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Heineken14
06/28/22 5:07:02 PM
#151:


DarkRoast posted...
This is a level of complete insanity that absolutely requires GOP heads to make a statement. Which is precisely why they won't.


Oh they will. It'll just be about how democrats are focusing on things that don't matter with baseless witch hunts while senile dementia Joe wonders the halls of the White House while inflation and gas soar out of control.

They will then tell you to fuck off when pressed on why no republicans are putting forth bills to address those issues or why none of them are voting for the bills democrats are proposing.

Then they'll rail a line of coke off of Boebert's ass and Greene clunks a few rocks together trying to make fire with Ted Cruz "watching."

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Nerevar791
06/28/22 5:07:23 PM
#152:


AlCalavicci posted...
the most insane thing would be if Tucker turned. That shit will never happen
Tucker will gladly turn if it benefits him. His greatest loyalty is to white supremacy and fascism, not even Trump.

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Nerevar791
06/28/22 5:12:47 PM
#153:


Heineken14 posted...
Oh they will. It'll just be about how democrats are focusing on things that don't matter with baseless witch hunts while senile dementia Joe wonders the halls of the White House while inflation and gas soar out of control.
They're already ahead of you

https://twitter.com/JudiciaryGOP

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DarkRoast
06/28/22 5:13:01 PM
#154:


Heineken14 posted...
Oh they will. It'll just be about how democrats are focusing on things that don't matter with baseless witch hunts while senile dementia Joe wonders the halls of the White House while inflation and gas soar out of control.

They will then tell you to fuck off when pressed on why no republicans are putting forth bills to address those issues or why none of them are voting for the bills democrats are proposing.

Then they'll rail a line of coke off of Boebert's ass and Greene clunks a few rocks together trying to make fire with Ted Cruz "watching."


https://twitter.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1541860530167717889?s=20&t=U-wLoQXBMOtnlD3_AwGrng

Nah they're gonna do this


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mybbqrules
06/28/22 5:13:50 PM
#155:


DarthAragorn posted...
Trump is mad as fuck, so that's a pretty good indicator everything Hutchinson said is true.

https://twitter.com/attymmhayes/status/1541850875127365634
Big time "duuurrr she just got coffee duuuurrrr" energy.

I'll enjoy watching him squirm though.

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Error1355
06/28/22 5:17:10 PM
#156:


Fuck Donald Trump.

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TomClark
06/28/22 5:17:57 PM
#157:


AlCalavicci posted...
you know its big when Fox stops ignoring it lol

Yeah, if anyone is in any doubt about how big this testimony was, this right here is the fucking metric.

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MattcheteGuy
06/28/22 5:18:15 PM
#158:


Error1355 posted...
Fuck Donald Trump.


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DarkRoast
06/28/22 5:20:08 PM
#159:


We are talking about a guy who quite literally was recorded committing extortion with the Georgian AG. We need to stop pretending that somehow enough information will push them to admit there was a problem - they've known it was illegal from the onset, and they even know that we know it. But they also know the only way they'll ever be in trouble is if they admit it.

That said, the longer these kinds of testimonies keep coming out, the more their deliberate silence becomes an image liability. By not even acknowledging it, they are also not trying to form counter-arguments or reframe the narrative.

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CM_Ponch
06/28/22 5:26:29 PM
#160:


This all feels worthless, he's just going to get away with it

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DarkRoast
06/28/22 5:30:33 PM
#161:


This isn't just about him getting away with it, it's also about stopping this orwellian "2+2=5" right wing misinformation ecosystem that is tearing the country apart.

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DarkRoast
06/28/22 5:31:46 PM
#162:


TomClark posted...
Yeah, if anyone is in any doubt about how big this testimony was, this right here is the fucking metric.

Don't worry, they've already buried it at the bottom of their website front page.

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TomClark
06/28/22 5:32:27 PM
#163:


DarkRoast posted...
Don't worry, they've already buried it at the bottom of their website front page.

Ah well, haha

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Skype
06/28/22 5:36:19 PM
#166:


I've worked in similar cases before, this thread runs down why this testimony is a big deal

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1541867974130339841?t=fzI_V0Zqxo1ksjFryirMGg&s=19

Tl;dr: Trump's knowledge that the rioters had weapons and his attempts to force his worker to the capitol speaks to his culpable state of mind in inciting a riot.


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CableZL
06/28/22 5:39:41 PM
#167:


I'm way behind, getting caught up:
  • Hutchinson and Cippollone had a brief conversation where he said "We need to make sure this doesn't happen. Legally, this would be a terrible idea for us. We have serious legal concerns if we go up to the capitol that day." It was Hutchinson's understanding that Meadows was pushing this along with the president.
  • Cippollone spoke to Hutchinson on the morning on the 6th and he said to make sure the movement to the capitol does not happen. "We're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if that happens."
  • Hutchinson mentioned obstructing justice and defrauding the electoral count as possible crimes they would get charged with.


A video deposition of Hutchison saying the above is shown.
  • Cippollone was concerned that it would look like they were inciting a riot at the capitol.
  • Trump expressed to multiple white house aides that he wanted to go to the capitol after his speech.


Video depositions of various white house aides:

Nick Luna, Former assistant to the president:
  • Q: Did the president tell you that he wanted to go to the capitol?
  • A: Correct, yes.


Max Miller, Former White House aide:
  • Q: During the meeting in the diamond room, did the idea of the president proceeding or walking to the capitol after his speech come up?
  • A: Walking to the capitol? No.
  • Q: Driving to the capitol?
  • A: It came up.
  • Q: How did it come up, and what was discussed?
  • A: He brought it up. He said, "I want to go to the capitol."


Nick Luna again:
  • Q: What about him marching to the capitol on the 6th?
  • A: Yes.
  • Q: Tell us about that
  • A: I was aware of a desire of the president to potentially march to the, or accompany the rally attendees to the capitol.
  • Q: Where did you first hear about this idea of the president accompanying rally attendees on the 6th?
  • A: This was on the 6th after he finished his remarks.

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CableZL
06/28/22 5:41:00 PM
#168:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/9/AABjoOAADZG_.jpg

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CableZL
06/28/22 5:42:10 PM
#169:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/0/AABjoOAADZHA.jpg

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DarkRoast
06/28/22 5:42:38 PM
#170:


The only bright side about all of this is that without having any sycophants sticking their necks out for him right now, Trump is going to keep saying dumber and dumber things on Truth and, if we're lucky, say something that directly confirms testimony.

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Kingbuffet
06/28/22 5:42:40 PM
#171:


Trump did not care if Jan 6th rally-goers were screened for weapons theyre not here to hurt me.

@darkprince

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CableZL
06/28/22 5:43:53 PM
#172:


Cassidy Hutchinson spoke with Ronaldo and McCarthy, confirming that they weren't going to the capitol.

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CableZL
06/28/22 5:46:12 PM
#173:


Cassidy Hutchinson, video deposition:
  • Q: When you were talking about a scheduled movement, did anyone say what the president wanted to do when he got there?
  • A: No, not that I can specifically remember. I remember overhearing a few different ideas discussed between Mark and Scott Perry, Mark and Rudy Giuliani. I don't know which conversations were elevated to the president. I don't' know what he personally wanted to do when he got to the capitol that day. I know that there were discussions about him having another speech outside of the capitol before going in. I know that here was a conversation about him going into the house chamber at one point.

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ScazarMeltex
06/28/22 5:46:16 PM
#174:


I cannot stress enough that if there are not the harshest consequences for this, for all involved, your democracy is over.
If not punished for this they will try again, because why wouldn't they if there are no consequences. The next time they'll succeed.

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DarkRoast
06/28/22 5:47:22 PM
#175:


Thankfully their depravity is exceeded only by their ineptitude.

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Alteres
06/28/22 5:51:55 PM
#176:


Seriously, his code name was MOGUL?

besides eww, wtf is even the point of that?

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CableZL
06/28/22 5:55:17 PM
#177:


What happened in the president's vehicle after secret service told him he would not be going to the capitol:

Video is shown of the president's motorcade leaving the ellipse.

Cheney's question to Hutchinson:
  • Q: When you returned to the White House in the motorcade after the president's speech, where did you go?
  • A: When I returned to the White House, I walked up stairs toward the chief of staff's office. I noticed Mr. Ornato lingering outside of the office. Once we made eye contact, he quickly waved me to go into his office, which was just across the hall from mine. When I went in, he shut the door. I noticed Bobby Engel, who is the head of Mr. Trump's security detail, sitting in a chair just looking somewhat discombobulated, a little lost. I looked at Tony, and he said, "Did you effing hear what happened in the beast?" I said, "No, Tony, I just got back. What happened?" Tony proceeded to tell me that, when the president got in the beast, he was under the impression from Mr. Meadows that the OTR movement to the capitol was still capitol was still possible and likely to happen, but that Bobby had more information. Once the president had gotten into the vehicle with Bobby, he thought that they were going into the capitol. When Bobby had relayed to him, "We're not, we don't have the access to do it. It's not secure. We're going back to the west wing," the president had a very strong, a very angry response to that. Tony described him as being irate. The president said something to the effect of, "I'm the effing president. Take me up to the capitol now." To which Bobby responded, "Sir, we have to go back to the west wing." The president reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Mr. Engel grabbed his arm and said, "Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. We're going back to the west wing. We're not going to the capitol." Mr. Trump then used his free hand to lunge toward Bobby Engel. When Mr. Ornato had recounted the story to me, he had motioned towards his clavicles.


HOLY SHIT

  • Q: Was Mr. Engel in the room as Mr. Ornato told you this story?
  • A: He was.
  • Q: Did Mr. Engel correct or disagree with any part of this story from Mr. Ornato?
  • A: Mr. Engel did not correct or disagree with any part of the story.
  • Q: Did Mr. Engel or Mr. Ornato ever after that, tell you what Mr. Ornato had just said was untrue?
  • A: Neither Mr. Ornato nor Mr. Engel told me evert hat it was untrue.
  • Q: Despite this physical altercation during the ride back to the white house, president Trump still demanded to go to the capitol.



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CableZL
06/28/22 6:02:13 PM
#178:


Video deposition of Kaylee McEnany:
  • Q: When the | heard the POTUS(???) | wanted to walk to the capitol, was that based on what the president said during his speech or anybody else said afterward?
  • A: So, to the best of my recollection, I believe when we got back to the White House, he said he wanted to physically walk with the marchers. According to my notes, he then said he would be fine with just riding the beast. To the best of my recollection, he wanted to be a part of the march in some fashion.
  • Q: And just for the record, "The Beast" refers to the presidential limousine?
  • A: Yes.

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CableZL
06/28/22 6:03:38 PM
#179:


Gonna try to summarize the major parts to get through this faster from here on.

Video deposition of Hutchinson:
  • Trump blamed Mark Meadows for the plan for him to going to the capitol falling through.
  • Trump wasn't happy that Bobby didn't pull it off for him, and said Mark didn't work hard enough.



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CableZL
06/28/22 6:07:27 PM
#180:


Trump was extremely angry at Barr's AP interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall. Hutchinson grabbed a towel to wipe the ketchup off the wall

He was eating McDonald's wasn't he

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Tyranthraxus
06/28/22 6:08:33 PM
#181:


AlCalavicci posted...
you know its big when Fox stops ignoring it lol

the most insane thing would be if Tucker turned. That shit will never happen
Carlson won't turn. Neither will hannity, owens or ingraham.

Other people are maybes. I feel like most of them quit the company already after the January 6 documentary from Carlson.

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Tyranthraxus
06/28/22 6:10:01 PM
#182:


CableZL posted...
Trump was extremely angry at Barr's AP interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall. Hutchinson grabbed a towel to wipe the ketchup off the wall

He was eating McDonald's wasn't he

No if he threw McDonald's the food probably would have stuck together. Or at least there wouldn't be a big mess of ketchup on the wall.

It was probably a well done steak, which he unironically eats with ketchup


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CableZL
06/28/22 6:10:41 PM
#183:


Tyranthraxus posted...
No if he threw McDonald's the food probably would have stuck together. Or at least there wouldn't be a big mess of ketchup on the wall.

It was probably a well done steak, which he unironically eats with ketchup
Shit, you're right

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MattcheteGuy
06/28/22 6:14:15 PM
#184:


usually steak is dinner. Lunch I'm 95% certain would have been mcdonalds.

I want to make a video of the scene in the movie Re-Animator where the character crushes another character's severed head and throws it really hard into a wall, only with trump's face edited onto the thrower's face and the severed thrown head replaced by a plate of mcdonalds

unfortunately I don't know how to do that because I'm not video editing savvy.

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CableZL
06/28/22 6:15:33 PM
#185:


Roger Stone was photographed with multiple members of the Oath Keepers who were serving as his security detail.
  • Multiple members of the Oath Keepers have been charged with crimes related to January 6th.
  • Stone has plead the 5th before the committee
  • On January 5th, Trump instructed Meadows to contact both Roger Stone and Michael Flynn about what would play out the next day.



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CableZL
06/28/22 6:16:38 PM
#186:


Giuliani, Eastman, and others set up a war room at the Willard Hotel on the night of January 5th. Meadows wanted Hutchinson to set up an OTR to get Trump to the hotel.

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DarkRoast
06/28/22 6:17:50 PM
#187:


The fact that literally everyone involved asked for a pardon I'm sure doesn't imply that they knew what was happening

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CableZL
06/28/22 6:19:10 PM
#188:


Video of Mike Flynn pleading the 5th:
  • Q: Do you believe the violence on January 6th was justified?
  • Q: Do you believe the violence on January 6th was justified morally?
  • Q: Do you believe the violence on Januar 6th was justified legally?
  • Q: Do you believe in the peaceful transition of power in the USA?

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Heineken14
06/28/22 6:21:06 PM
#189:


Alteres posted...
Seriously, his code name was MOGUL?

besides eww, wtf is even the point of that?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Service_code_name

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Alteres
06/28/22 6:23:50 PM
#190:


Mountaineer and marksman lol

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AlCalavicci
06/28/22 6:25:23 PM
#191:


https://twitter.com/monicalewinsky/status/1541882875494162438?s=21&t=YkMPzQBlackopN_CA4Uu7Q

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CableZL
06/28/22 6:26:55 PM
#192:


Video deposition of Hutchinson about the "Hang Mike Pence" chants:
  • Cippollone: Mark we need to do something more. They're literally calling for the vice president to be effing hung.
  • Meadows: You heard him (Trump), Pat. He thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn't think they're doing anything wrong.
  • Cippollone: This is effing crazy. We need to be doing something more.



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CableZL
06/28/22 6:28:19 PM
#193:


Conversation between Trump and Jonathan Karl:
  • Karl: They were saying hang Mike Pence.
  • Trump: Because it's -- it's common sense, Jon, it's common sense, that you're supposed to protect. How can you -- if you know a vote is fraudulent, right -- how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to congress?

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CableZL
06/28/22 6:28:47 PM
#194:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/1/AABjoOAADZHf.jpg

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Bishop9800
06/28/22 6:34:20 PM
#195:


Error1355 posted...
Fuck Donald Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlIREcAu0PI

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Rathinor
06/28/22 6:37:28 PM
#197:


Anyone who STILL supports this man is objectively a moron
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CableZL
06/28/22 6:43:25 PM
#199:


Matt Pottinger, former deputy national security advisor:
  • One of my staff brought me a printout of a tweet by the president. The tweet said something to the effect of "The vice president didn't have the courage to do what should have been done." I read that tweet and made a decision at that moment to resign.


Yep, I didn't miss his resignation:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iyB1SUu6pcaJkG_5Acsqsp23ClM2TP2sZvJzcRoZccY/edit?usp=sharing

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/9/AABjoOAADZHn.jpg

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CableZL
06/28/22 6:43:58 PM
#200:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/0/AABjoOAADZHo.jpg

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