Board 8 > Star Wars and Pokemon Mafia Topic 9 - Diamond/Pearl

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:11:50 AM
#151:


'It isn't that OP'

The official mafia scum summary for mirror

'A Mirror role is intensely powerful at protecting itself; not only is it impossible to do anything directly to a Mirror at night, it will even kill people who try to kill you (which can only backfire if you belong to an uninformed faction like the Town, and there's a Vigilante in the game, although this is of course entirely possible). It can also be confirmed by almost any investigative role (sometimes even if the change of target is kept hidden, e.g. a Tracker will see fairly distinctive results in a mirror). This means that they only really fear the elimination, which still works normally on a Mirror.'

Arti posted...
I have not.

So you think you have done enough to fight for yourself to get off another scan tonight?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:13:30 AM
#153:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


*blinks*

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:15:45 AM
#154:


Ah I see a mirror variant. And there is apparently a hider variant. And their pokedex entries are next to each other.

... are we being made fun of

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:17:24 AM
#155:


So to clarify if I scanned you tonight I would get a result and you would get a result. Correct?

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/27/22 10:21:50 AM
#156:


Actually not sure if this helps but wouldn't lea also have been a prosty? Like wouldn't i have also got a message saying I was slept with or is that not how this works?

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/27/22 10:22:40 AM
#157:


Oh wait nvm her mirror is pokemon

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:22:43 AM
#158:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Actually not sure if this helps but wouldn't lea also have been a prosty? Like wouldn't i have also got a message saying I was slept with or is that not how this works?

She claimed this role for even nights and you slept with her on an odd night.

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/27/22 10:25:05 AM
#159:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
She claimed this role for even nights and you slept with her on an odd night.

Yupp i was being dumb. But also bobafett being town and also a vanilla is weird but im not gonna flavor mental it

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:28:02 AM
#162:


If both you and arti are town it will be 4 out of 11 going into day 6 and honestly I will be perplexed given the current game state much less what we would have by then. Remind me who you like as scum besides mzero?

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htaeD
05/27/22 10:30:18 AM
#163:


Actually this makes me wonder if the result stealer didnt move night for fear of watchers.

Leanansidhe posted...
You slept with me, but I was kinda a starfish about it, didn't count as sleeping with you back


What are you even talking about?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:30:46 AM
#164:


htaeD posted...
Actually this makes me wonder if the result stealer didnt move night for fear of watchers.

What are you even talking about?

Joke

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htaeD
05/27/22 10:34:44 AM
#166:


We know Lea didn't move night1 (if we believe Sultan and I dont see why we wouldn't), but he wasnt a mirror at that time anyway according to him.

And I expected a power like that to not work on killing powers anyway.
Which sounds like a subtle way to also tell Red that there wont be an infinite loop?

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/27/22 10:35:16 AM
#167:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Well youre the one who paid for it thats how prostitution works lol

Also thats not what you said that night boom lol

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:35:53 AM
#168:


That would indeed be quite the scum team. I give that scum team 0 equity to win given how likely they are to be targeted and prodded over the next two nights.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:36:15 AM
#169:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Well youre the one who paid for it thats how prostitution works lol

Also thats not what you said that night boom lol

Boom


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htaeD
05/27/22 10:36:25 AM
#170:


The fact that the scanner still gets their scan as well is not what I expected though. I thought the role was explained differently in that only you (Lea) gets the scan.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:36:55 AM
#172:


htaeD posted...
We know Lea didn't move night1 (if we believe Sultan and I dont see why we wouldn't), but he wasnt a mirror at that time anyway according to him.

And I expected a power like that to not work on killing powers anyway.
Which sounds like a subtle way to also tell Red that there wont be an infinite loop?

Yeah Lea already said it doesn't work on anything that kills. Which personally I find to be a lack of fun. Wobby knows destiny bond

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htaeD
05/27/22 10:37:55 AM
#174:


Destiny Bond sounds more like it would fit Reds claimed power. But Girafarig doesnt learn it in any generation as far as I know.

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htaeD
05/27/22 10:41:14 AM
#176:


Gladiator was the star wars side of Kirby's claim tho

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:41:40 AM
#178:


htaeD posted...
Destiny Bond sounds more like it would fit Reds claimed power. But Girafarig doesnt learn it in any generation as far as I know.

Just thinking of wobby moveset.

I feel like only I can make gladiator fun. But it's a bad role yes

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 10:42:56 AM
#180:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I think the scum team was pretty fucked the moment I rolled 'town with a chip on my shoulder'

Killing two scum and protecting power for as long as we have is basically S tier town leadership. Now we reap the benefits of an amazing early game.

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htaeD
05/27/22 10:47:52 AM
#181:


I also hate to say it, but the idea of letting Arti do one more flavorscan is tempting

But if he is scum, we wont know if he gave us a true town or one of his own mates.

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Kirby321
05/27/22 10:53:38 AM
#183:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Hey Kirby, I have a question if youre around.

I've got a class to teach in a few minutes, but ask away and I'll see it before I head out.

Also, we are not listening to Lea and letting Arti live again. If they're both scum, clearly Arti has a role worth protecting (roleblocker, perhaps?).

Frankly, it's no loss if we lose a Vanilla/Flavor Cop. We already established that since Pokmon don't have flavor splits, Flavor Cop ain't really that useful anyway. We risk exposing more townies' flavors than scum, but which will only help scum more than it helps us since we wouldn't be able to tell which flavors are scum anyway. Unless somehow we get Emperor Palpitoad or General Grieninja or something crazy obvious like that. But I don't think any of the Star Wars flavors have been obvious based on Pokmon.

Do not listen to the fairy. She only feeds you lies.

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htaeD
05/27/22 10:57:02 AM
#184:


Leanansidhe posted...
A town Arti will die eventually and you'll know it's legit. I wouldn't expect anyone to just suddenly believe Arti and lynch someone on his word alone.


He's in line behind me, HB, Kirby, Sultan, Red, maybe you. I dont think he dies eventually before it is too late.

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Obellisk
05/27/22 11:02:51 AM
#187:


Guys and Gals, I know the solution. I slept on it long and hard and I know how we fix all of this.

we lynch ulti.

have a great day.

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Obellisk
05/27/22 11:04:39 AM
#188:


but seriously, I don't care if we lynch arti or Lea or mzero.

we are far enough infront to have a mislynch or two. and if that's what it takes to make you lynch obvious scum, I can wait.

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Hbthebattle
05/27/22 11:08:11 AM
#189:


Arti posted...
Let's see, the scanning claims currently are

Odd - cop, tracker, prosty
Even - watcher, flavor cop, flavor cop, hider, psychic

That seems... relatively balanced to me? A lot of weak scanning roles with just the cop and watcher being strong. Especially with the Pokemon side having no clear flavor split and both flavor cops being on that side of the game.
Isquens Miller claim on the pokemon side implies a cop on the pokemon side

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 11:09:17 AM
#191:


Hbthebattle posted...
Isquens Miller claim on the pokemon side implies a cop on the pokemon side

Or just han fucking with everyone.

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Arti
05/27/22 11:12:29 AM
#193:


Hbthebattle posted...
Isquens Miller claim on the pokemon side implies a cop on the pokemon side
I've put a miller and a godfather in a game with no cop

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htaeD
05/27/22 11:57:10 AM
#194:


DoomTheGyarados posted...


Or just han fucking with everyone.

Or Isquen is a dirty liar.

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htaeD
05/27/22 12:05:23 PM
#196:


Best option, a legit pokemon cop claims day4 with even more innocent scans

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Arti
05/27/22 12:09:11 PM
#197:


I mean we have an innocent scan from Red he just won't claim it

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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/22 12:10:18 PM
#198:


Just assume it is abacus and if abacus is scum blame red later

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HanOfTheNekos
05/27/22 12:24:24 PM
#199:


Votals, Rhyhorn, Clefable, Wigglytuff!
[5] Arti: Ulti, (Isquen), (Kirby), Chris, Abacus, Kirby, Death
[3] MZero: Arti, Isquen, Lea
[2] Ulti: (Chris), Sultan, SBell
[1] Lea: Red
[0] Red: Kirby
[0] Scare: (Lea)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to reach majority. Day ends Friday at 7 eastern, roughly 6.5 hours from now.

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