Current Events > VTuber General 17: I'm Magging now!

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R_Jackal posted...

Considering, well, I'll put this in spoilers, it's in regards to Pomu's past life: I think she talked about this once in NijiEN too albeit vaguely, but in her past life she mentioned she tried out for a 'certain idol company' that 'someone she respects greatly works for', got accepted, and chickened out because she didn't think she could actually keep up with them and, at the time, her upcoming medical issues.

Pretty sure those are two different companies. Pomu talked about that experience and said she was in Japan and that it was a real-life underground idol group she followed. I think that was years before she was a VTuber, although I thought she was a Holo EN finalist as well. i know Finana was a finalist, not sure about Pomu, but they didn't get accepted to Hololive.

Might be. Didn't have much context since I just remember that snippet and I saw that stream pretty much right as that was mentioned, and she talked about Hololive after a little bit, so I just assumed. My memory is also complete garbage so I could just be piecing shit together lol.

In other, better news--It's time for Holostars vs Holostars... in Left 4 Dead 2. Well, in like two hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05SxvrJukJM

Edit: Also, forgot to put it up, but Enna just finished an unarchived Karaoke and she finished it with an original song thanking her friends and fans. Legit super wholesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo7WAbjH4us

Enna's playing the Mortuary Assistant.

So far, she's fresh out the tutorial, and is so scared that she turned on all the lights in her house, opened the windows, got her Asthma inhaler, table salt, and decided to go get her jade protection necklace.

I get the inhaler but what's the salt for, is she making like a protective magic circle or something

kirbymuncher posted...

I get the inhaler but what's the salt for, is she making like a protective magic circle or something

Salt is commonly associated with the divine and is meant to annihilate/ward off demons, yes.

R_Jackal posted...

I mean I saw the whole thing. For one, it was in their vent channel which, lets face it, is kinda a dumpster fire in every discord server.

All that stuff you said right there was legitimately just Fulgur and to an extent Finana that was offensive, and he made his intentions clear that he wants to be the least-subbed NijiEN member and doesn't care about his image generally. Pomu said "it feels like all-out war right now lol." Finana basically just said it's probably because Luxiem and Noctyx are pulling a lot of money/close to JP livers. Shu just talked about how he applied wishing for Holostars EN and being disappointed, Millie said she was glad that Shu was here, and Vox was just being his usual sarcastic self with "hololive in shambles".

I noticed a little snip that didn't get talked about much before that was slightly before this, which was them talking about HoloCouncil's tech issues on debut, don't remember who, and someone--I think it was Millie, just called Shu their secret weapon/tech wizard.

Reading it as like... super-negativity, dunno, it doesn't carry that weight to me. A little competitive yeah. Fulgur def went a bit too hard, though, but it's pretty much... how he is, he said people were gonna be mad with Nijisanji for opening apps so fast again and again too though(which was actually true).

Pretty sure the war thing was mostly about the fans going at each others throats every time a new wave shows up for either end now, which just got worse with Iluna/Holostars(which oddly, those two waves seem kinda close with each other and it's mostly on the fans), not like "we have to exterminate them." But it's open to interpretation. Considering, well, I'll put this in spoilers, it's in regards to Pomu's past life: I think she talked about this once in NijiEN too albeit vaguely, but in her past life she mentioned she tried out for a 'certain idol company' that 'someone she respects greatly works for', got accepted, and chickened out because she didn't think she could actually keep up with them and, at the time, her upcoming medical issues.

It's really up to how you want to interpret it, honestly. Didn't feel hateful to me, or it's the mildest shit-talking in private that I've ever seen.

Edit: And yeah, Council got fucked by Youtube, especially Sana. Sana's sub count basically got Thanos snapped like three times, it was brutal as hell.

I have a feeling you're incredibly biased here, and I can respect it to an extent, but you really haven't addressed the fact that it was a single page. The thing is, we've never really seen Hololive ever have a shittalk, or "vent" as you call it, channel leaked at any point. We've seen it with the VShojos who cancelled a random guy for no reason, and we've seen it with NijiEN. If they keep it between an extremely private dms or even venting in real life, I find that a bit more acceptable than having a public channel dedicated to it, where there seems to be quite a lot of activity. I dunno what the intention for having such a channel even is, but it breeds negativity, and it shows the mindset they're operating under, behind their vtuber persona. It's one of those things where that kind of personality will show up under the curtains every now and then, like it does with Finana and her all too occasion twitter mishaps that come across as oddly aggressive towards the fans that keep her in the running.

You even have Mysta talking about completely unrelated things. It makes me think like this channel is a lot more general purpose than it seems on a surface level, and yeah like I said, a single fucking page with a pretty clear scroll bar that stretches way up. Does it paint Vox (who you seem to forgive for his comments for some reason), Finana, Pomu, and Fulgur in a much worse light? I mean yeah it should. You can't just assume that their war comment was something else and just forgive them entirely

I am also working under assumptions, but I don't think this matter is as opinion based as you seem to be putting it. If you're a fan, please understand that you're always gonna see things in a rosier light. I was really neutral on these guys up until I saw the screenshots. I'm not gonna hate on any talents that I have 0 proof of being able to hate.

But they're just talents in the end. Why the fuck are they even talking business like they're the ones responsible for half of their success? Vox can't even control his crazy Chinese fujo fanbase from harassing his own damn company lol. They're successful because Nijisanji hasn't pissed off China. I'm sorry to say to anybody in denial, but the Youtube statistics literally prove this because more than half of most of the Luxiem guys have subs from overseas in like Taiwan or whatever the fuck China uses for VPN. This is the kind of concrete info I'm operating under, not rosy interpretation of their clear and unprofessional shittalking

Why are guys like Fulgur, having produced a single fucking stream at that point, talking shit like he owns the goddamn area? He had like less than 25k subs at the time, and all of those subs were gained under the virtue that he's under Nijisanji.

This is the most damning of them all, but it also serves as a blueprint the talents seem to be operating under some misapprehension that they're the ones fully responsible for their success, when a lot of credit should go to Nijisanji, and fucking surprise, HololiveEN. Yeah, without HoloEN, Nijisanji is doing some weird shit like converting the India branch to EN because they're too scared to make the leap without a proof of concept. Doesn't sound like this is an all-out war. It sounds like they owe Hololive for even paving the way to begin with.

Watching NijisanjiEN basically means talents like Fulgur or anybody involved in that single page of unprofessional shittalk can just appear on the stream at any point, which makes it incredibly hard to watch all of NijisanjiEN in general. I also find the NijiEN's silent defending of him damning in a way, like they're treating like he was the only one unfortunate enough to be caught in the act or something.

Nijisanji management probably has all the rights to treat Hololive as a competitor because that's just logical as a company in a similar space (JP doesn't really owe Hololive, but EN owes nearly all of its current operational success to Hololive). But talents don't really gain from treating this like an "all-out war." To me, that comes across as something more personal than anything related to their own success. Also, I couldn't really give a rat's ass about the what-ifs. What, are we supposed to just take them at their word that they were some like finalists to being in Hololive? At the end of the day, they didn't make it, but if they were finalists, then they shouldn't have any problem simply getting in on a later wave.

https://twitter.com/EnnaClips/status/1566939241686384642?s=20&t=sl_ohXP4CiqdDauz0BQbAw

Nah, I don't mean to sound bias, just more... yeah, it's one page, but, my standpoint is that I really don't know. I can read in to it however I want, but it's just that no matter what conclusion I jump to it's just going to be my conclusion. From what I know of them, I could see Finana possibly saying something that could be shit talking but not actually intending it as such--she seems... to be an awkward conversationalist from her past Twitter drama, and Fulgur probably did ngl.

But, we got the one page. Assuming it's hate before or after to me just perpetuates the hate and furthers this "war" mindset, so I would just rather think better of them since... I just don't know and would rather not breed more hostility is all.

Dunno, I don't like the "give all the credit to the past stars" thing either, Nijisanji's talents def put in work and do a lot of cool/fun stuff. But as a former pro wrestling fan that got fucking sick of seeing people pushing their mid 70s show up for matches so I am in fact super bias in that regard, would rather evaluate each on their own. No doubt original Hololive set the ground work for the EN audience though, but I would give that to Haachama and Coco.

It's just like, that mentality just takes the entire community down a notch, it's why we got the "ugh vtubers" shit pretty much everywhere outside of the people who actually watch them, assuming the worst benefits literally no one.

Edit: Also, I don't forgive Vox for his comments, I just feel like he's that one guy in a Discord server who knows no other way to communicate than sarcasm. The guy who responds to everything with references/memes and middle-quality jokes. I don't actually like Vox because of that tbh, so it's less of a "forgive him" than just... I don't care, that just seems to be his default mode.

I also don't really hold Hololive in that high a regard though, I just value individual streamers versus the entire company. The only ones I watch in any regularity in order are Selen and Elira(their schedules match up best with my work schedule lol), Pomu, Rosemi, Calli, and Ollie for when I'm caffeined up at like 3AM my time. The company they work for doesn't really matter to me.

Almost forgot he's part of Hololive now, actually(well, Holostars), but I will legit go out of my way to try and catch Vesper streams. Man's been a top tier entertainer even in his past life, so they currently got my fav on their side lol.

R_Jackal posted...

I also don't really hold Hololive in that high a regard though, I just value individual streamers versus the entire company.

I've flipflopped back and forth on this so much over the years

like, on one hand I would totally follow any of my favourites away from hololive if they left and started streaming as independent or as part of another company. so in that sense I value the individual. and I don't think I'd instantly start loving some streamer I didn't like before just because they joined, either.

but on the other hand, hololive was more or less what introduced me to vtubers (not gonna count watching kizuna ai extremely early) and a good number of my favourites are holoive even now. plus often some of the most fun streams are collabs and the big company setup like this provides a good framework for that to happen more easily & means you often at least have a general idea of what the person they're collabing with is like even if you don't reallly watch them

Mumei singing practice (maybe archived)
Warning: angry FRIEND in stream.
https://youtu.be/k0b8vPsTYVc

alphapipi posted...

Mumei singing practice (maybe archived)
Warning: angry FRIEND in stream.
https://youtu.be/k0b8vPsTYVc

This is peak Mumei content

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/5/AAe7z7AADpbT.jpg

Holofes 4 next march. Expecting Council and ID2 (maybe even ID3) 3Ds

A little late, but Selen is back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSLk_RXzJnE

Also, accidental Minecraft server partial wipe wiped out literally all of Selen's stuff aside from the TNT farm. She lost the dragoon parrots, the slime farm, her house, and tech town. She apparently got PTSD likening it to when her Neopets account got hacked lmao

R_Jackal posted...

Also, accidental Minecraft server partial wipe wiped out literally all of Selen's stuff aside from the TNT farm.

Has anyone talked about how it happened?

Not sure, just got off work a little while ago but Pomu and Elira both ran(Elira's still running) minecraft streams today. Might have gotten talked about there.

Selen was apparently broken by the loss of the slime farm because she solo-built it in survival under the ocean, including farming sponges to get rid of the water.

Seems like theyll be able to world edit some stuff in from a previous backup from like May. I may not be using the right wording for that.

Just coming in to say that Vesper is great. Also add me back to the @ list please.

Vesper, Magni, and Altare are pretty good. And Axel during collabs

happy cirno day everyone https://files.catbox.moe/h6woe8.mp3

kirbymuncher posted...

happy cirno day everyone https://files.catbox.moe/h6woe8.mp3

obligatory Tian Nya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqlhIsn2Q3s

Holocure update 0.4 released

Kiara Early Access Playthrough (From 12PM EDT Tuesday)
https://youtu.be/FVZPk21Sl5o

Fauna Playthrough (5PM EDT Friday)
https://youtu.be/9vE2rOGkaao

Mumei Playthrough (10PM EDT Friday)
https://youtu.be/tL3nRsLq6Pk

Download here
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure

Mumei is a gamer, cleared stage 1 hard mode on her second try while using Miko for the first time

Tempus memberships open today.
Vesper streaming now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NYRXVSAUeo

Pochi's doing a karaoke stream, with an announcement at some point during. She's been slowly streaming more frequently lately, so here's hoping it's good news. Kinda weird how with VTuber's, announcement is like a huge lottery of how it could go.

Mumei trying lv 5 Halu challenge in Holocure (beating game with LV 5 Halu item)
https://youtu.be/GP_0SSBMsCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTgoqNDkLkM

Guys I'm trapped.

https://twitter.com/AmongUsGame/status/1569778010118668290

sus

Big sus.

Clearly all Pomu.

AMONGUS!!!!

So wait, are they all from hololive?

Probably. It's hard to be certain, but some of them are pretty obvious, like Ame and Gura.

And I'm thinking the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th on the top row are Mio, Korone, and Fubuki respectively.

Shark singing!

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1570220390940643335

shork 3D live (officially produced this time)

https://youtu.be/3D6YvX_w-C0

Delutaya is getting a proper L2D on the 20th it looks like. Here's to hoping she can start streaming on YouTube more regularly. For those that don't know who she is, check out her other videos, she should sound familiar even if the time with her previous life was short lived.

R_Jackal posted...

check out her other videos, she should sound familiar even if the time with her previous life was short lived.

considering how few streams she had so long ago I kinda doubt anyone not already keeping up with this would remember anymore <_<

This nijisanji minecraft collab sure is something I had to put something else on just now from the cringe of (Millie I think) explaining how many holes girls have and how one is for pee lol. She started off with what are they teaching you In Australia!?

kirbymuncher posted...

considering how few streams she had so long ago I kinda doubt anyone not already keeping up with this would remember anymore <_<

Yeah, I guess so actually. Only reason I remember now that I think of it is because Youtube basically doxxed her channel to me in recommended the first time she streamed on Youtube with that name.

Elira's first Zelda game, apparently. She's gonna play BotW on stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmg4FQH9bLI

Sorry for the triple post, but Rosemi's on the Tokyo Game Show's main english channel right now for what I assume to be the after-show/a recap? https://www.twitch.tv/tokyogameshow6

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/3/1/AAZ8hCAADr3z.jpg

it's about that time of year for forbidden knowledge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFrPrIxluWk

Had to miss the first two hours of eliras stream because apparently my professor sucks at d2l.

Anywho; Zelda time.

Alteres posted...

Had to miss the first two hours of eliras stream because apparently my professor sucks at d2l.

Anywho; Zelda time.

The first thing she did was wander off and die to trying to swim in the frozen area, before any of the tutorials. Only thing I could think of is she definitely has the spirit of the game down.

Ganondalf

New best Zelda character right there.

Gura 2024!

Looks like Gura is finally getting her Daki. I wonder how she was able to convince them to ok it.

I assume anyone buying the daki is put on a list.

If the art is nice I'll buy it and hang it on the wall like a tapestry