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Smashingpmkns 08/23/22 6:27:48 PM #1: |
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Ratchetrockon 08/23/22 6:29:37 PM #2: |
Damn wtf. And self driving trucks supposed to be a thing in a decade? --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid_Sonic 08/23/22 6:31:35 PM #3: |
I'm wondering if self-driving cars will really work in a world where not every car is self-driving. I feel like a mix of human and self-driving vehicles won't be a smooth combination. --- Remember kids: whatever doesn't kill you can be used as the basis for a lawsuit and a big settlement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nukazie 08/23/22 6:32:25 PM #4: |
skynet making its move --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 08/23/22 6:32:35 PM #5: |
So how many incidents are there going to be before the government puts a stop to this? It's clearly not ready and is dangerous --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 08/23/22 6:32:43 PM #6: |
Ratchetrockon posted... Damn wtf. And self driving trucks supposed to be a thing in a decade? Self-driving trucks are already a thing. They're not unattended, but they're a thing --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SauI_Goodman 08/23/22 6:32:52 PM #7: |
Ratchetrockon posted... Damn wtf. And self driving trucks supposed to be a thing in a decade?Mark my words. Will not happen within that time frame. Been saying it for years. Not until they clear up the insurance issue that nobody can settle. It may very happen in the distant future but its not happening anytime soon. --- Italian, French, German. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Squall28 08/23/22 6:34:20 PM #8: |
Solid_Sonic posted... I'm wondering if self-driving cars will really work in a world where not every car is self-driving. I feel like a mix of human and self-driving vehicles won't be a smooth combination. I have similar thoughts. I don't want one until most of the population has one. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/23/22 6:35:36 PM #9: |
SauI_Goodman posted... Mark my words. Will not happen within that time frame. Been saying it for years. Not until they clear up the insurance issue that nobody can settle. It may very happen in the distant future but its not happening anytime soon. https://youtu.be/lD6ICmMRSL8 --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 08/23/22 6:36:33 PM #10: |
It's so advanced it can even decide when you need a new Tesla ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turtlemayor333 08/23/22 6:38:00 PM #13: |
Tesla is such garbage, it makes me mad that 99% of posts will be about self-driving technology in general and not Tesla's implementation in particular. Like saying all rollercoasters are going to kill you because of those rickety ass country fair rides. --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/23/22 6:38:13 PM #14: |
Elon Musk: "Not buying a Tesla with full self driving is like buying a horse." Horse: (has actual working self driving) --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/23/22 6:49:04 PM #16: |
ProfessorKukui posted... It's gonna have to kill a few people for someone to step up & do something with this clearly not working thing.It already has. They just keep throwing customers under the bus saying they did something wrong but evidence is somewhat sketchy and they're dead so they can't really advocate for themselves. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IdiotMachine 08/23/22 6:49:42 PM #17: |
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Solid_Sonic 08/23/22 6:52:15 PM #18: |
ProfessorKukui posted... It's gonna have to kill a few people for someone to step up & do something with this clearly not working thing. People have died already. I know a journalist did when the car swerved into a guard rail. --- Remember kids: whatever doesn't kill you can be used as the basis for a lawsuit and a big settlement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sariana21 08/23/22 6:52:59 PM #19: |
How many non-self-driving cars drove into guardrails? What comparison are we making here? Which is actually safer based on the datahuman driven or AI driven? (Im guessing human at this point because there are so many more of them in the sample.) --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 08/23/22 6:55:14 PM #20: |
Solid_Sonic posted... I'm wondering if self-driving cars will really work in a world where not every car is self-driving. I feel like a mix of human and self-driving vehicles won't be a smooth combination.The roads themselves and infrastructure are not equipped for it. We'll need a nation wide system like in the iRobot movie or the Total Recall remake. Basically every car needs to be "smart", roads need to be completely built around them, communication needs to be complete coverage of every drivable road, there's alot that needs to happen. Self driving vehicles like you see in movies are still science fiction. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chicken 08/23/22 6:55:41 PM #21: |
They didnt laugh at elons tweet --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamen_Rider_Blade 08/23/22 7:06:17 PM #22: |
Fony posted... The roads themselves and infrastructure are not equipped for it. We'll need a nation wide system like in the iRobot movie or the Total Recall remake. Basically every car needs to be "smart", roads need to be completely built around them, communication needs to be complete coverage of every drivable road, there's alot that needs to happen. Self driving vehicles like you see in movies are still science fiction. Have you seen the state of infrastructure and the funding for it? That ain't happening. Politicians ALWAYS love gutting infrastructure budgets for their pet projects the moment the public isn't looking. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 08/23/22 7:52:37 PM #23: |
Kamen_Rider_Blade posted... Have you seen the state of infrastructure and the funding for it?which is why self driving cars aren't happening. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkDaLunatic 08/23/22 7:53:32 PM #24: |
this self-driving nonsense is dangerous and unnecessary musk's ego stroking is going to cost lives ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Naysaspace 08/23/22 7:54:53 PM #25: |
musk is an idea man but the reality is FSD is the product of a bunch of engineers. I don't know what musk even does, if anything, at tesla other than take part in high-level strategy meetings. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamen_Rider_Blade 08/23/22 7:55:18 PM #26: |
LinkDaLunatic posted... this self-driving nonsense is dangerous and unnecessary https://www.tesladeaths.com/ Here's a site that tracks all deaths via Tesla's. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/23/22 7:56:49 PM #27: |
DipDipDiver posted... It's so advanced it can even decide when you need a new Tesla --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 08/23/22 7:57:40 PM #28: |
LinkDaLunatic posted... this self-driving nonsense is dangerous and unnecessary He's just runaway and marketing Mobile Eye's technology as something that it's not. The fact that he chose to market it as self driving is why mobile eye broke ties with Tesla in the first place. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkDaLunatic 08/23/22 7:59:50 PM #29: |
Kamen_Rider_Blade posted... https://www.tesladeaths.com/... fucking horrible. i didn't know it was already that bad. Fony posted... He's just runaway and marketing Mobile Eye's technology as something that it's not. The fact that he chose to market it as self driving is why mobile eye broke ties with Tesla in the first place.he's guilty. this is on him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkprince21 08/23/22 8:04:58 PM #30: |
Statistically speaking, would it not still be safer to drive autopilot than actual people driving? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pick4six 08/23/22 8:06:39 PM #31: |
Tyranthraxus posted... It already has. They just keep throwing customers under the bus saying they did something wrong but evidence is somewhat sketchy and they're dead so they can't really advocate for themselves.Oh it's killed plenty of people already, Tesla doesn't give af --- Bitcoin! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamen_Rider_Blade 08/23/22 8:08:17 PM #32: |
Darkprince21 posted... Statistically speaking, would it not still be safer to drive autopilot than actual people driving?Would you trust the machine to ID a perp with visual recognition over your ability to ID a perp in person using your own eyes? Remember, liability is on you if anything goes wrong and you get the wrong guy. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crimsoness 08/23/22 8:09:40 PM #33: |
Remember the ford firestone controversy? I guess if you make cars a few hundred deaths aren't important --- CrimsonAngel, she/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 08/23/22 8:09:44 PM #34: |
Darkprince21 posted... Statistically speaking, would it not still be safer to drive autopilot than actual people driving? Number of people driving combustion cars with no "autopilot", length of time a regular can actually be on the road compared to a battery powered car, counting truck drivers and other commercial vehicles, number of Tesla cars even in existence(back to point 1), number of people who can afford a Tesla(back to point 1). All significant factors in "uh statistically" arguments. If you isolate Tesla's for safety and QC they're not too hot at all. when you have top YouTubers promoting the brand and with multiple of said influencers their suspension and brakes fail it's not a good look. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/23/22 8:10:14 PM #35: |
Darkprince21 posted... Statistically speaking, would it not still be safer to drive autopilot than actual people driving? Statistically, it is safer. Full self driving is not currently anywhere near ready for prime time, but there are multiple warnings about that. It is only rolled out to a small portion of the fleet at this time. The basic autopilot on highways is really great, though. It's definitely not anywhere near perfect, though, which is why you're repeatedly told to keep your hands on the wheel and pay attention when you use it. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pitlord_Special 08/23/22 8:12:09 PM #36: |
Darkprince21 posted... Statistically speaking, would it not still be safer to drive autopilot than actual people driving? To speak statistically, you have to have statistics/data. Im not aware of Tesla sharing any of their data with the public so thats really pure conjecture. --- Posted from my iPhone 13 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/23/22 8:13:19 PM #37: |
Pitlord_Special posted... To speak statistically, you have to have statistics/data. Im not aware of Tesla sharing any of their data with the public so thats really pure conjecture.https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport They share at least some stuff there, broken down by quarter. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 08/23/22 8:14:05 PM #38: |
They still don't work when snow obscures the lane lines. So FSD is out of the question for winter states. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/23/22 8:15:00 PM #40: |
Rexdragon125 posted... They still don't work when snow obscures the lane lines. So FSD is out of the question for winter states.Yep. Really any time lane lines are significantly obscured, it doesn't let you use autosteer or FSD. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/23/22 8:18:35 PM #41: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You're supposed to. The way it works currently, if your hands are off of the wheel, it goes through a progression of warnings. At first it will put an indicator on the display(s) that tell you to apply slight turning pressure to the wheel. Then the display will flash and it have that same indicator. Then it beeps at you with a red indicator. If you ignore that, then autopilot/fsd/autosteer turns off and you can't turn it back on until you put the car in park and back in drive again. People have found a number of ways to game the system. IMO it needs to be improved quite a bit, but that's how it is right now. They've recently started including cameras in all models instead of just the 3 and Y that also make sure you're looking at the road. Mine doesn't have that, though. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChocoboMog123 08/23/22 8:23:57 PM #43: |
Kamen_Rider_Blade posted... Would you trust the machine to ID a perp with visual recognition over your ability to ID a perp in person using your own eyes?There are AIs or simple formulas than many people are at their jobs: https://youtu.be/5eW6Eagr9XA?t=749 Maybe AI driving should just take over for bad drivers, or in certain conditions. --- "You're sorely underestimating the power of nostalgia goggles." - adjl http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110218.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RenescoStCewl 08/23/22 8:43:51 PM #44: |
CableZL posted... Statistically, it is safer. Full self driving is not currently anywhere near ready for prime time, but there are multiple warnings about that. It is only rolled out to a small portion of the fleet at this time.What's the point of autopilot if you have to keep your hands on the wheel and pay attention? It takes the same effort and attention as just driving yourself. --- He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RlP 08/23/22 8:54:36 PM #45: |
Remember that full self driving DLC costs 15K, so add that to the cost of the poor driver. --- Go and watch Ef ~ A tale of memories now! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/23/22 10:03:16 PM #46: |
RenescoStCewl posted... What's the point of autopilot if you have to keep your hands on the wheel and pay attention? It takes the same effort and attention as just driving yourself.It doesn't take the same effort. With autopilot, you're basically supervising the work the car is doing instead of manually making all driving decisions yourself. I've found that on long drives with autopilot, I don't get driver's fatigue at all. FSD is pretty stressful in its current stage, though. It does marginally OK, but it's got quite a ways to go before it's ready to be rolled out to the entire fleet. It's better than it was a year ago, for sure, but... Still not great. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 08/23/22 10:05:04 PM #47: |
a drop in the bucket compared to all the deaths caused by human drivers every single day --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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