Board 8 > Baseball Musical Mafia Topic 7 - Scum Strikeout

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I like how you conveniently ignore that I nailed two Scum with my first post in that game. You like to focus on the part where you specialed me, the Doctor, in a move that was so anti-Town that it made no sense for you to be Town in that game.

And remember what happened after the game?

I was nice to you.

I'm going to keep doing that. No matter how much you would rather throw barbs at me, I'm going to still forgive you and not gun for you for making an honest mistake.

Speaking of honest mistakes, you claimed before Corrik. If you were telling the truth right now, then Corrik could 100% be Scum with you as Town. Him saying that you are what you claimed is nothing more than a soft buddy that also conveniently drops the term "Town Untargetable" without it being proven.

UltimaterializerX posted...

scum would keep the info hidden

what would they keep hidden?

Or they could just claim a Detective scan on you and kill you.

To answer IGCD (should he find the new topic faster than Ben)

Yes I was asking you. Though fortunately for you, you missed a lot.

UltimaterializerX posted...

So Corrik, as scum, fakes a detective scan on me that magically outs my real town role, to confirm me town for no real reason, and then doesnt kill me on night 2?

Didn't you claim prior to his action reveal?

UltimaterializerX posted...

I feel good about my Scum Ben read

UltimaterializerX posted...

So Corrik, as scum, fakes a detective scan on me that magically outs my real town role, to confirm me town for no real reason, and then doesnt kill me on night 2?

It would also be needlessly confirming Bens role when hes a potential mislynch target. We just lost a game by killing a town untargetable.

Now that looks like a perspective slip.

Its possible Corrik as scum didnt know your real role and just pretended like he did because
A. He is Corrik
B. Even if you werent a Princess, he could say he guessed so and was just helping you maintain your cover.

Also how can we explain Corrik moving to Lea then if he is town?

UltimaterializerX posted...

I claimed before Corrik, I think. So I dont see a world where he is scum and confirms my town role.

I also don't see a world where Corrik is looking for town clearance by anyone in a game, let alone YOU.

The funny thing is, if Ulti thinks that Corrik is a Town Detective with a real scan, then he never thinks that Ben is Scum.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik is not detective. I am none of the roles he claims to have turned up. We can drop the princess chatter; I made a silly fake claim to try baiting shots/actions and it did not work. Clearly. I never have been or will be good at baiting scum shots, for whatever reason. That said, I am honestly willing to consider Corrik as a scanner, under if not him then who? logic.

I will say, what if there are no scanners?

1. We know Chris likes that type of game
2. Having journals in this game instantly makes any scanner extra powerful and a terrible nuisance for scum to deal with.
3. Lots of protection already seems likely. Its a game with lots of protection and no scanners imo

Well to be fair. I am concerned that Ben hasn't reacted to this yet.

D'oh!

Interesting post to respond to, Ben. Interesting choice.

UltimaterializerX posted...

because if Im sitting here risking getting fired for phone time when Im supposed to be working for that I will never forgive him.

This is so low. You are an adult. Get off your phone and work if it's that much of an issue. You've already said your piece, you don't really need to be around anymore. Game will be here when you're off work.

Ulti please, your work is more important.

Actually scum scanner in this style of game might be useful? Give them a POE of roles to guess to gain extra power

Bad timing to say that since Han just claimed watcher. I am at work glancing at the game when I can. >_>

I thought about scumscanners and felt it was unfair to make it that easy for scum to use the anticlaim. At least with roles like scum rolecop or scum detective.
Its supposed to be our claiming that gets punished after all..

Corriks detective scans conveniently were claims already known anyway, which is why I didn't believe that part of his claim either

UltimaterializerX posted...

So go ahead. Mislynch a princess that upgrades into an auto town win tomorrow. You will never hear the end of it. My claim on day two was 100% the truth. If I live until tomorrow morning, town wins. These are facts. I also claimed that long, long before any suspicion was ever going to be on me.

If this was ever true, why DID you claim it?

Hey Ulti, I have more questions for you. When do you get off work? I will ask them then.

PunishedBen posted...

If this was ever true, why DID you claim it?

He did say he had to claim Princess for the power to activate.

htaeD posted...

Also how can we explain Corrik moving to Lea then if he is town?

I missed this, but Corrik isn't the other person who targeted Lea.

I'm staying quiet because they haven't claimed yet, and if they don't, then they know they're dead anyway.

htaeD posted...

I thought about scumscanners and felt it was unfair to make it that easy for scum to use the anticlaim. At least with roles like scum rolecop or scum detective.
Its supposed to be our claiming that gets punished after all..

Uggg, if that doesn't read like sourgrapes.

VOTALS FOR THE 3rd INNING
[2] Corrik - (Han), (Ben), (Han), Corrik, Ben
[2] HB - (Han), Sultan, Ulti
[1] Ben - (Sultan), (Han), (Ulti)
[1] IGCD - HB, (Ulti)
[0] SBell - (Ulti)
[0] ctes - (Ulti)
[0] Ulti - (Han)
[0] Death - (Han), (Ben)

With 11 alive, it's six strikes, you're out. Inning ends Wednesday 7 pm Eastern.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Just ask. Im on lunch until 12:30 so I have time. Im on mobile tho so looking posts up isnt really something I can do.

No. You're going to drop to that level, then this is where I draw the line at engaging with you.

htaeD posted...

To answer IGCD (should he find the new topic faster than Ben)

Yes I was asking you. Though fortunately for you, you missed a lot.

Could you re-ask the question if you think it is still relevant. I have been speed reading a little because I really don't like being behind on the back half of days and a lot has happened.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I missed this, but Corrik isn't the other person who targeted Lea.

I'm staying quiet because they haven't claimed yet, and if they don't, then they know they're dead anyway.

Oh... Well I still want some answers from Corrik about his supposed detective scan.

UltimaterializerX posted...

My real role? Required for the auto town win upgrade.

Just ask. Im on lunch until 12:30 so I have time. Im on mobile tho so looking posts up isnt really something I can do.

Oh. I didnt catch that part. That's hilarious. We have to keep Ulti alive just to see this through to the end.

(i'll be honest I never believed the princess claim but despite it all I was serious yesterday when i said Ulti is obviously town)

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Could you re-ask the question if you think it is still relevant. I have been speed reading a little because I really don't like being behind on the back half of days and a lot has happened.

Eh my question can wait, it was just a generic 'what are your plans' kind of thing. Just read these last 2 pages first is my advice.

PunishedBen posted...

Oh. I didnt catch that part. That's hilarious. We have to keep Ulti alive just to see this through to the end.

(i'll be honest I never believed the princess claim but despite it all I was serious yesterday when i said Ulti is obviously town)

Part of me says yeah fuck it keep ulti alive today if we don't win tomorrow if he is alive kill the hell outta ulti

Oh god i wake up and see lots of half insinuating that ulti/corrik claimed real roles(they didn't).

Also sorry i spent last night watching tribute videos til i could sleep(which also coincided with completely draining my phone battery).