Current Events > Diablo Immortal has possibly the most aggressive monetization of any mobile game

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s0nicfan
06/02/22 12:47:09 PM
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Not just the usual lootboxes and premium currency, but THREE battlepasses, a pseudo-subscription system, $15 cosmetics, a gem system that gates the highest tiers (and thus the biggest player power) behind either a paywall or an obscene wait, an "awakening" system where you have to pay real money to fully unlock a gem's ability, AND a "resonance" system that you have to invest in as well to give that awakened gem more abilities. Level and Gear stat bonuses are basically trivial compared to gem bonuses, but you can't even get 5-star gems unless you use a special limited item which you of course can buy, and those gems needs to be fused, awakened, and resonated to fully unlock.

People are doing the math and getting a single character to maxed out 5/5 5-star fully awakened gems could cost over $100,000

It's like Blizzard has just said "fuck it, let's just drain out fanbase dry before they all quit anyway."

Oh, and it has facial recognition software and other tracking programs embedded in the western version because it's NetEase and China.

EDIT: You can't even collect your free daily reward unless you go into the store so they can barrage you with "limited time" deals. I've played my fair share of fp2 mobile games and this is absolutely disgusting in comparison.

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darkphoenix181
06/02/22 12:48:15 PM
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What is sad is that the usual Blizzard fans will buy all of it. ALL of it.
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BuckVanHammer
06/02/22 12:49:08 PM
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ya this tweet convinced me to not even bother

https://twitter.com/jeffgerstmann/status/1532030349487706112?t=To4r13t491lsdrhhZLUjEA&s=19

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JanuarySun
06/02/22 12:49:12 PM
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I actually pre-registered for this and was gonna download it, but now i'm not so sure... this sounds even worse than the numerous gachas I like playing, x.x

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Veggeta_MAX
06/02/22 12:55:07 PM
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I'll let yall know how good or bad this game is.

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darkphoenix181
06/02/22 12:57:11 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
I'll let yall know how good or bad this game is.

We can count on you to spend $100,000k
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Veggeta_MAX
06/02/22 12:57:39 PM
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I'm going to be a F2P guy

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JuanCarlos1
06/02/22 12:58:37 PM
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Well it IS Activision Blizzard after all. Wouldnt have expected any different.

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Turtlemayor333
06/02/22 12:59:04 PM
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You guys don't have wallets?

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What_
06/02/22 12:59:16 PM
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Yikes. Peeps at work are so hyped too.
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Smashingpmkns
06/02/22 1:02:34 PM
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You should check out Game of Dice lol

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Evillink2000
06/02/22 1:02:57 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
You guys don't have wallets?
Came here to say this.
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darkphoenix181
06/02/22 1:03:10 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
You guys don't have wallets?

I have a phone.
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DarkRoast
06/02/22 1:04:30 PM
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I've heard that the game itself is OK. But they can GTFO with that monetization

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wackyteen
06/02/22 1:04:42 PM
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You guys don't have limitless credit cards?

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holy_bolt
06/02/22 1:16:11 PM
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Yeah, no way in hell I was playing this even before I found out about this but now I'm actively discouraging friends from trying it too

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KeeperOfShadows
06/02/22 1:17:16 PM
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Meh. If the game is fine without spending anything, they can have as many microtransactions as they like.

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sondast
06/02/22 1:19:11 PM
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That all sounds like typical micro transactions for f2p games.

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Questionmarktarius
06/02/22 1:20:35 PM
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free to play, go away
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Veggeta_MAX
06/02/22 1:22:23 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

D2R is still going strong but they need to fucking fix interface for multiplayer

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DipDipDiver
06/02/22 1:24:09 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
People are doing the math and getting a single character to maxed out 5/5 5-star fully awakened gems could cost over $100,000
So I'm guessing the game is not designed to be played with a maxed out character. Probably breaks the game at some point tbh
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Questionmarktarius
06/02/22 1:25:04 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
Probably breaks the game at some point tbh
...isn't that the entire point?
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darkphoenix181
06/02/22 1:25:23 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
So I'm guessing the game is not designed to be played with a maxed out character. Probably breaks the game at some point tbh

Wishful thinking.

If you can play the game fine without paying money, then they didn't make it right because the point of the game is to make you spend money.
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Koishi
06/02/22 1:25:59 PM
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sondast posted...
That all sounds like typical micro transactions for f2p games.
This is going way further than typical monetization, and even still this sort of thing shouldn't be accepted as a norm or they'll keep going further and further

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DipDipDiver
06/02/22 1:27:02 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Wishful thinking.

If you can play the game fine without paying money, then they didn't make it right because the point of the game is to make you spend money.
You could say that about any f2p game, but how many of us actually spend money on them? I know I don't
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darkphoenix181
06/02/22 1:28:17 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
You could say that about any f2p game, but how many of us actually spend money on them? I know I don't

League of Legends?
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KeeperOfShadows
06/02/22 1:28:40 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Wishful thinking.

If you can play the game fine without paying money, then they didn't make it right because the point of the game is to make you spend money.
That's how the vast majority of f2p games are designed, though. The tricks they use to get people to spend are slow progression and fomo. Many people don't have great impulse control, especially when it comes to gaming.

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DrizztLink
06/02/22 1:29:19 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
...isn't that the entire point?
I'd make a joke about a hardcore mode that deletes your character and keeps all the money but I don't want to put ideas in their heads.

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DipDipDiver
06/02/22 1:33:09 PM
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The point is, yeah it might cost $100k to max out a character but that means no part of the game is going to be designed for maxed out characters
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NeonOctopus
06/02/22 1:34:38 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Oh, and it has facial recognition software and other tracking programs embedded in the western version because it's NetEase and China.
wait what is this? Can you elaborate?

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Questionmarktarius
06/02/22 1:36:03 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
I'd make a joke about a hardcore mode that deletes your character and keeps all the money but I don't want to put ideas in their heads.
brb, making a f2p moneyhole roguelike now.
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s0nicfan
06/02/22 1:56:46 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
wait what is this? Can you elaborate?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/uyjdh3/diablo_immortal_might_be_able_to_track_our_faces/

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Veggeta_MAX
06/02/22 1:58:26 PM
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The game is pretty fun for no f2p atm. just got level 25 and ran the first big dungeon with randos like 3 times. its madness fun.

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DrizztLink
06/02/22 1:59:37 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/uyjdh3/diablo_immortal_might_be_able_to_track_our_faces/
That thread is literally tagged as "Misleading."

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NeonOctopus
06/02/22 2:00:49 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/uyjdh3/diablo_immortal_might_be_able_to_track_our_faces/
The thread makes it seem like that aspect is a nothingburger >_>

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fhqwhgads
06/02/22 2:04:03 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
What is sad is that the usual Blizzard fans will buy all of it. ALL of it.


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Veggeta_MAX
06/02/22 2:05:27 PM
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I don't think there's a giant mass of die on the hill Blizzard fans like some of you guys think there is.

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Robot2600
06/02/22 2:06:19 PM
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the blizzard is more like a puddle

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CapnMuffin
06/02/22 2:07:02 PM
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Its a double edged sword.

If making this game is the only way to keep this shit out of the actual Diablo games, Ill take it.
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fhqwhgads
06/02/22 2:08:25 PM
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Wait this guy says there's no lootboxes or prw aspects at all, what is the truth?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80040962

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Maninstagnate
06/02/22 2:12:19 PM
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Played for a hour and haven't been shoved in my face any "buy it now" things yet. Pretty good so far.
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Jagr_68
06/02/22 2:14:37 PM
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Looks exactly like Diablo III but with mega MTXs.

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Collat
06/02/22 2:17:23 PM
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Mobile games will always go after the whales.
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Veggeta_MAX
06/02/22 2:17:43 PM
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fhqwhgads posted...
Wait this guy says there's no lootboxes or prw aspects at all, what is the truth?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80040962
Loot boxes are more like gachas where you buy in-game premium currency and use them for a low chance to get a high end item or character.

What this game has is the ability for you to buy in-game premium currency and use it to buy high grade things. There is no play of gambling to get high end items. It's p2w directly where you buy materials and are guaranteed for drops, there's no lootboxes.

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Questionmarktarius
06/02/22 2:20:33 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
It's p2w directly where you buy materials and are guaranteed for drops, there's no lootboxes.
Classic free-to-wait, huh?
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s0nicfan
06/02/22 2:41:49 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
There is no play of gambling to get high end items. It's p2w directly where you buy materials and are guaranteed for drops, there's no lootboxes.

There are, but theyre somewhat obscured. Rather than opening a box to get a reward, you open a rift to fight a couple of enemies to get a reward, but the quality of your reward depends on what you slot into that rift. By default you can only get common two or three star gems from a rift, but if you put in a legendary item in the slot you have the opportunity of maybe getting a five-star gem.

The problem is that the item you need to open a legendary rift is something you only get a couple of per month, but you can buy as many as you want.

Five star gems can also come with a rating of 1 to 5. To upgrade your rating you need to fuse it with other gems with the same number of slots, meaning to get a 5/5 five star gem you need to luck out on getting five of them to fuse. Then you need to awaken it and then resonate with it to unlock its remaining abilities, one of which can only be done with the equivalent of like $13 in premium currency.

So they basically took a pretty aggressive low drop rate loot box system and then manage to make it worse by letting you upgrade the quality of your loot box with items and then obscured the whole process behind a tiny little one minute fight so you don't realize you're opening a loot box.

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Veggeta_MAX
06/02/22 2:45:08 PM
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Lootboxes is gambling. You're playing a game of chance with that. What they are offering is a guaranteed high quality item so long as you buy the item and use the purpose for it.

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Ruvan22
06/02/22 3:02:01 PM
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Does it have a plot line? If so is it connected to D3?
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Autocraticus
06/02/22 3:02:43 PM
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I'm level 16 and I'm about to go into Leorics dungeon. Seems good so far. Nice mobile game.
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