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Lebronwon 06/27/22 11:00:47 AM #1: |
https://nypost.com/2022/06/27/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-washington-football-coachs-prayer/ The Supreme Court Monday issued a ruling in favor of a Washington state football coach who sought to kneel and pray on the field after games. The court ruled 6-3 along ideological lines that former high school football coach Joe Kennedys prayer was protected under the first amendment. The Constitution and the best of our traditions counsel mutual respect and tolerance, not censorship and suppression, for religious and nonreligious views alike, Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion. The ruling is the latest of several from the court in favor of religious plaintiffs. The court ruled last week that the state of Maine cannot exclude religious schools from a public program offering tuition aid to private school students, a move that will make it easier for religious institutions to receive taxpayer money. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/27/22 11:02:38 AM #2: |
This goes back to prayer in schools, really. A school can't compel you to pray, but can't forbid you from praying either. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Derwood 06/27/22 11:03:00 AM #3: |
If any individual wants to kneel and pray after a game, go nuts. The problem is if/when members of the team and staff are pressured to join them and/or ostracized if they dont. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KainWind 06/27/22 11:04:21 AM #5: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This. I could have decided this case. --- Momentai ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 06/27/22 11:04:53 AM #6: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yeah, unless he was forcing everyone on the team to pray or something, I don't see why this went to SCOTUS. Someone wasted a lot of time and money with this one. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 06/27/22 11:06:11 AM #7: |
metallica846 posted... This went to the Supreme Court? From what I understand, Republicans turned this man into a folk hero. There was probably pressure for the judges to deal with this case ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Were_Wyrm 06/27/22 11:11:06 AM #9: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I believe he was told he couldn't do it with his players it had to be done alone, so he stopped all together and someone else sued on his behalf. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 06/27/22 11:16:52 AM #10: |
Moving more and more to a theocratic state. --- Doom, the game with unlimited ways to play. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sackgurl 06/27/22 11:16:54 AM #11: |
Questionmarktarius posted... A school can't compel you to pray, but can't forbid you from praying either.the question was sort of fundamentally whether your coach publicly praying in front of you and the rest of the team you're on, with an "open invitation" for you to join in, is compulsion as they consistently do of late, SCOTUS argues he is not explicitly saying he will kick you off the team if you don't join in so he's not compelling you, much like they said that campaign donations that aren't explicitly cartoon money bags with dollar signs on them being exchanged for a signed contract to support specific policy positions are not explicitly bribery --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 06/27/22 11:22:21 AM #12: |
Of course. Soon mandatory school prayer will be a thing. --- Star Trek: woke since 1965 and still going. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZevLoveDOOM 06/27/22 11:23:12 AM #13: |
good to know they have their priorities in order. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevar791 06/27/22 12:02:45 PM #14: |
Hopefully every Jewish, Muslims, and otherwise non-Christian school employee of faith starts practicing their faith on campuses. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevar791 06/27/22 12:04:00 PM #15: |
Also: https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1541429605520875522 --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 06/27/22 12:08:40 PM #16: |
How long before nutty religious teachers begin their classes with prayer that students can "opt out of"? --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 06/27/22 12:11:48 PM #17: |
Honestly, I'm strongly for the separation of church and state but I feel like this case is way overblown. --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sackgurl 06/27/22 12:32:18 PM #18: |
Nerevar791 posted... Also:best summary possible of the case --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Arcanine2009 06/27/22 12:36:44 PM #19: |
Nerevar791 posted... Hopefully every Jewish, Muslims, and otherwise non-Christian school employee of faith starts practicing their faith on campuses.oh yeah.. a Muslim coach bringing out the rug and praying would have caused a shit storm with republicans. But yeah I don't personally have an issue with anyone praying --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 06/27/22 12:48:29 PM #20: |
Were_Wyrm posted... I believe he was told he couldn't do it with his players it had to be done alone, so he stopped all together and someone else sued on his behalf. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61224856 He accepted the position, and for the next seven years prayed on the field after the games - sometimes alone and sometimes with players - apparently with little notice or controversy. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 06/27/22 12:56:03 PM #21: |
Thats wild. After every college football and nfl game you see people praying so I wouldve thought high school was the same. --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://i.imgur.com/pqMQZyw.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 06/27/22 1:18:54 PM #22: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted... Thats wild. After every college football and nfl game you see people praying so I wouldve thought high school was the same.It pretty much is. Even if they aren't praying, it's common for players to kneel around the coach after the game while he says stuff. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevar791 06/27/22 1:46:28 PM #23: |
CableZL posted... It pretty much is. Even if they aren't praying, it's common for players to kneel around the coach after the game while he says stuff.????????????????? what the fuck lmao. Praying and huddling while the coach talks are not even remotely the same thing. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 06/27/22 1:47:44 PM #24: |
I don't see why anyone would argue the decision. He's not making you or anyone else do it, he's just acting on his own for how he feels. He should have every right to if it's not disruptive. --- Remember kids: whatever doesn't kill you can be used as the basis for a lawsuit and a big settlement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevar791 06/27/22 1:48:41 PM #25: |
Solid Sonic posted... I don't see why anyone would argue the decision. He's not making you or anyone else do it, he's just acting on his own for how he feels. He should have every right to if it's not disruptive.Nerevar791 posted... Also: The 3 justices on the court who aren't christofascist nutjobs and many legal scholars are saying this is a huge blow to the establishment clause and separation of church and state but i'm sure you know better. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Quorthon109 06/27/22 1:51:03 PM #26: |
Nerevar791 posted... Hopefully every Jewish, Muslims, and otherwise non-Christian school employee of faith starts practicing their faith on campuses. --- http://i.imgur.com/Kjo08.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mybbqrules 06/27/22 1:52:20 PM #27: |
Who gives a flying fuck what someone does on the field after the game is over? I'm not exactly a big proponent of religion, but this is literally a nothingburger IMO. Hell, both teams kneel together and pray on the field if a player gets hurt bad during the game. --- Twice impeached, one-term President Donald J. Trump: Officially the worst president in American history after his seditious, traitorous acts on Jan 6, 2021. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 06/27/22 1:52:30 PM #28: |
It's protecting HIS rights to express his faith, it's not mandating anything above that. I'm just surprised they needed to drag this to the highest court in the land. You'd think this would have been dealt with at a lower court. Now that said if this causes a slippery slope precedent where the implications are perverted to actually impinge on the separation of church and state with no pushback then that would be unacceptable but in as many words as the topic is saying I don't see any conflict. --- Remember kids: whatever doesn't kill you can be used as the basis for a lawsuit and a big settlement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MasterVading 06/27/22 1:53:58 PM #29: |
--- Wat. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevar791 06/27/22 1:54:29 PM #30: |
Solid Sonic posted... It's protecting HIS rights to express his faith, it's not mandating anything above that.Him coercing his players either directly or indirectly to participate is not within his personal choice. And again: Nerevar791 posted... The 3 justices on the court who aren't christofascist nutjobs and many legal scholars are saying this is a huge blow to the establishment clause and separation of church and state but i'm sure you know better. Also: https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1541421492566728704 --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 06/27/22 1:54:55 PM #31: |
Do some people really need to turn everything into an ideological battle? --- I don't wanna wait in vain for your love. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevar791 06/27/22 1:55:04 PM #32: |
https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1541427850183471104 Like seriously --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 06/27/22 1:55:25 PM #33: |
Nerevar791 posted... The 3 justices on the court who aren't christofascist nutjobs and many legal scholars are saying this is a huge blow to the establishment clause and separation of church and state but i'm sure you know better.Imagine being upset about a man being able to pray by himself after a sporting event and calling anyone else a religious fascist. It's insane that this wasn't a 9-0 unanimous ruling. --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 06/27/22 1:55:30 PM #34: |
Honestly I respect people who live openly in faith but heed others' decision to participate or hear them out. Living by example without being overbearing or unwelcome. --- Remember kids: whatever doesn't kill you can be used as the basis for a lawsuit and a big settlement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevar791 06/27/22 1:55:55 PM #35: |
Solid Sonic posted... Honestly I respect people who live openly in faith but heed others' decision to participate or hear them out. Living by example without being overbearing or unwelcome. Nerevar791 posted... https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1541427850183471104 --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 06/27/22 1:56:59 PM #36: |
Since you want to do it like this: I refuse to acknowledge facts that undermine what I have already stated. --- Remember kids: whatever doesn't kill you can be used as the basis for a lawsuit and a big settlement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nerevar791 06/27/22 1:57:59 PM #37: |
Solid Sonic posted... Since you want to do it like this: I refuse to acknowledge facts that undermine what I have already stated.You're saying he was "living in faith" and not asking others to join or being overbearing. He factually was. Sorry the fake news you live on lied to you, but them's the facts. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mybbqrules 06/27/22 2:16:59 PM #38: |
Nerevar791 posted... https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1541427850183471104Well, that changes my opinion. If he was praying on his own I wouldn't care. If he continues trying to coerce others to join him after repeatedly being told not to? Yeah, that's a paddlin'. --- Twice impeached, one-term President Donald J. Trump: Officially the worst president in American history after his seditious, traitorous acts on Jan 6, 2021. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 06/27/22 3:11:33 PM #39: |
Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. This dude was so far up his own ass that he was inviting journalists and politicians to come watch him pray on the field. Truly a shining example of the faith. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 06/27/22 3:23:44 PM #40: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/8/AAY0fDAADY4I.jpg --- https://imgur.com/gallery/noqoWTm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMikh 06/27/22 3:30:17 PM #41: |
Nerevar791 posted... Hopefully every Jewish, Muslims, and otherwise non-Christian school employee of faith starts practicing their faith on campuses.my high school's msa had weekly jummah services on campus; the school just couldn't excuse student absences for it iirc edit: overlooked the "employee" part, i think it was just students in our case --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 06/27/22 6:02:56 PM #42: |
ThePrinceFish posted... Imagine being upset about a man being able to pray by himself after a sporting event and calling anyone else a religious fascist. Guessing you didn't read the thread? He was leading students in prayers (post 32) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TreyFlowers 06/27/22 6:33:02 PM #43: |
Americans and your religion. You guys are crazy. If someone did that in Australia, everyone would look at him like he was a fucking nutbag. Religion isn't a thing here, certainly not a public thing. --- and i know i'm not dead because i just threw up in my own mouth, swallowed back, this hangover ain't that bad ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 06/27/22 6:38:56 PM #44: |
Ruvan22 posted...
PrinceFish? Read? Hahahahahaha --- https://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7fCcfko.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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