Current Events > Chief judge completely shuts Amber Heard down

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all the evidence pointed towards amber abusing depp. why are you burying your head in the sand? did you even watch the trial?

I dont necessarily agree with this either. There is a lot questionable behaviour by her but all that means is that there are no perfect victims. At worst theyre both abusers I guess.

Im no expert or nothin

Maybe you should read this bit a few more times and just shut the fuck up.

yeah again, Im a bit of a dope. Thats why Ive just pointed to the article now.

Why are you presenting a blogpost as an article?

Holy shit, you chose a biased moronic article to try to back yourself up. Have you watched the trial at all, or read much of anything except trash articles like that?

You remind me of someone on my Facebook who was trashing Johnny Depp and supporting Amber simply because of Me too, Believe all Women, etc. This is a uber liberal who gets offended for the sake of others simply for the sake of being offended, it's very cringe. He considers himself well read too.

Amber well deserves the hate she's getting, she's a literal sociopathic snake who takes no responsibility and admits to no faults, instead choosing to direct blame to everyone but herself.

hes a journalist. But yes my bad.

The only thing I got out of the article was that the author believes his credibility determination is correct. Which can also be said about the jury, so....

Ah yes, that's why lawyers post exclusively legal dissertations or dissents. Because your profession dictates how every piece of writing you produce is classified.

hes a journalist. But yes my bad.

the reason I trust Hobbes is because this kind of thing is exactly his wheelhouse. He used to co host the Youre Wrong About podcast which was largely about maligned women and their treatment in the media.

He used to co host the Youre Wrong About podcast

And that's fine for you to do so. But he's ultimately subject to his own biases and other influences, just as he claims the jury was. I don't see any reason to elevate his own determinations.

the reason I trust Hobbes is because this kind of thing is exactly his wheelhouse. He used to co host the Youre Wrong About podcast which was largely about maligned women and their treatment in the media.

You should probably reevaluate that. He seems to be a lot like the Facebook fool I mentioned, believing things for the sake of believing them, without actually considering evidence and thinking for himself.

but why do you say that when he does such a deep dive into the evidence? If anything his non-popular view is evidence that he IS at least thinking for himself.

I watched the trial.
Unless this man has also interviewed the various witnesses and had the credentials to back it, I'll believe my own eyes and the professional evaluations presented.
Like a rational and sane human being.

Fair enough! Rational minds can differ. I can dig it.

You can't ignore all the actual evidence and professional testimony and claim to be rational.
Fuck out of here.

but I did concede that she is likely also an abuser though.

Im no expert or nothin, just some guy, but as I understand it there was a lot of contemporaneous evidence of abuse. Which a UK court also accepted. From long before they were even married. Anyone who thinks shes some scheming 4D chess player whos been slowly enacting a plan for years has Gone Girl brain.

Heard isn't an abuser. Period. Full stop.
That is the consensus of the mental health professional, the jury, various judges, and 80%+ of the witnesses called.

A victim of abuse that lashes out against their abuser is not committing abuse.

You are trying so hard to defend Amber Heard in some bid to feel like you "lieten" and "support women" that you are entirely demeaning and minimalizing an actual victim to hold up the abuser.
Your actions are harmful and you need to self reflect.

again, not expecting to convince anyone here but this is not why. Ambers original article was something like I spoke up against domestic violence and was punished for it and now its happened to her again. That I feel is whats harmful to other victims of abuse. Thats just my opinion! Please dont crucify me.

I think they had a toxic relationship wherein she was the primary abuser but Depp had less common and less severe abusive behavior in anger and self defense.

Your opinion is demonstrably wrong however.
That article is inherently unreliable as it has been deemed that she did not experience abuse, and was an abuser instead.
Let that sink in.

It was deemed one way in the US and another in a UK court. I dont think a differing view than a non-sequestered jury, in which one of the members spouses was texting them about how Herd was a total psycho makes it INHERENTLY unreliable.

didnt she have pics taken at the time? And statements from her makeup artist and friends?

The pics were proven in the trial to be shopped

did you even read the article?

The pics were proven in the trial to be shopped

I dont necessarily agree with this either. There is a lot questionable behaviour by her but all that means is that there are no perfect victims. At worst theyre both abusers I guess.

but she had more evidence than most DV victims, if you cant believe her you cant believe any.

No, they absolutely were not.