based combat.

But I also remember "Rise of the Triad", "Heretic", & "Hexen" being ALOT of fun.

I had a lot of love for those arena shooters, with my favorite actually being the xbox exclusive unreal championship 2, but I do agree with that sad reality that these kinds of games just wouldn't be all that populated nowadays. The skill gap is huge, and putting in the time to be decent at the game is something not a lot of people would be willing to do compared to both younger and older gamers hoping into a game of fortnite, call of duty, apex or something like that.

The gears of war series kind of has that same spirit as the old arena shooters (including the huge skill gap thing), but even the recent releases of that series imo just hasn't been as good as gears of war 3.

I kinda agree about all those old shooters I was so fond of, quake 3, return to castle wolfenstein, unreal championship 2, and gears of war 3 is probably better off being good memories at this point instead of one of these being brought back just for someone to fuck'em up. (Especially gears of war 3. I really don't want to see a remake of this game with all that lootbox crap that gears of war 5 has.)

KhlavicLanguage posted...

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May TotalBiscuit RIP.

Punished_Blinx posted...

Maybe but I think a lot of people on the internet have a tendency to ask for stuff they're nostalgic over to come back and then not give anything that remotely channels it a chance because it's never going to live up to their memories of it. It's never going to be the same.

That's definitely a fair assessment

There does at least seem to be legitimate traction in the revival of classic style fps games though. Doom 2016/Eternal are movement based shooters (much more so Eternal than 2016 tbf) and they got huge accolades and pretty active online for awhile. The New Blood trilogy has generated quite a bit of buzz, with Dusk basically being Quake on steroids

These types of games are definitely not without their dedicated fanbases, even if they're not huge. A game doesn't have to have a million players online for it to be good or successful

I actually unironically think 90s style shooters are more fun than most modern shooters, and the "Boomer Shooter" revival has pretty much only confirmed that for me. Prodeus is the perfect example of why there's more to it than just nostalgia.

And really, in some ways there had been a move back to that style even before the "Boomer Shooter" thing. Titanfall 2 uses a lot of early 2000s mobility conventions.

I prefer objective style stuff (ie control points, KOTH, "push the cart"), but it's the movement options (read: lack thereof) that make me dislike most modern multiplayer games. TF2 is the closest middle ground that still retains a good player base, but TFC's movement is *chef's kiss*.