Current Events > Beyonce receives major backlash for lyrics to a song. Now changing it.

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ZannoL
08/01/22 11:23:18 AM
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Do you find that lyric offensive?


https://variety.com/2022/music/news/beyonce-remove-renaissance-lyric-ableist-offensive-1235330581/

Beyoncs seventh studio album Renaissance debuted July 29 to universal acclaim, but one lyric in the song Heated left many listeners outraged on social media. The song includes the word spaz during a verse in which Beyonce sings: Spazzin on that ass, spazz on that ass. In the medical field, spastic refers to a disability that makes it difficult for people to control their muscles, especially in their arms and legs. The singers team confirmed to Variety that the lyric will be removed.

The word, not used intentionally in a harmful way, will be replaced, a statement from Beyoncs team reads.

The lyric was criticized as ableist and offensive on social media, and it even inspired an essay published on The Guardian in which writer Hannah Diviney wrote, Beyoncs commitment to storytelling musically and visually is unparalleled, as is her power to have the world paying attention to the narratives, struggles and nuanced lived experience of being a Black woman But that doesnt excuse her use of ableist language.

Beyoncs decision to remove the ableist lyric follows Lizzos decision to do the same. Lizzo used the same term in her song Grrrls off her latest album, Special. In the original track, Lizzo sang: Hold my bag, bitch, hold my bag/ Do you see this shit? Im a spaz. The new version of the song finds Lizzo singing: Hold my bag, bitch, Hold my bag/ Do you see this shit? Hold me back.

Lets make one thing clear: I never want to promote derogatory language, Lizzo wrote on social media while announcing the lyric change. The singer added that she was proud to have taken the steps to listen and take action.

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TheGoldenEel
08/01/22 11:24:37 AM
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Cant believe Beyonce is so out of touch that she didnt realize this controversy just happened with Lizzo like, a month ago

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saspa
08/01/22 11:25:22 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Cant believe Beyonce is so out of touch that she didnt realize this controversy just happened with Lizzo like, a month ago

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Priere
08/01/22 11:25:41 AM
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#CancelBeyonce

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TheGoldenEel
08/01/22 11:26:01 AM
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saspa posted...
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https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.70995/title.lizzo-changes-lyric-in-beastie-boys-sampling-single-grrls-after-backlash-over-the-word-spaz

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CRON
08/01/22 11:26:02 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Cant believe Beyonce is so out of touch that she didnt realize this controversy just happened with Lizzo like, a month ago
If we're being honest with ourselves, Beyonce probably has no idea what the hell any of her songs are about until she's in the studio and given lyrics someone else wrote.
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Bleuets
08/01/22 11:26:07 AM
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Yea Id classify that as an ableist language. Good on her for realizing her mistake and fixing it.
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Ar0ge
08/01/22 11:26:10 AM
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I think it's dumb.
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Prestoff
08/01/22 11:27:14 AM
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CRON posted...
If we're being honest with ourselves, Beyonce probably has no idea what the hell any of her songs are about until she's in the studio and given lyrics someone else wrote.

Honestly, probably this.

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Bleuets
08/01/22 11:27:33 AM
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Ar0ge posted...
I think it's dumb.

This is also ableist language. You shouldnt use the term dumb. Its offensive.
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DipDipDiver
08/01/22 11:27:36 AM
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Lets make one thing clear: I never want to promote derogatory language, Lizzo wrote on social media
But the line "Hold my bag, bitch, hold my bag" is still there
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Stallion_Prime
08/01/22 11:28:30 AM
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Thats it? Lol

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Ar0ge
08/01/22 11:29:36 AM
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Bleuets posted...
This is also ableist language. You shouldnt use the term dumb. Its offensive.

Lol ok.
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Payzmaykr
08/01/22 11:30:22 AM
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Wow, and people wonder why music, movies, etc suck these days.

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EmbraceOfDeath
08/01/22 11:46:19 AM
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Pretty l*me to censor stuff like that. Americans don't even use the word that way.

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HyperShadow23J
08/01/22 11:47:49 AM
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this is dumb af

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TheGoldenEel
08/01/22 11:49:50 AM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Pretty l*me to censor stuff like that. Americans don't even use the word that way.
Not sure if you know this but Beyonce is popular around the world

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YugiNoob
08/01/22 11:51:01 AM
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As someone with epilepsy who was called spaz in school I give zero fucks about that word.

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Tyranthraxus
08/01/22 11:52:53 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Wow, and people wonder why music, movies, etc suck these days.
Beyonce's lyrics are already vapid hot garbage no amount of word substitution can make it worse.

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PiOverlord
08/01/22 11:53:56 AM
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I think we are going to start seeing all words with historical negative connotations taken away from us soon as our mouths evolve to actually be incapable of saying them.

The problem is, these words were niche words that were turned into general insults, so that's why I believe we need to start creating words to replace them that are general insults right off the bat. I nominate gorpenhorpen as the word to replace dumb.

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What_
08/01/22 12:06:26 PM
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This seems ridiculously stupid and overreaching

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MixedRaceBaby
08/01/22 12:09:13 PM
#24:


the democrats are at it again!!!!

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gamer167
08/01/22 12:09:57 PM
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Being upset is a full time job for some people
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Guide
08/01/22 12:12:02 PM
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Spastic doesn't even necessitate reference to the medical condition. Twitter's just fucking stupid.

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DipDipDiver
08/01/22 12:12:58 PM
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Guide posted...
Spastic doesn't even necessitate reference to the medical condition. Twitter's just fucking stupid.
Neither does the r-word but that one's been off the table for some time now
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Solution_45
08/01/22 12:14:45 PM
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dumb as fuck
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sevihaimerej
08/01/22 12:16:42 PM
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Can we please stop letting Twitter be the moral arbiters of everything? No real person is offended by this, only those addicted to the feelings of vicarious offense and self righteousness

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TheGoldenEel
08/01/22 12:23:49 PM
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Guide posted...
Spastic doesn't even necessitate reference to the medical condition. Twitter's just fucking stupid.
Outside of the US it is considered an offensive slur akin to saying the r-word

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Guide
08/01/22 12:32:34 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Outside of the US it is considered an offensive slur akin to saying the r-word

And the Spanish word for black is horribly offensive... in the wrong context. Good thing we're humans who understand context.

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FunkyCat
08/01/22 12:34:28 PM
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Lmao, that word has been considered offensive for fucking decades.

At least outside America anyway.

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hockeybub89
08/01/22 1:15:49 PM
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As a far leftist, I think this is stupid and Beyonce is virtue signaling.

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Bleuets
08/01/22 1:17:17 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
As a far leftist, I think this is stupid and Beyonce is virtue signaling.

Not using ableist language is a good thing. Also, stupid is ableist language.
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Questionmarktarius
08/01/22 1:17:59 PM
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Some record company guy: "This is going to tank sales in the UK"
That's what happened.

Also some record company guy: "This is going to sell a lot of CDs to people looking for something 'rare' or something!"
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hockeybub89
08/01/22 1:18:07 PM
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Bleuets posted...
Not using ableist language is a good thing. Also, stupid is ableist language
Oh you still post here?

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Bleuets
08/01/22 1:18:58 PM
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Here is a list of ableist words (words to avoid using). I keep an open tab on my phone.

https://web.augsburg.edu/english/writinglab/Avoiding_Ableist_Language.pdf
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hockeybub89
08/01/22 1:19:42 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
Neither does the r-word but that one's been off the table for some time now
How many people actually say that word in reference to something being slowed down as opposed to a shitty insult?

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Questionmarktarius
08/01/22 1:20:10 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
How many people actually say that word in reference to something being slowed down as opposed to a shitty insult?
Black Eyed Peas, that one time.
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Lordgold666
08/01/22 1:20:14 PM
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lol @ getting upset over this

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g0ldie
08/01/22 1:21:17 PM
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good on her (or her team) accepting the criticism and doing something about it.

but as was posted earlier, I think a lot of people are ignorant about how offensive the word is to a lot of people. at least, I know I was ignorant about it, and didn't know until the same thing happened with Lizzo. I just thought it was a "fun" word people sometimes use.

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Revelation34
08/01/22 1:21:17 PM
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This is moronic. Everybody gets offended over nothing.

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TheGoldenEel
08/01/22 1:32:06 PM
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Guide posted...
And the Spanish word for black is horribly offensive... in the wrong context. Good thing we're humans who understand context.
But she is using it in the context that is offensive to people that speak the language of the song.

there is nothing wrong with adjusting a song to avoid using a slur that is offensive to people of a certain country. Its just being a good human

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sevihaimerej
08/01/22 1:34:45 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
But she is using it in the context that is offensive to people that speak the language of the song.

there is nothing wrong with adjusting a song to avoid using a slur that is offensive to people of a certain country. Its just being a good human
In the UK they call apartments "flats" and roommates "flatmates" which is offensive to women with small titties and pre op trans women

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Revelation34
08/01/22 1:36:17 PM
#47:


TheGoldenEel posted...

But she is using it in the context that is offensive to people that speak the language of the song.

there is nothing wrong with adjusting a song to avoid using a slur that is offensive to people of a certain country. Its just being a good human


I speak English and I'm not offended.

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DipDipDiver
08/01/22 1:40:06 PM
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Honestly I'm surprised it got released like that in the first place. Beyonce is a huge star and has been for a long time, at the very least you would think someone on her team would spot the issue.
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TheGoldenEel
08/01/22 1:43:05 PM
#49:


DipDipDiver posted...
Honestly I'm surprised it got released like that in the first place. Beyonce is a huge star and has been for a long time, at the very least you would think someone on her team would spot the issue.
This is what Im saying. The Lizzo controversy literally just happened

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SugarFlakes
08/01/22 1:43:20 PM
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Thats all?

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