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WingsOfGood
08/31/22 3:44:51 PM
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If you can post on gamefaqs then you can get a job!

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NeonOctopus
08/31/22 3:45:19 PM
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Cant wait to send my kids to the textile factory soon!

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MC_BatCommander
08/31/22 3:45:26 PM
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They've run out of adults to abuse and mistreat, gotta expand the pool

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The_X_Dawg
08/31/22 3:45:32 PM
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Thanks a lot Obama of Australia.
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Giant_Aspirin
08/31/22 3:48:33 PM
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shrug. i got my first job at age 14. i dont see a problem with 13, as long as minor labor laws are followed.

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WingsOfGood
08/31/22 3:48:59 PM
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The_X_Dawg posted...
Thanks a lot Obama of Australia.

Don't think USA is any different
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32Legend
08/31/22 3:49:07 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Cant wait to send my kids to the textile factory soon!
And the coal mines.

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coolguyjimmy
08/31/22 3:50:27 PM
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In the UK, employment age is 13 years old. Which says all it needs to, about why it should never be allowed.
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WingsOfGood
08/31/22 3:50:48 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
shrug. i got my first job at age 14. i dont see a problem with 13, as long as minor labor laws are followed.

what was your job?
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Pepys_Monster
08/31/22 3:51:02 PM
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Let children have a childhood. For fuck's sake.

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HBOSS
08/31/22 3:51:18 PM
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Keeping wages low for profit

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WingsOfGood
08/31/22 3:52:16 PM
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HBOSS posted...
Keeping wages low for profit

"those are kids jobs, they don't deserve minimum wage!"
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Giant_Aspirin
08/31/22 3:52:24 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
what was your job?

bagger at a grocery store.

i was required to obtain a work permit, which required getting my school to verify that i attended full time and my parents to verify i wasn't being coerced into working or anything. my hours per week were capped at something like 14.5 or 15.

WingsOfGood posted...
"those are kids jobs, they don't deserve minimum wage!"

i started at min wage. which was $4.75 or $5.25, idr.

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11110111011
08/31/22 3:52:44 PM
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I started working when I was 14.
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Cleo_II
08/31/22 3:53:02 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
shrug. i got my first job at age 14. i dont see a problem with 13, as long as minor labor laws are followed.
My husband got his first job at 14 too and he would never want our daughter to have to do the same. Kids should be kids.
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Proto_Spark
08/31/22 3:54:32 PM
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How to you solve the worker shortage without increasing wages? just make younger and more manipulatable kids work too!

I also had my first job at 14, but it was a summer job that was kind of designed to work around mostly school students and stuff.
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R1masher
08/31/22 3:54:55 PM
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I had my first job on the books at 13, my kids been working on the books since 14

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mustachedmystic
08/31/22 3:55:01 PM
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IIRC, in America, children under 16 can work, if their parents and school agree, and they can loose the right at any time if their grades drop.

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Holy_Cloud105
08/31/22 3:55:06 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
and my parents to verify i wasn't being coerced into working or anything.

That means absolutely nothing though. Parents can and will lie.


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FortuneCookie
08/31/22 3:55:33 PM
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Greedy bastards push for more greed in a bastardly way. News at 11:00.
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Turtlemayor333
08/31/22 3:59:18 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
as long as minor labor laws are followed.
Don't worry, all these businesses will follow the law just like they did with mask mandates

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Umbreon
08/31/22 4:02:19 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
shrug. i got my first job at age 14. i dont see a problem with 13, as long as minor labor laws are followed.


Considering they've also made it so minors can work late on school nights, and they're only pushing this because adults are slowly refusing to being taken advantage of anymore...

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Lost_All_Senses
08/31/22 4:04:32 PM
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I couldn't push harder. These kids are lazy and need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They need to buy their dad some video games to play while Im between jobs.

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eggcorn
08/31/22 4:07:21 PM
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Sad to see so many bigots here against children's right to work.

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WingsOfGood
08/31/22 4:08:41 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Considering they've also made it so minors can work late on school nights, and they're only pushing this because adults are slowly refusing to being taken advantage of anymore...

you want a raise?

ha.

we will just hire kids and replace you!

"but that is illegal!"

is it? well lets see if we can change that!

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Gamerguymass
08/31/22 4:09:48 PM
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A lot of kids work long before 13 anyway mowing lawns, raking leaves, shoveling snow, etc. So this isn't really as big a deal as most people here are making it out to be. People are acting like it's mandatory and soldiers will storm into your home and drag your kids away to be put to work.

But it wouldn't be CE if people weren't being pearl clutching drama queens.

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Giant_Aspirin
08/31/22 4:12:06 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
My husband got his first job at 14 too and he would never want our daughter to have to do the same. Kids should be kids.

it wasn't something i 'had' to do. i wanted to get a job so i could have spending money of my own. getting $100 every 2 weeks was pretty sweet for 14 year-old me. it was not something my parents pressured me into, or anything.

Holy_Cloud105 posted...


That means absolutely nothing though. Parents can and will lie.

sure, but it gives the state a channel to punish them.

Umbreon posted...
Considering they've also made it so minors can work late on school nights, and they're only pushing this because adults are slowly refusing to being taken advantage of anymore...

that's messed up. i wasn't allowed to work past 6:30 PM until i was 16.

Turtlemayor333 posted...
Don't worry, all these businesses will follow the law just like they did with mask mandates

the problem with the mask mandates, at least where i lived, is there was practically no enforcement. and i obviously can't speak for every company, as i'm sure there are shady ones out there, but Kroger was very strict in following those minor labor laws. like, if it was 6:35 and i hadn't clocked out yet, it set off some internal alarm.

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COVxy
08/31/22 4:13:01 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
shrug. i got my first job at age 14. i dont see a problem with 13, as long as minor labor laws are followed.


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RchHomieQuanChi
08/31/22 4:13:27 PM
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The system literally only values you for your ability to make businesses richer

Fuck capitalism

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ellis123
08/31/22 4:22:55 PM
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First they came for the age of employment. Then they came for the age of consent.

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Pepys_Monster
08/31/22 4:24:03 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
A lot of kids work long before 13 anyway mowing lawns, raking leaves, shoveling snow, etc. So this isn't really as big a deal as most people here are making it out to be. People are acting like it's mandatory and soldiers will storm into your home and drag your kids away to be put to work.

But it wouldn't be CE if people weren't being pearl clutching drama queens.
Can't you see that this would gradually be normalized until it became the expected standard, just to make ends meet?

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Popcorn2000
08/31/22 4:24:12 PM
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Sounds like something republicans would support
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ROBANN_88
08/31/22 4:27:34 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Cant wait to send my kids to the textile factory soon!
of course, adult arms can't get into all the little crevices the same way as a small childs arm when textiles get jammed in the machines
gotta use kids for that

and no need to shut down the machine during the process, that's a waste of time and money.
childrens arms grow back anyway, i think

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Gamerguymass
08/31/22 4:32:06 PM
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Pepys_Monster posted...
Can't you see that this would gradually be normalized until it became the expected standard, just to make ends meet?

Except it's already legal for 14 year olds to work in most places and there hasn't been any issues.

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epik_fail1
08/31/22 4:32:48 PM
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13 years old can already work here with parental consent, but if I remember correctly you can only work up to 16 hours or something and do not need your parents permission after 16.

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ellis123
08/31/22 4:35:45 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
13 years old can already work here with parental consent, but if I remember correctly you can only work up to 16 hours or something and do not need your parents permission after 16.
It's legal plenty of places. That doesn't mean that every complaint about it isn't 100% correct: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/28/business/chipotle-child-labor-laws-massachusetts.html

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epik_fail1
08/31/22 4:37:55 PM
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ellis123 posted...
It's legal plenty of places. That doesn't mean that every complaint about it isn't 100% correct: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/28/business/chipotle-child-labor-laws-massachusetts.html

Oh well.i just googled the working age of where I live and apparently there is no minimum age, but you require parental permission below 14.

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The_Wheelman1
08/31/22 4:38:46 PM
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ellis123 posted...
First they came for the age of employment. Then they came for the age of consent.
Yep its only a matter of time before they lower the age of consent. This world is fucked up enough to do it.

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Gamerguymass
08/31/22 4:51:30 PM
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The_Wheelman1 posted...
Yep its only a matter of time before they lower the age of consent. This world is fucked up enough to do it.

You do know that America generally has the highest age of consent in the entire western world right? Most everywhere else has it lower already and their societies aren't crumbling into decay like people think will happen. It's not even 18 in the majority of America not to mention there is a federal age of 16 applying to soldiers overseas.

I honestly don't think most people here seem to understand what the age of consent or lowering it even means. People act like lowering it is the same thing as legalizing rape.

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Oubliettes
08/31/22 4:53:43 PM
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GrandConjuraton
08/31/22 4:54:09 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
They've run out of adults to abuse and mistreat, gotta expand the pool


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IfGodCouldDie
08/31/22 4:55:53 PM
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Mcdicks at 14, worked 6 months and didn't work again until I was 18.

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Umbreon
08/31/22 4:55:58 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
I honestly don't think most people here seem to understand what the age of consent or lowering it even means. People act like lowering it is the same thing as legalizing rape.


To be fair... have you seen Republican politicians talk about rape?

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Prestoff
08/31/22 4:57:19 PM
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I started working at a grocery store at the age of 14 just doing stuff like restocking. I had to do those stereotypical "stacking the cans" only for someone to do something stupid and knock it all down so I have to clean it and stack it all over again. I'm glad most grocery stores stop doing this crap. I swear some people knocking them down were probably doing it on purpose.

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Kloe_Rinz
08/31/22 4:57:21 PM
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The only reason there is a push for this is because kids have a lower minimum wage than adults. Theres no reason that should be legal.
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ToadallyAwesome
08/31/22 5:02:17 PM
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This is a slippery slope and anyone defending it is just wrong.

This is not a solution and would be rife with a multitude of issues.

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Alucard188
08/31/22 5:03:32 PM
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Nice. Now kids can develop a stronger anti-work sentiment from a younger age.

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RchHomieQuanChi
08/31/22 5:04:16 PM
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ToadallyAwesome posted...
This is a slippery slope and anyone defending it is just wrong.

This is not a solution and would be rife with a multitude of issues.

Yeah like....there's a reason we did away with child labor

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Tmaster148
08/31/22 5:04:24 PM
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People aren't pushing for these laws because they want children to work a couple hours and make some extra money like they do already. Like I had a paperroute as a kid made decent money for spending an hour a day delievering news papers.

The push is to have children work full shifts so they can avoid paying more for the current work force. Anyone defending this with "but kids already can work now " are ignoring that's there's a lot of restrictions to it and the push is to remove those.

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