Current Events > Its crazy how many guilty gear lore masters there are now.

(+) Yeah! (+)

especially seeing as how 99 percent of you have never put more than 10+ hours playing the franchise lol

all I know is there's drama about the main characters

The most recent game in the series is the highest selling so of course it has more eyes on it and people learning the lore. What a weird gatekeepey topic.

CinderLock posted...

The most recent game in the series is the highest selling so of course it has more eyes on it and people learning the lore. What a weird gatekeepey topic.

Nah none of these people are real fans of the series. Do they even know what an FRC is?

Didn't think so

I like the chick with the pumpkin mask

baiken2 posted...

Nah none of these people are real fans of the series. Do they even know what an FRC is?

Didn't think so

A force Roman cancel. You don't have to have played or watched something from the beginning to be a "real fan" saying who can or can't be fans is stupid

I have to applaud how consistently terrible your topics are.

Murphiroth posted...

I have to applaud how consistently terrible your topics are.

It's really a waste of such a good account name. The 2 probably drives them crazy though.

nfearurspecimn posted...

all I know is there's drama about the main characters

There is drama over more than one?

CinderLock posted...

A force Roman cancel. You don't have to have played or watched something from the beginning to be a "real fan" saying who can or can't be fans is stupid

Sure and I'm sure these people have played Strive for 10 hours plus.

I haven't but have 1000 + hours in acr lol

baiken2 posted...

Sure and I'm sure these people have played Strive for 10 hours plus.

I haven't but have 1000 + hours in acr lol

So then you're not really a fan then if you haven't played much of the latest one hurr durr

CinderLock posted...

So then you're not really a fan then if you haven't played much of the latest one hurr durr

No I just realize these people are just as toxic as the yamato agenda people from OP

They have taken your insta kills and left your fanbase an infestation of Twitter users in its place.

idk about the lore but I love May xD. Im a May main and shes just so fun!! People get so trolled by the dolphin, and her voice lines are so cute like when she says TOTSUGEKI LOL! Shes super random but also smarter than she looks, just like me xD

baiken2 posted...

No I just realize these people are just as toxic as the yamato agenda people from OP

Oh come on man, don't be a coward and only go half mask, go full mask off.

The Yamato agenda crowd loved telling people to kill themselves over a cartoon character lol

Tropendrope posted...

idk about the lore but I love May xD. Im a May main and shes just so fun!! People get so trolled by the dolphin, and her voice lines are so cute like when she says TOTSUGEKI LOL! Shes super random but also smarter than she looks, just like me xD

The fact that I recognize this copypasta lmao

Eh, I love the games and have played hundreds of hours but have never really kept up with the lore in much depth. Gatekeeping in general is lame but people can enjoy things for different aspects, whether that be lore, gameplay, or both

Yeah all of a sudden everyone cares about the lore of Bridget and are bending over backwards to lie to themselves about her being trans lol

I used to play GGX2 all fucking day back in the PS2 era.

And I really couldn't tell you much about the lore beyond there are some monsters called Gears, the Japanese are special for some reason, and there were knights that would hunt down gears. Or something.

Maybe a little something about each character I played.

I want to fuck Jack-O
That's all I know about Guilty Gear lore.

im all about I-No

Never played Guilty Gear

But I simp for Elphelt.

I agree with baiken2 for once. Bridget is portrayed as trans and suddenly there's all these freaked out weirdos going "this is an affront to the original character! It's in a bad ending!! BAD ENDING!!!".

Granted, the Guilty Gear community took Testament pretty well, and they were the character I thought people would throw massive bitch-fits about. But that makes the Bridget backlash that much stranger.

There were jokes for years about how Bridget was so feminine that you could post them and get people thirst-posting, and then reveal that the character was canonically a guy for lulz. There were two ways they could reconcile Bridget for a modern audience: make the character a massive beefcake like Potemkin or Kum, revealing them like a new character and catching people off-guard by revealing it's Bridget, or you could make Bridget a trans girl.

The first one might have been funny to a point, but frankly, the second one preserves the visual appeal of the character and I personally like the journey of finding yourself, as unexpected as the end goal is. Bridget is a girl. It's very life-affirming - she's been through a lot, she's never comfortable being perceived by people, and she finally embraces her womanhood with the care and support of others.

But according to this fuckin army of naysayers, this is disrespectful to the character and it's a jarringly bad turn that makes the game worse. And I do want to ask, how many of these people are dyed in the wool GG fans? How many of them enjoyed the games and waited out the hiatus? How many of them played the Xrd games? Because I'm seeing more backlash to this Bridget scenario than I've seen people talking about the franchise over the past 10 years.

There's gatekeeping, and there's seeing a disproportionate reaction to a property you love and being wary of this wave of supposed lore purists that you haven't seen for the majority of your fandom. I don't agree with most of baiken2's posting, but they're right about this.

The people complaining about Bridget aren't even actual fans of the series, they're fans of porn of the series.

Man, I forgot how cool some of the terms GG has. Roman Cancels just sounds bad ass and so on brand.

But I only ever got into the PSP one when I found a import copy. I think it was XX? Long before all these good ones and newer ones have come out. Im out of practice now too.

Strive and KOF15 look awesome.

MrMallard posted...

There were two ways they could reconcile Bridget for a modern audience

No, there were three ways, and one of the three was keeping the character as a feminine male. There is nothing wrong with feminine men.

I'm here mostly for the music ngl

(at least it's a franchise I've actually played though lol)

I never cared about the lore. I played because the characters looked unique and ridiculous.

I don't know jack shit about guilty gear. Looks pretty. Any good for people that just want a cool single player campaign? Or is it lacking there

Most of the characters were so weird and had off-the-wall crazy backstories, I just didn't bother to read into any of them. The games were just fun to play.

Hoodroar posted...

No, there were three ways, and one of the three was keeping the character as a feminine male. There is nothing wrong with feminine men.

I feel like that would have been a rehash though. "Haha oopsie doopsie I'm a boy in a skirt, aren't I cute tee-hee" has been done. This is a choice that pushes the character forward.

Like Bridget fulfilled her character arc in XX/AC. To have her in a femme outfit years later would require some other convoluted reason for her to still be presenting as a woman. That, or you make her a metrosexual or queer-coded guy with a flamboyant dressing style, which doesn't feel like Bridget. And frankly, the queer coding is still right there - so I don't get why the distinction between cis and trans is that much of a sore spot for you.

So to me, there are two options. You can have Beefcake McMuscles with a carpet of blond chest hair, or you can have a femme Bridget that addresses her character and fan-favorite presentation in a way that feels fun and validating as well as staying true to the visual design that people love about her.

Like even if you had Bridget remain a cisgender guy who dresses like a really cute woman, with the explanation being "he likes dressing like that", the queer reading is still very much there. The only thing that changes is whether that reading is text or subtext.

Like I've seen you in multiple topics being assblasted about Bridget. Legitimately asking, what's your baggage regarding this character development? Is your beef solely "femboy erasure", or is there something more?