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IdiotMachine
08/12/22 11:08:07 AM
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Being a parent sucks ass.

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Questionmarktarius
08/12/22 11:08:40 AM
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Get one where the rear seats fold down, and you can pretend to not be a parent sometimes.
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Bishop_Hastur
08/12/22 11:10:40 AM
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What minivan are you getting?

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IdiotMachine
08/12/22 11:13:11 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Get one where the rear seats fold down, and you can pretend to not be a parent sometimes.
We're looking at the Pacifica Plug-In Hybrid Pinnacle model for like $60k before tax credits. Reasons:
*Cheapest new minivan we can find is around $40k, and with extra features we want (driving assist, since this will be a cross country car as well when we decide to do that), it's closer to $50k.
*The Pacifica Plug-In Hybrid gives $7500 federal credit + $2500 state credit, so it's -$10000 off whatever we pay.
*The Limited trim plus the driver assist features is like $500 less than the Pinnacle (which is fully loaded by default), and the Pinnacle comes with better stuff.

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R1masher
08/12/22 11:13:23 AM
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Get Cheerios too

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IdiotMachine
08/12/22 10:09:18 PM
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I did it. Went and spent $60k.

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Questionmarktarius
08/12/22 10:11:15 PM
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Anyone have an opinion on Chevy Trax?
My current car is actively disintegrating, and that's the least awful option I've seen as a replacement.
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electricbugs2
08/12/22 10:12:25 PM
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Shoulda waited for the inevitable Pacifica Hellcat so you can decimate other parents on the way to soccer practice.

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Trumpo
08/12/22 10:16:10 PM
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Lol sucker you bought new at the peak. Did they lube you up first before signing your life away?

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BLooD_WoLf
08/12/22 10:17:17 PM
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make sure to get a bumper sticker that says one of the following:

  1. I used to be cool.
  2. Ain't no shame in the minivan game
  3. Cool minivan! -nobody
  4. "I'll never get a minivan"
  5. 2 in the front, 5 in the rear
  6. There's hella kids up in this bitch


or don't idc

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Questionmarktarius
08/12/22 10:20:37 PM
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BLooD_WoLf posted...
1. I used to be cool.
2. Ain't no shame in the minivan game
3. Cool minivan! -nobody
4. "I'll never get a minivan"
5. 2 in the front, 5 in the rear
6. There's hella kids up in this bitch
Deadhead sticker is all of these at once.

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IdiotMachine
08/12/22 11:37:53 PM
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Trumpo posted...
Lol sucker you bought new at the peak. Did they lube you up first before signing your life away?
I guess you don't know that the $7500 credit will effectively be going away next year... So no, I didn't buy it at the "peak".

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Weezy_Tha_Don
08/12/22 11:43:08 PM
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should post this on the cars/trucks board. those guys can give you really good advice if you needed additional input

edit: nevermind my bad, didnt read all the posts. looks like you went for it

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IfGodCouldDie
08/12/22 11:57:07 PM
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How many kids you got?

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IdiotMachine
08/13/22 8:37:15 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
How many kids you got?
1, with plans of having 2 total. However, my parents can't drive and we drive them around, so we do need a bigger vehicle already.

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Ilishe
08/13/22 8:57:40 AM
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Minivan for 1 kid?

I mean, okay, you know your situation.

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MrResetti
08/13/22 9:02:05 AM
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If the truck is paid off I'd keep it. Which it sounds like you did if you spent 60k still.

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kelemvor
08/13/22 9:02:26 AM
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Minivans are actually cool again. Their sales have doubled and they are hard to find. I wanted a KIA Carnival but all the nice ones were gone.

I ended up getting a 2020 Durango R/T brand new for 40K.

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IdiotMachine
08/13/22 9:04:22 AM
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MrResetti posted...
If the truck is paid off I'd keep it. Which it sounds like you did if you spent 60k still.
It is paid off. But if I have a minivan, don't really need a truck... Since I bought the truck back in 2019, I've only ever hauled stuff like less than 10 times, and all of those times, a minivan could have fit all that crap I put on the truck bed.

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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/22 9:11:37 AM
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IdiotMachine posted...
1, with plans of having 2 total. However, my parents can't drive and we drive them around, so we do need a bigger vehicle already.
Fair enough.

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NeonOctopus
08/13/22 9:25:38 AM
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Is this what it's like to watch the soul of a person die?

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IdiotMachine
08/15/22 6:06:01 PM
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I signed the binding agreement today. So even with the new law, we should be good to get that $7500 credit.

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HudGard
08/15/22 6:08:01 PM
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Trading in my car for a truck soon!

But the wife is taking the truck and I get the minivan. ;(
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NoxObscuras
08/15/22 6:15:53 PM
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Hey man, you do what you gotta do. I'm still firmly in the "I'll never buy a minivan" camp. I only have 1 kid, but I'm actively dating, so who knows what the future will hold lol.

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littlebro07
08/15/22 6:22:27 PM
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I really wanted a Kia Carnival, they're so damn nice and look more like an SUV than minivan IMO

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divot1338
08/15/22 6:34:00 PM
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Buying any car right now is a terrible idea and you absolutely threw away a bunch of money.

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NoxObscuras
08/15/22 6:46:00 PM
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divot1338 posted...
Buying any car right now is a terrible idea and you absolutely threw away a bunch of money.
It's a good time to buy if you have a good vehicle to trade in. Used car prices are nuts.

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Flockaveli
08/15/22 6:51:25 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Anyone have an opinion on Chevy Trax?
My current car is actively disintegrating, and that's the least awful option I've seen as a replacement.
My girlfriend has one and we love it. AWD in a small package. She's only had it a year so we'll see how it goes but so far so really stinking good.
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divot1338
08/15/22 6:51:37 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
It's a good time to buy if you have a good vehicle to trade in. Used car prices are nuts.
Its a good time to sell.

Its a bad time to buy. New car prices are even more insane than used.

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IdiotMachine
08/15/22 6:52:43 PM
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divot1338 posted...
Buying any car right now is a terrible idea and you absolutely threw away a bunch of money.
Clearly you don't know what you're talking about with respect to this specific purchase, that I already explained multiple times in this topic.

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divot1338
08/15/22 6:56:22 PM
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IdiotMachine posted...
Clearly you don't know what you're talking about with respect to this specific purchase, that I already explained multiple times in this topic.
I went and priced vehicles two weekends ago.

Not only are prices fucking ridiculous but you dont even get to pick what you want. You buy with the options available or you dont buy at all.

Your money though. Its already wasted. This is more for the benefit of anyone else.

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littlebro07
08/15/22 7:01:36 PM
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divot1338 posted...
I went and priced vehicles two weekends ago.

Not only are prices fucking ridiculous but you dont even get to pick what you want. You buy with the options available or you dont buy at all.

Your money though. Its already wasted. This is more for the benefit of anyone else.

You can get vehicles the way you want at MSRP, you just have to special order them from the dealer and wait several months for it to get there. And get the price down in writing so they can't surprise you when it actually arrives on the lot.

Ordered a Kia K5 GT-Line this morning, salesman said I'd probably have it in 2-4 months but sometimes they come sooner and sometimes they come later. Just his experience that most are in the 2-4 month window.

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IdiotMachine
08/15/22 7:14:09 PM
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divot1338 posted...
I went and priced vehicles two weekends ago.

Not only are prices fucking ridiculous but you dont even get to pick what you want. You buy with the options available or you dont buy at all.

Your money though. Its already wasted. This is more for the benefit of anyone else.
Clearly, still didn't take the hint.

I'll summarize it for you:
  • Chrysler Pacifica Plug-In Hybrid, the only minivan that qualifies for $7500 tax credit, will no longer qualify starting tomorrow when Biden signs the bill.
  • There's a transition period where if you signed before Biden signs, the old tax laws count.
Therefore, unless I can get this minivan for $10,000 cheaper ($7500+$2500 tax) in a couple of years, which will never happen even during a normal market, it's smarter to buy now.

Besides, you also don't know what you're talking about with buying cars with dealers. I negotiated $3000 off MSRP before signing, and they're ordering exactly what I want from the manufacturer, which is fully loaded anyway (the Pinnacle trim).

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ssj3vegeta
08/17/22 8:11:12 PM
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A van? wtf, if i would ever trade my truck it'd be for an escalade or other badass looking SUV, not a shitty soccer mom van lmao

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IdiotMachine
08/17/22 8:28:35 PM
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IRS guidelines came into effect:
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/plug-in-electric-vehicle-credit-irc-30-and-irc-30d

Pacifica Plug-In Hybrid 2022 qualifies even if I purchased it as late as 12/31/22, but will not qualify starting 1/1/23. That means I could have had 4 more months to negotiate.... Bleh.

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eggcorn
08/17/22 8:33:24 PM
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IdiotMachine posted...
1, with plans of having 2 total. However, my parents can't drive and we drive them around, so we do need a bigger vehicle already.
Sounds like your parents need the minivan

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