Current Events > Does Switch have any good exclusive rpgs not Xenoblade?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Nothing I can already get on the ps4

Bravely Default 2, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Octopath Traveler, SMTV, Monster Hunter Stories 2, Pokemon Legends, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Rune Factory 5, and Monster Hunter Rise (depending on how you view action RPGs). There are also a lot of solid indie ones like Golf Story, but many of them are a bit more hit or miss.

I hear that Triangle Strategy is good.

I just finished SMT V and it had its ups and downs but overall was good imo

ellis123 posted...

Bravely Default 2, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Octopath Traveler, SMTV, Monster Hunter Stories 2, Pokemon Legends, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Rune Factory 5, and Monster Hunter Rise (depending on how you view action RPGs). There are also a lot of solid indie ones like Golf Story, but many of them are a bit more hit or miss.

Octopath and I believe Monster Hunter are on steam.

ellis123 posted...

Tokyo Mirage Sessions

What is this game I've never heard of it before. Also I just remembered there was another Tokyo game called Tokyo Xanadu on ps4 and I keep debating getting it

saspa posted...

What is this game I've never heard of it before. Also I just remembered there was another Tokyo game called Tokyo Xanadu on ps4 and I keep debating getting it

An unholy mix of Persona, SMT, and Fire Emblem made by Atlus. It has a really fun battle system actually.

I wish I could like fire emblem because of roy and marth but I only like turn based and action rpg, never cared for strategy or rts

Father_ posted...

Octopath and I believe Monster Hunter are on steam.

To be fair, TC said not available on PS4. But yes, they are. And so are Bravely Default 2 and Rune Factory 5.

g0ldie posted...

I hear that Triangle Strategy is good.

The battle system is great and the story is really good but they use about 3 times the dialogue they need to tell the story. Loooooooong cut scenes.

that sucks, because if I had a Switch, that would have been one of the first games I would be thinking of picking up.

bsp77 posted...

An unholy mix of Persona, SMT, and Fire Emblem made by Atlus. It has a really fun battle system actually.

I was just about to say, quickly checked some videos and was immediately hit with a bunch of flashy colors and pop concert. It's like someone looked at persona and wanted to copy all its style and pop soundtrack and school atmosphere.

Oh it's made by Atlus. Yeah that makes sense. Lol so basically this is what they did for the Switch instead of the persona games?

saspa posted...

I was just about to say, quickly checked some videos and was immediately hit with a bunch of flashy colors and pop concert. It's like someone looked at persona and wanted to copy all its style and pop soundtrack and school atmosphere.

Oh it's made by Atlus. Yeah that makes sense. Lol so basically this is what they did for the Switch instead of the persona games?

it was a Wii U game that they ported

saspa posted...

I was just about to say, quickly checked some videos and was immediately hit with a bunch of flashy colors and pop concert. It's like someone looked at persona and wanted to copy all its style and pop soundtrack and school atmosphere.

Oh it's made by Atlus. Yeah that makes sense. Lol so basically this is what they did for the Switch instead of the persona games?

Technically they did it for the Wii U. But since nobody actually bought one of those, they ported it over.

bsp77 posted...

The battle system is great and the story is really good but they use about 3 times the dialogue they need to tell the story. Loooooooong cut scenes.

g0ldie posted...

that sucks, because if I had a Switch, that would have been one of the first games I would be thinking of picking up.

Actually, this is why I have lost patience with Xenoblade 3 the last week. I know a lot of people enjoy JRPG stories, but they seriously need to shut the fuck up. Like let's make sure one of the girls chimes with something cute to say after everyone else already decided what to do. Seriously, shut the fuck up. I don't care if you are cute.

Ive heard live a live was good

Father_ posted...

Octopath and I believe Monster Hunter are on steam.

He directly implied not available on PS4. There are plenty on that list that are available on Steam, but none of them are available on PS4.

saspa posted...

What is this game I've never heard of it before. Also I just remembered there was another Tokyo game called Tokyo Xanadu on ps4 and I keep debating getting it

It's SMT with light Fire Emblem flavoring. It's fun if you can get over the idol aspects as there are a lot of rather novel ideas at play, or if the fact that the Fire Emblem stuff is utterly wasted (if you go into it wanting Fire Emblem stuff you will be left really unsatisfied). It has very little to do with Xanadu outside of location, which kind of means that you are looking at trope similarities.

bsp77 posted...

The battle system is great and the story is really good but they use about 3 times the dialogue they need to tell the story. Loooooooong cut scenes.

Not really. Chapter 1-5, sure, but 6+ (and there are over 20 chapters...) are all normal. The demo really has destroyed people's impressions of the game because it is extremely dialog-lite compared to basically every other "dialog heavy" game post chapter 5.

saspa posted...

What is this game I've never heard of it before. Also I just remembered there was another Tokyo game called Tokyo Xanadu on ps4 and I keep debating getting it

Tokyo Mirage Sessions is the Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei crossover game that originally released in the Wii U. It feels much closer to a Persona game than SMT or Fire Emblem, so it got a really mixed reception.

The combat system is pay fun though, so I'd give it a try if you don't mind a kind of ridiculous story lol

And Tokyo Xanadu is a Nihom Falcom game. They are the developers of the Ys and Trails series. It plays pretty similarly to Ys, if you've played those. Pretty fun game, but the dungeons are very... hallway filled lol

ellis123 posted...

Not really. Chapter 1-5, sure, but 6+ (and there are over 20 chapters...) are all normal. The demo really has destroyed people's impressions of the game because it is extremely dialog-lite compared to basically every other "dialog heavy" game post chapter 5.

Yeah, really. I beat it on golden path. Maybe it goes from 30 minutes of yapping per chapter to 20 minutes, but still way too much.

MaxEffingBemis posted...

Ive heard live a live was good

Live A Live is very good, sometimes I forget I'm playing a 30 year old game because at times it feels like a retro game that was made recently. The element that snaps me back to reality is how brief the scenarios feel, like, this was clearly a game originally made in a rush on the limitations of a 16 megabit cartridge. A proper sequel to the game - and it's central conceit allows a lot to work with, as far as the imagination goes - could be really amazing.

bsp77 posted...

Yeah, really. I beat it on golden path. Maybe it goes from 30 minutes of yapping per chapter to 20 minutes, but still way too much.

I'm a pretty fast reader and I *severely* doubt that it was taking you 30 minutes to do Chapter 1-5. Several of them took almost 35 minutes for me. Inversely I would say that all of the non-Golden chapters took 15 minutes at most (Golden Route ones could definitely get up to 20, though).

ellis123 posted...

I'm a pretty fast reader and I *severely* doubt that it was taking you 30 minutes to do Chapter 1-5. Several of them took almost 35 minutes for me. Inversely I would say that all of the non-Golden chapters took 15 minutes at most (Golden Route ones could definitely get up to 20, though).

Howlongtobeat.com

33 hours for main story
47 hours for main + extra

It simply isn't that fast and literally half the game is reading dialogue. I am guessing you simply have a lot more patience for JRPGs than I do and you simply don't notice. I wish it didn't bug me. My gf almost quit because of the constant dialogue.

I should mention that it doesn't matter how fast of a reader you are because the game does all these stupid little animations between their different lines and also does that "" thing all the fucking time that can't be sped up.

But as I said, great combat and great overarching story.

bsp77 posted...

Howlongtobeat.com

33 hours for main story
47 hours for main + extra

It simply isn't that fast and literally half the game is reading dialogue. I am guessing you simply have a lot more patience for JRPGs than I do and you simply don't notice. I wish it didn't bug me. My gf almost quit because of the constant dialogue.

I should mention that it doesn't matter how fast of a reader you are because the game does all these stupid little animations between their different lines and also does that "" thing all the fucking time that can't be sped up.

But as I said, great combat and great overarching story.

I mean, you aren't exactly refuting my point. 33 hours isn't referring to just the text, it's referring to actually playing through the game. I'm not saying that the game is fast, heck some of the tactical battles easily take over an hour on your first go through + some can easily take multiples of tries (especially if you aren't trying to set off the bombs... *cough*).

And yeah there is definitely time eaten up by the animations but even then I've found that over the long haul that with any game with any real amount of text being able to read fast dramatically outweighs any amount of animations done. CrossCode was brought up recently and I feel that the main reason I was 15-20 hours spent less than everyone else was entirely because of my reading fast. And that game had practically nothing in terms of overall dialog + large amounts of character animation (and I severely doubt it could have been based on my somehow being better/because they did more of the content than me).

Earthbound Zero (Beginnings) but I dont recommend playing with the switch emulator.

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ellis123 posted...

I mean, you aren't exactly refuting my point. 33 hours isn't referring to just the text, it's referring to actually playing through the game. I'm not saying that the game is fast, heck some of the tactical battles easily take over an hour on your first go through + some can easily take multiples of tries (especially if you aren't trying to set off the bombs... *cough*).

And yeah there is definitely time eaten up by the animations but even then I've found that over the long haul that with any game with any real amount of text being able to read fast dramatically outweighs any amount of animations done. CrossCode was brought up recently and I feel that the main reason I was 15-20 hours spent less than everyone else was entirely because of my reading fast. And that game had practically nothing in terms of overall dialog + large amounts of character animation (and I severely doubt it could have been based on my somehow being better/because they did more of the content than me).

Multiple attempts don't count toward official time. I think mine was 42 hours? But I actually did time some of the dialogue scenes between battles. I only did this because I often playing right before work and didn't have a ton of time. They were typically around 20 minutes (including all optional dialogues that pop up) and that is with reading fast. There were a few chapters where it was less than 10 minutes, and I was like thank god.

As I said, you probably have more patience for JRPG dialogue than me and didn't notice.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Live A Live is very good, sometimes I forget I'm playing a 30 year old game because at times it feels like a retro game that was made recently. The element that snaps me back to reality is how brief the scenarios feel, like, this was clearly a game originally made in a rush on the limitations of a 16 megabit cartridge. A proper sequel to the game - and it's central conceit allows a lot to work with, as far as the imagination goes - could be really amazing.

Well Octopath is pretty much a successor to it

mehmeh1 posted...

Well Octopath is pretty much a successor to it

I was thinking of trying it, but that kills any interest.

TwoDoorPC posted...

paper mario the origami king

Also Mario & Rabbid. Honestly, Switch is the console of choice if you want recent rpgs. Even besides jrpgs, wrpgs are more likely to be indie these days and Switch is pretty welcoming to indies.

NoxObscuras posted...

Tokyo Mirage Sessions is the Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei crossover game that originally released in the Wii U. It feels much closer to a Persona game than SMT or Fire Emblem, so it got a really mixed reception.

The combat system is pay fun though, so I'd give it a try if you don't mind a kind of ridiculous story lol

And Tokyo Xanadu is a Nihom Falcom game. They are the developers of the Ys and Trails series. It plays pretty similarly to Ys, if you've played those. Pretty fun game, but the dungeons are very... hallway filled lol

Hallway filled as in they're long or they're very linear or what is meant by that exactly?

saspa posted...

Hallway filled as in they're long or they're very linear or what is meant by that exactly?

The dungeons have lots and lots of hallways. The dungeons are pretty linear and can be long, but you spend the majority of it in hallways.

saspa posted...

Hallway filled as in they're long or they're very linear or what is meant by that exactly?

Basically what Stagmar said. Lots and lots of hallways. Like, don't get me wrong, it's a fun game that I enjoyed enough to go for the platinum trophy. But the game was originally a PS Vita game, so the dungeon design is pretty linear. Here's a map of one of the dungeons, for example

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/5/AAQgjdAADlkb.jpg

bsp77 posted...

Howlongtobeat.com

33 hours for main story
47 hours for main + extra

It simply isn't that fast and literally half the game is reading dialogue. I am guessing you simply have a lot more patience for JRPGs than I do and you simply don't notice. I wish it didn't bug me. My gf almost quit because of the constant dialogue.

I should mention that it doesn't matter how fast of a reader you are because the game does all these stupid little animations between their different lines and also does that "" thing all the fucking time that can't be sped up.

But as I said, great combat and great overarching story.

I can't even imagine what you think of the Dragon Quest series if you already feel this way about actually good series

saspa posted...

I can't even imagine what you think of the Dragon Quest series if you already feel this way about actually good series

I liked the last Dragon Quest. It usually didn't talk for as extended of a time. Half of Triangle Strategy is talking. Not true for Dragon Quest.

Xenoblade 3

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I still prefer HG/SS, but it's definitely the best of the recent crop. Once they moved to the French region(the one with fairy types), I feel like the games have gone downhill.

The core gameplay is still fine because it's so simple you just have to add small tweaks every couple of generations, but everything outside of battles has gotten awful. They try to make these deeper stories but they're still at their heart written so that 7 year olds can understand, so what you end up with is a game that's constantly interrupting itself as soon as the gameplay starts to feed you an awful story.

They're also overly handholdy now. You get funneled along a set, predictable path with the same amount of trainers that each have 1-2 Pokemon. It's just boring.

Now, Arceus might still have a poor story but it actually lets you just go out and play the game, and playing the game is done how a Pokemon game should be. You just go out in the wilderness and catch every pokemon in sight and every now and then you battle another trainer. It's simple and it works because that's all Pokemon needs to be.

codey posted...

I still prefer HG/SS, but it's definitely the best of the recent crop. Once they moved to the French region(the one with fairy types), I feel like the games have gone downhill.

The core gameplay is still fine because it's so simple you just have to add small tweaks every couple of generations, but everything outside of battles has gotten awful. They try to make these deeper stories but they're still at their heart written so that 7 year olds can understand, so what you end up with is a game that's constantly interrupting itself as soon as the gameplay starts to feed you an awful story.

They're also overly handholdy now. You get funneled along a set, predictable path with the same amount of trainers that each have 1-2 Pokemon. It's just boring.

Now, Arceus might still have a poor story but it actually lets you just go out and play the game, and playing the game is done how a Pokemon game should be. You just go out in the wilderness and catch every pokemon in sight and every now and then you battle another trainer. It's simple and it works because that's all Pokemon needs to be.

You may like SV since it's gonna be full open world

Paper Mario: Origami King is the best "new" style Paper Mario game by a long shot. I know that might not be saying much to some of you but it is actually a great game.

SMTV was not my cup of tea. I found it to be pretty bland. The story that was there was so rushed I'd actually prefer it not be included. The best thing I will say about it is the soundtrack captures the post apocalypse wandering through a demonic demon wasteland better than any other soundtrack I've ever heard. There's little elements of shoegaze in there that drive me wild.

earthbound zero is awesome. earthbound is great too.

earthbound zero has a level of grit that you just don't get in earthbound.

i like my rpgs bitter, not sweet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_Switch-only_games
SMT5 and Triangle Strategy seem obvious contenders. May not remain exclusive, though.

Robot2600 posted...

earthbound zero is awesome. earthbound is great too.

earthbound zero has a level of grit that you just don't get in earthbound.

i like my rpgs bitter, not sweet.

The heck is earthbound zero I don't see it on the switch store. I always felt that earthbound is one of those concepts I'd love to play if the original was just tweaked and improved, but solid idea.

saspa posted...

The heck is earthbound zero I don't see it on the switch store. I always felt that earthbound is one of those concepts I'd love to play if the original was just tweaked and improved, but solid idea.

It is called Earthbound Beginnings on Switch.
The series is called Mother in Japan, and the first game was released on the Famicom. An English translation was made, it was renamed Earthbound and then it got cancelled because the Snes was around the corner.
The sequel, Mother 2, was released on Snes and released in English as Earthbound.
Years later, a cartridge containing the English Nes version was found and dumped. Since it shared the same name as the Snes game, the group dumping it hacked the title screen to Earthbound Zero. The game has been known as that since then, even if the name got changed for the Switch release.

Foppe posted...

It is called Earthbound Beginnings on Switch.
The series is called Mother in Japan, and the first game was released on the Famicom. An English translation was made, it was renamed Earthbound and then it got cancelled because the Snes was around the corner.
The sequel, Mother 2, was released on Snes and released in English as Earthbound.
Years later, a cartridge containing the English Nes version was found and dumped. Since it shared the same name as the Snes game, the group dumping it hacked the title screen to Earthbound Zero. The game has been known as that since then, even if the name got changed for the Switch release.

Oh I actually played a bit of a game called mother that a friend gave me. It felt like a precursor to earthbound, it was basically earthbound but in black and white and even had a proto Ness lookalike

saspa posted...

Oh I actually played a bit of a game called mother that a friend gave me. It felt like a precursor to earthbound, it was basically earthbound but in black and white and even had a proto Ness lookalike

Yeah you played Earthbound Beginnings/Zero

I know it's not exclusive to the Switch but I've been playing Dragon Quest Builders 2 NONSTOP for the past several weeks. Such an addicting game, and I'm definitely late to the party on the whole DQ builders series. The Switch has a ton of good RPGS! Three Houses is worth putting some time into, it definitely is an acquired taste but the game has a ton of replayability.

I'm also looking forward to the new Dragon Quest Treasures game, which is exclusive and is coming out in a few months.

codey posted...

I still prefer HG/SS, but it's definitely the best of the recent crop. Once they moved to the French region(the one with fairy types), I feel like the games have gone downhill.

That's surprising. I don't play pokemon but the fairy type seems like the best addition to the franchise in decades, not since dark has there finally been balance brought to the type matching with dragon being so broken before and poison being so useless.

Stagmar posted...

I was thinking of trying it, but that kills any interest.

I'm going to be straight with you, I don't really understand why people keep comparing Octopath Traveler to Live A Live. They're nothing alike in my opinion, though I do like both games.