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Bad_Mojo 09/04/22 12:52:35 AM #1:	Guess I need to put some thought into a team, but since I've just steamrolled the game so far, I don't have an actual team. I would list my team, but my Switch is charging right now. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967780112] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Guess I need to put some thought into a team, but since I've just steamrolled the game so far, I don't have an actual team. I would list my team, but my Switch is charging right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerseusRad 09/04/22 1:04:14 AM #2:	You could buy X-items, it might help you out to the point you dont need to level grind. --- http://i.imgur.com/EUkIomS.jpg <cite>PerseusRad posted [p:967780297] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>You could buy X-items, it might help you out to the point you dont need to level grind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 09/04/22 1:04:36 AM #3:	shut up new duncan --- Like a whisper on the breeze <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:967780306] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>shut up new duncan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 09/04/22 1:05:09 AM #4:	PerseusRad posted... You could buy X-items, it might help you out to the point you dont need to level grind. I don't think my level is the issue. I think it just f'n terrible, lol --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967780314] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>PerseusRad posted... </cite><quote>You could buy X-items, it might help you out to the point you dont need to level grind.</quote>I don't think my level is the issue. I think it just f'n terrible, lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 09/04/22 1:05:57 AM #5:	viewmaster_pi posted... shut up new duncan The Tall? --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967780329] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite><quote>shut up new duncan</quote>The Tall?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 09/04/22 1:07:22 AM #6:	I refuse to believe anyone can be bad at storymode Pokmon, one of the famously easy franchises in gaming. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:967780360] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>I refuse to believe anyone can be bad at storymode Pokmon, one of the famously easy franchises in gaming.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 09/04/22 1:09:56 AM #7:	I beat Cynthia first try back in D/P and I'm an idiot. Did they make her tougher in BDSP? --- My maid will hear about this. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:967780396] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>I beat Cynthia first try back in D/P and I'm an idiot. Did they make her tougher in BDSP?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 09/04/22 1:13:56 AM #8:	BloodMoon7 posted... I beat Cynthia first try back in D/P and I'm an idiot. Did they make her tougher in BDSP? All of the Elite Four members, and the Champion, will now have the same team they used in Pokmon Platinum, which is much more balanced and harder to face. Their levels will also rise by around six. But in Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, Aaron, Bertha, Flint, Lucian, and Cynthia actually represent a legitimate challenge for anyone but the most overleveled player. Players will have to defeat a number of Pokemon that are over level 60, and the BDSP Elite Four also break the mold by going outside of their assigned type specialties. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967780459] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>BloodMoon7 posted... </cite><quote>I beat Cynthia first try back in D/P and I'm an idiot. Did they make her tougher in BDSP?</quote>All of the Elite Four members, and the Champion, will now have the same team they used in Pokmon Platinum, which is much more balanced and harder to face. Their levels will also rise by around six.But in Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, Aaron, Bertha, Flint, Lucian, and Cynthia actually represent a legitimate challenge for anyone but the most overleveled player. Players will have to defeat a number of Pokemon that are over level 60, and the BDSP Elite Four also break the mold by going outside of their assigned type specialties.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 09/04/22 1:15:12 AM #9:	bloodmoon why lie --- Like a whisper on the breeze <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:967780471] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>bloodmoon why lie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 09/04/22 1:15:29 AM #10:	Bad_Mojo posted... the BDSP Elite Four also break the mold by going outside of their assigned type specialties. Those fiends! --- My maid will hear about this. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:967780477] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Bad_Mojo posted... </cite><quote>the BDSP Elite Four also break the mold by going outside of their assigned type specialties.</quote>Those fiends!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 09/04/22 1:16:49 AM #11:	viewmaster_pi posted... bloodmoon why lie It's tru tho I think people mostly complained about Garchomp but I remember I had a counter. I forget what it was but I never did associate Garchomp with bad time Sans. --- My maid will hear about this. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:967780493] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite><quote>bloodmoon why lie</quote>It's tru thoI think people mostly complained about Garchomp but I remember I had a counter. I forget what it was but I never did associate Garchomp with bad time Sans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 09/04/22 1:17:48 AM #12:	i could never remember its type --- Like a whisper on the breeze <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:967780507] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>i could never remember its type</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 09/04/22 1:18:52 AM #13:	A lot of my STAB moves don't even OHKO, and if they would have, then they just f'n miss --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967780521] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>A lot of my STAB moves don't even OHKO, and if they would have, then they just f'n miss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 09/04/22 1:19:54 AM #14:	viewmaster_pi posted... i could never remember its type It's Dragon/Ground. Very weak to Ice but also fast enough that your Ice type will die. You might have to sacrifice the STAB, I think most of Sinnoh's Ice types are on the slower side. --- My maid will hear about this. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:967780543] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite><quote>i could never remember its type</quote>It's Dragon/Ground. Very weak to Ice but also fast enough that your Ice type will die. You might have to sacrifice the STAB, I think most of Sinnoh's Ice types are on the slower side. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 09/04/22 1:24:20 AM #15:	i wonder what my old team was. i don't want to play the remakes, but i am looking forward to ScarVio --- Like a whisper on the breeze <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:967780619] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>i wonder what my old team was. i don't want to play the remakes, but i am looking forward to ScarVio</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 09/04/22 1:24:32 AM #16:	Bad_Mojo posted... All of the Elite Four members, and the Champion, will now have the same team they used in Pokmon Platinum, which is much more balanced and harder to face. Their levels will also rise by around six. But in Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, Aaron, Bertha, Flint, Lucian, and Cynthia actually represent a legitimate challenge for anyone but the most overleveled player. Players will have to defeat a number of Pokemon that are over level 60, and the BDSP Elite Four also break the mold by going outside of their assigned type specialties. Are you doing the rematch or is this the initial E4 fight. Because nothing in that text blurb applies to the initial fight. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:967780621] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Bad_Mojo posted... </cite><quote>All of the Elite Four members, and the Champion, will now have the same team they used in Pokmon Platinum, which is much more balanced and harder to face. Their levels will also rise by around six.But in Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, Aaron, Bertha, Flint, Lucian, and Cynthia actually represent a legitimate challenge for anyone but the most overleveled player. Players will have to defeat a number of Pokemon that are over level 60, and the BDSP Elite Four also break the mold by going outside of their assigned type specialties.</quote>Are you doing the rematch or is this the initial E4 fight. Because nothing in that text blurb applies to the initial fight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noumas 09/04/22 1:25:19 AM #17:	How are there remakes compared to the original ds ones? Also platinum. This was the last time they did a third entry so are whatever additions included in platinum in there? <cite>Noumas posted [p:967780634] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>How are there remakes compared to the original ds ones? Also platinum. This was the last time they did a third entry so are whatever additions included in platinum in there?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 09/04/22 1:27:04 AM #18:	Noumas posted... How are there remakes compared to the original ds ones? Also platinum. This was the last time they did a third entry so are whatever additions included in platinum in there? platinum is ignored, i think most people agreed they're just okay, but they included none of the quality of life stuff of modern pokemon --- Like a whisper on the breeze <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:967780665] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Noumas posted... </cite><quote>How are there remakes compared to the original ds ones? Also platinum. This was the last time they did a third entry so are whatever additions included in platinum in there?</quote>platinum is ignored, i think most people agreed they're just okay, but they included none of the quality of life stuff of modern pokemon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 09/04/22 1:27:30 AM #19:	Use status on Garchomp. It's the last time out, it can't remove something like a speed down. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:967780669] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Use status on Garchomp. It's the last time out, it can't remove something like a speed down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 09/04/22 1:29:14 AM #20:	Compsognathus posted... Are you doing the rematch or is this the initial E4 fight. Because nothing in that text blurb applies to the initial fight. First time here --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967780691] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted... </cite><quote>Are you doing the rematch or is this the initial E4 fight. Because nothing in that text blurb applies to the initial fight.</quote>First time here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 09/04/22 1:35:35 AM #22:	The BDSP Elite 4 is hard from the jump. They have strong teams and have some good AI. They even do strats that involve multiple Pokmon and even sub them in and out correctly. Even if you grind just the story you will be under leveled for them. And once you get through the 4 you have to take on Cynthia which has an even higher level than the 4 and all her Pokmon are perfectly EV trained. It was difficult but it was really fun for me when I played it. I had to put together a good team and have the right moves on the right Pokmon. And Ive played since Red. It surprised me but its one reason I really liked the remake. But I like old school Pokmon design with modern enhancements which puts me in a non-vocal minority. --- http://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:967780757] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>The BDSP Elite 4 is hard from the jump. They have strong teams and have some good AI. They even do strats that involve multiple Pokmon and even sub them in and out correctly. Even if you grind just the story you will be under leveled for them. And once you get through the 4 you have to take on Cynthia which has an even higher level than the 4 and all her Pokmon are perfectly EV trained. It was difficult but it was really fun for me when I played it. I had to put together a good team and have the right moves on the right Pokmon. And Ive played since Red. It surprised me but its one reason I really liked the remake. But I like old school Pokmon design with modern enhancements which puts me in a non-vocal minority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 09/04/22 1:37:01 AM #23:	get a guts pokemon [i dont know if this game has flame orb, if i doesnt just get poisoned by a wild pokemon beforehand] and it probably solos most of the elite 4 --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:967780775] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>get a guts pokemon [i dont know if this game has flame orb, if i doesnt just get poisoned by a wild pokemon beforehand] and it probably solos most of the elite 4 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodmoon77 09/04/22 1:44:56 AM #24:	Tc is right. For me Cynthia was much harder in this game compared to the original. Fuck Garchomp dude was a jobber here, MILOTIC was the god damn nightmare. I only won because my crobat took 3 hits and "toughed it out" at 1 HP. After losing so much I wasn't even mad. --- I wouldn't trust this company with making a cheese sandwich, they'd start an additional kickstarter for the mayo-ssjmatthew on Comcept's MN9 <cite>Bloodmoon77 posted [p:967780874] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Tc is right. For me Cynthia was much harder in this game compared to the original. Fuck Garchomp dude was a jobber here, MILOTIC was the god damn nightmare. I only won because my crobat took 3 hits and "toughed it out" at 1 HP. After losing so much I wasn't even mad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 09/04/22 1:45:26 AM #25:	Flame/Toxic Orb orb is post game iirc? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:967780878] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Flame/Toxic Orb orb is post game iirc?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 09/04/22 1:56:58 AM #26:	Umbreon posted... Flame/Toxic Orb orb is post game iirc? well its fine prepoisoning is superior anyways, just takes a bit of time to do it --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:967781016] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>Flame/Toxic Orb orb is post game iirc?</quote>well its fineprepoisoning is superior anyways, just takes a bit of time to do it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 09/04/22 1:17:21 PM #27:	Thanks for the defense of me being horrible, but I really am horrible and have a terrible team, lol. Here is my team. Sorry if I forget something important, I don't know all the important info. Glaie [Lv52] [Modest] Freeze-Dry Frost Breath Bite Ice Fang Mr. Mime [72] [Gentle] Thunderbolt Psychic Dazzling Gleam Shadow Ball Clefairy [58] [Hasty] Moonblast Fire Blast Meteor Mash Calm Mind Crobat [61] [Lax] Cross Poison Venoshock Dark Pulse Aerial Ace Infernape [63] [Hardy] Mach Punch Flame Wheel Fire Blast Acrobatics Gyarados [58] [Timid] Waterfall Hurricane Bite Hydro Pump Also - Magnezone [58] [Impish] Flash Tri Attack Discharge Flash Cannon --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967788709] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Thanks for the defense of me being horrible, but I really am horrible and have a terrible team, lol.Here is my team. Sorry if I forget something important, I don't know all the important info.Glaie [Lv52] [Modest]Freeze-DryFrost BreathBiteIce Fang Mr. Mime [72] [Gentle]ThunderboltPsychicDazzling GleamShadow BallClefairy [58] [Hasty]MoonblastFire BlastMeteor MashCalm MindCrobat [61] [Lax]Cross PoisonVenoshockDark PulseAerial AceInfernape [63] [Hardy]Mach PunchFlame WheelFire BlastAcrobaticsGyarados [58] [Timid]WaterfallHurricaneBiteHydro PumpAlso -Magnezone [58] [Impish]FlashTri AttackDischargeFlash Cannon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smiffwilm 09/04/22 1:18:25 PM #28:	Tbf you are playing the one with a tougher E4/Champion. --- My Mario Maker 2 ID is 6RG-5XK-JCG <cite>Smiffwilm posted [p:967788725] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Tbf you are playing the one with a tougher E4/Champion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Azardea 09/04/22 1:21:47 PM #29:	Why doesn't your Infernape have Close Combat? <cite>Azardea posted [p:967788802] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Why doesn't your Infernape have Close Combat?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 09/04/22 1:27:33 PM #30:	Azardea posted... Why doesn't your Infernape have Close Combat? The answer is already in this topic - I'm terrible at Pokemon Bad_Mojo posted... I think it just f'n terrible, lol Bad_Mojo posted... but I really am horrible and have a terrible team, lol. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967788928] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Azardea posted... </cite><quote>Why doesn't your Infernape have Close Combat?</quote>The answer is already in this topic -I'm terrible at PokemonBad_Mojo posted... </cite><quote>I think it just f'n terrible, lol</quote>Bad_Mojo posted... </cite><quote>but I really am horrible and have a terrible team, lol.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
random_man9119 09/04/22 1:47:34 PM #31:	Why Clefairy and not Clefable? At first I would think because of Eviolite but I don't think thats in BDSP... --- NNID:MrOddities\|PSN:OddGamer2013 Playing:Pokemon Black\|Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia\|Digimon Survive\|7th Dragon III Code: VFD\|Soul Hackers 2\|Saints Row <cite>random_man9119 posted [p:967789294] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Why Clefairy and not Clefable?At first I would think because of Eviolite but I don't think thats in BDSP...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 09/04/22 1:53:32 PM #32:	tbh I'm a little confused why you can't win, this doesn't seem like it would really have too much trouble --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:967789417] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>tbh I'm a little confused why you can't win, this doesn't seem like it would really have too much trouble</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 09/04/22 1:59:27 PM #33:	kirbymuncher posted... tbh I'm a little confused why you can't win, this doesn't seem like it would really have too much trouble After looking over his team it's probably because his pokemon's natures are hindering them as well as bad IV/EV distribution , remember, natures boost and lower certain stats, the Gyarados in particular has a nature that lowers it's attack, which is the strongest stat for a normal gyarados so if he were to use a super effective attack on one on the elite 4 who even in the base story have pokemon with beneficial natures and better EV/IV distribution of course their pokemon wouldn't be knocked out by the Gyarados's attack. It's only on the rematch that they have perfect natures, held items, better movepools and perfect EV/IV stat distribution for their pokemon. --- A worthless existence <cite>tremain07 posted [p:967789510] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>kirbymuncher posted... </cite><quote>tbh I'm a little confused why you can't win, this doesn't seem like it would really have too much trouble</quote>After looking over his team it's probably because his pokemon's natures are hindering them as well as bad IV/EV distribution , remember, natures boost and lower certain stats, the Gyarados in particular has a nature that lowers it's attack, which is the strongest stat for a normal gyarados so if he were to use a super effective attack on one on the elite 4 who even in the base story have pokemon with beneficial natures and better EV/IV distribution of course their pokemon wouldn't be knocked out by the Gyarados's attack. It's only on the rematch that they have perfect natures, held items, better movepools and perfect EV/IV stat distribution for their pokemon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 09/04/22 2:04:39 PM #34:	Bad_Mojo posted... BDSP Elite Four also break the mold by going outside of their assigned type specialties. At least in Flint's case that's because there were literally 2 fire types in the regional DP dex --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:967789623] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Bad_Mojo posted... </cite><quote>BDSP Elite Four also break the mold by going outside of their assigned type specialties.</quote>At least in Flint's case that's because there were literally 2 fire types in the regional DP dex </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 09/04/22 2:15:54 PM #35:	kirbymuncher posted... tbh I'm a little confused why you can't win, this doesn't seem like it would really have too much trouble Because it's hard to get good at the game when being bad at it can get you so far. I haven't thought a single time about getting good natures, making my team balance each other out, fighting the right Pokemon to get the EVs. My whole game has been pretty much OHKOs by taking advantage of the Weakness, and now I can't really do that. Some of my Pokemon are slower, and they get hit really hard and it makes me go on Defense. I think I need to better use Status and Effects like Sleep and Protection or something like that. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967789832] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>kirbymuncher posted... </cite><quote>tbh I'm a little confused why you can't win, this doesn't seem like it would really have too much trouble</quote>Because it's hard to get good at the game when being bad at it can get you so far. I haven't thought a single time about getting good natures, making my team balance each other out, fighting the right Pokemon to get the EVs. My whole game has been pretty much OHKOs by taking advantage of the Weakness, and now I can't really do that. Some of my Pokemon are slower, and they get hit really hard and it makes me go on Defense. I think I need to better use Status and Effects like Sleep and Protection or something like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 09/04/22 2:20:38 PM #36:	Natures and EVs/IVs don't matter for Story in-game. Your movesets are pretty awful though. Generally speaking your don't need more than one offensive move of a given type on a Pokmon, the one exception being for a mixed attacker. Like a Infernape having Flamethrower and Fire Punch. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:967789928] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Natures and EVs/IVs don't matter for Story in-game. Your movesets are pretty awful though. Generally speaking your don't need more than one offensive move of a given type on a Pokmon, the one exception being for a mixed attacker. Like a Infernape having Flamethrower and Fire Punch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LazLemon 09/04/22 2:20:45 PM #37:	The game has a weird curve where if you just follow the story you end up way overlevelled around the fourth gym but then underlevelled by the time you reach the Elite Four. It's definitely the most difficult E4 for a while unless you go out of your way to level a lot. --- The Big Dawg Kennel Club - Founder and Member. Acknowledge him. Veer Mahaan MDA Club - Founder and Member. Veer is coming. <cite>LazLemon posted [p:967789930] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>The game has a weird curve where if you just follow the story you end up way overlevelled around the fourth gym but then underlevelled by the time you reach the Elite Four. It's definitely the most difficult E4 for a while unless you go out of your way to level a lot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 09/04/22 2:27:39 PM #38:	Compsognathus posted... Natures and EVs/IVs don't matter for Story in-game. Your movesets are pretty awful though. Generally speaking your don't need more than one offensive move of a given type on a Pokmon, the one exception being for a mixed attacker. Like a Infernape having Flamethrower and Fire Punch. Okay, I'll try to figure something out. I just want to make it to the Post game so I can have more Pokemon options to catch --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967790051] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted... </cite><quote>Natures and EVs/IVs don't matter for Story in-game. Your movesets are pretty awful though. Generally speaking your don't need more than one offensive move of a given type on a Pokmon, the one exception being for a mixed attacker. Like a Infernape having Flamethrower and Fire Punch.</quote>Okay, I'll try to figure something out. I just want to make it to the Post game so I can have more Pokemon options to catch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 09/04/22 2:29:34 PM #39:	Compsognathus posted... I refuse to believe anyone can be bad at storymode Pokmon, one of the famously easy franchises in gaming. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:967790087] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted... </cite><quote>I refuse to believe anyone can be bad at storymode Pokmon, one of the famously easy franchises in gaming.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerseusRad 09/04/22 2:30:56 PM #40:	Is there a certain section you keep losing at? --- http://i.imgur.com/EUkIomS.jpg <cite>PerseusRad posted [p:967790108] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Is there a certain section you keep losing at? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/04/22 2:32:02 PM #41:	I remember in Shining Pearl, while I didnt have trouble with the Elite 4, the champion was another story Which was nice since the elite 4 and champions usually arent a problem That said, I did have to reactance some stuff And then, best then the second time with the same team --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:967790126] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>I remember in Shining Pearl, while I didnt have trouble with the Elite 4, the champion was another story Which was nice since the elite 4 and champions usually arent a problem That said, I did have to reactance some stuff And then, best then the second time with the same team</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 09/04/22 2:51:48 PM #42:	Your Infernape and Crobat should be able to handle Aaron easily, though with your current team you might need to just brute force one of his Pokmon. Get a grass move on one of your special attackers they should be able to sweep Bertha. In lieu of that water and ice attacks generally work well. So your Galie and Gyarados can handle it. Just let your Gyarados take care of Flint. Mr. Mime and Gyarados can take care of Lucian easy enough. Cynthia is the only really tricky one. Magnezone could handle her Milotic. Galie should be able to chunk out Garchomp. Infernape handles most the rest. Ideally you can end up in a situation where she switches Garchomp into your Infernape. When she does switch to Gyarados for a free Intimidate on the inevitable Earthquake. Then switch to Clefable (seriously, evolve this thing) on the Dragon Claw, switch back to Gyarados for another Intimidate. And repeat until it's toothless. But the big thing is evolve your Clefairy and then go to the Move Relearner and work on some movesets. There is no reason that Gyarados has Bite instead of the much better Crunch. Infernape really wants Close Combat. I probably would use Magnezone over Crobat. But if you are going to use Crobat, sub out Venoshock for Confuse Ray. Honestly, the only real resources any of this needs is a grass TM like Grass Knot and a Moon Stone. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:967790456] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Your Infernape and Crobat should be able to handle Aaron easily, though with your current team you might need to just brute force one of his Pokmon.Get a grass move on one of your special attackers they should be able to sweep Bertha. In lieu of that water and ice attacks generally work well. So your Galie and Gyarados can handle it.Just let your Gyarados take care of Flint. Mr. Mime and Gyarados can take care of Lucian easy enough.Cynthia is the only really tricky one. Magnezone could handle her Milotic. Galie should be able to chunk out Garchomp. Infernape handles most the rest. Ideally you can end up in a situation where she switches Garchomp into your Infernape. When she does switch to Gyarados for a free Intimidate on the inevitable Earthquake. Then switch to Clefable (seriously, evolve this thing) on the Dragon Claw, switch back to Gyarados for another Intimidate. And repeat until it's toothless.But the big thing is evolve your Clefairy and then go to the Move Relearner and work on some movesets. There is no reason that Gyarados has Bite instead of the much better Crunch. Infernape really wants Close Combat.I probably would use Magnezone over Crobat. But if you are going to use Crobat, sub out Venoshock for Confuse Ray. Honestly, the only real resources any of this needs is a grass TM like Grass Knot and a Moon Stone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oswaldo 09/04/22 2:53:20 PM #43:	Duncans back? <cite>Oswaldo posted [p:967790483] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Duncans back?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 09/05/22 11:22:25 AM #44:	Oswaldo posted... Duncans back? I hope we get The Hedge Knight --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:967808291] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Oswaldo posted... </cite><quote>Duncans back?</quote>I hope we get The Hedge Knight </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dmaster342 09/05/22 11:59:23 AM #45:	No shame in that tbh. I had to reset actually a couple times against the Champion because I got wiped and I had a strong team of OP Pokemon so...yeah. They did actually make the E4+Champ harder in these remakes. They all have good Natures, good Items, and probably good IVs/EVs. For the very few that actually played through these terrible (IMO) remakes, it's a legit challenge tbh. --- NNID: dmaster342 Switch FC: SW-7536-6913-0987 3DS FC: 3411-5415-9967 <cite>dmaster342 posted [p:967808980] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>No shame in that tbh. I had to reset actually a couple times against the Champion because I got wiped and I had a strong team of OP Pokemon so...yeah. They did actually make the E4+Champ harder in these remakes. They all have good Natures, good Items, and probably good IVs/EVs. For the very few that actually played through these terrible (IMO) remakes, it's a legit challenge tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Korey 09/05/22 12:08:10 PM #46:	Bad_Mojo posted... I don't think my level is the issue. I think it just f'n terrible, lol It's a turn-based RPG. If something doesn't work, gain 5 - 10 more levels and try again. --- https://i.imgur.com/PpxZDof.png \| https://i.imgur.com/xMGLcGE.png https://i.imgur.com/nsBw6Sy.png \| https://imgtc.com/i/sBYBaew.png <cite>The_Korey posted [p:967809131] in I'm terrib... [t:80153172]...</cite> <quote>Bad_Mojo posted... </cite><quote>I don't think my level is the issue. I think it just f'n terrible, lol</quote>It's a turn-based RPG. If something doesn't work, gain 5 - 10 more levels and try again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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