Current Events > Active shooter at Texas elementary school

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scorpion41 posted...

The dude shot his grandmother before going to the school. Does that sound like someone who is mentally stable to you? Mental illness is the biggest driving factor behind these shootings, but left-wing rhetoric would have you believe its the evil guns. So rather than address the real problem that we can actually do something about, its a never-ending circle jerk trying to circumvent a constitutional amendment.

Mental health care in addition to mental health assessments are also things that the left has been pushing for that the right has been staunchly against.

I'm willing to concede that mass shootings are a result of mental illness once we admit embracing gun culture is a mental illness

DarthAragorn posted...

hey bud

what's the one thing all mass shootings have in common

I'll even give you extra time to think about it

Mental illness. Something happened in every one of these murderers lives to make them think that killing people is their only solution, especially since most of them end up dead.

Nice try though.

Tappor posted...

suspended now, thank goodness

Hell get purge as Allen never actually checks suspensions properly before deciding.

scorpion41 posted...

Mental illness. Something happened in every one of these murderers lives to make them think that killing people is their only solution, especially since most of them end up dead.

Nice try though.

Weird how in other countries those with mental illnesses don't end up going on shooting sprees

Have they said anything about how he got the weapons?

Walmart, some alley, some guy showing up at his home carrying black bags.

Fun fact: Abbott is speaking at an NRA convention next weekend. An NRA convention where guns are not allowed.

https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1529208965522829312

scorpion41 posted...

The dude shot his grandmother before going to the school. Does that sound like someone who is mentally stable to you? Mental illness is the biggest driving factor behind these shootings, but left-wing rhetoric would have you believe its the evil guns. So rather than address the real problem that we can actually do something about, its a never-ending circle jerk trying to circumvent a constitutional amendment.

damn if we worked on mental health AND got rid of guns, that would be the dream

Omg people who bring in lit candles keep burning our wooden store! Should we ban candles?

Nah, let's keep the candles but look into the life of the candle bringer after they burn our store.

scorpion41 posted...

Mental illness. Something happened in every one of these murderers lives to make them think that killing people is their only solution, especially since most of them end up dead.

Nice try though.

https://i.imgur.com/fbsKNZQ.jpeg

I agree. Above is a big example of mental illness running rampant in this country

scorpion41 posted...

Mental illness. Something happened in every one of these murderers lives to make them think that killing people is their only solution, especially since most of them end up dead.

Nice try though.

The same politicians you support because you're obsessed with guns and worshiping our shitty, outdated constitution also stonewall progress on mental healthcare at every single turn, so quit pretending you give a shit about the mental health crisis.

The shootings will continue

scorpion41 posted...

Mental illness. Something happened in every one of these murderers lives to make them think that killing people is their only solution,

Isn't this a bit tautological? You're saying that by definition those who kill people are mentally ill, but is that how illness is diagnosed?

At any rate, mentally ill people with less access to guns are less dangerous to themselves and others.

Fucking sickening. They NEED to overhaul or make some new laws on guns violence. I don't frikin care if all guns be taken away, I also don't care if some fuckin redneck say bullshit "mUh fReEdOm". Fuck you and your amendment freedom bullshit. We didn't create the constitution and give people firearms so they could shoot up little kids

scorpion41 posted...

The dude shot his grandmother before going to the school. Does that sound like someone who is mentally stable to you? Mental illness is the biggest driving factor behind these shootings, but left-wing rhetoric would have you believe its the evil guns. So rather than address the real problem that we can actually do something about, its a never-ending circle jerk trying to circumvent a constitutional amendment.

Address the problem like trump did his first month in office when he made it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns?

Veggeta_MAX posted...

I dunno the gun laws and the process of getting them in Texas.

They practically give out guns in Texas. Pretty soon they'll throw them in with your groceries if you spend over a certain dollar amount.

I feel that blaming mental health is just a cop out answer because no one ever addresses how do we go about doing it. It's true that Mental Health is something we should be striving to get better at, the big and uncomfortable question is how exactly do we address it and how exactly we do fix it? Can it be something we fix? Are the methods done to fix the issue even morally correct? There's also another thing about people getting the wrong diagnosis or how about mass shooters that don't have any diagnosis of mental health issues? I feel that there should be more nuance to the applications and practicality regarding saying to improve mental health for everyone.

Gun culture is a mental illness

Thoughts and Prayers is the only thing we can ever do this country is rotten to the core

I don't think you have to be mentally ill to go murder a bunch of people.

ZeroV2 posted...

why are these people so obsessed with guns? I legitimately don't know. but they are

I mean have you seen the types to share their obsession on social media? They're usually overweight manlets

So they like feeling powerful for once in their miserable lives with their big shooty sticks

I'm not sure what advocating for increased mental health screening is supposed to be doing when gun nuts also stigmatize mental health treatment as well. Those people need to spend a little less money on guns and more on seeing a therapist.

scorpion41 posted...

The dude shot his grandmother before going to the school. Does that sound like someone who is mentally stable to you? Mental illness is the biggest driving factor behind these shootings, but left-wing rhetoric would have you believe its the evil guns. So rather than address the real problem that we can actually do something about, its a never-ending circle jerk trying to circumvent a constitutional amendment.

scorpion41 posted...

What a dumb take, stop posting please

DarthAragorn posted...

I don't think you have to be mentally ill to go murder a bunch of people.

But enough about war.

scorpion41 posted...

Mental illness. Something happened in every one of these murderers lives to make them think that killing people is their only solution, especially since most of them end up dead.

Nice try though.

The problem you are running into here is like....

Ok then should we do something about mentally ill people having access to guns or should we talk about the effects of spreading conspiracy theories onto mentally ill people?

Those kinds of concerns don't just magically disappear when you use the words mental and illness.

scorpion41 posted...

Mental illness is the biggest driving factor behind these shootings, but left-wing rhetoric would have you believe its the evil guns.

No. Just no.

Why are we dismissing mental illness being a reason? Gun culture is a mental illness.

Mental health, but I bet you if Scorp'd taxes increased ever so slightly so Americans can get cheaper access to mental help he'd throw a fit.

RenescoStCewl posted...

Address the problem like trump did his first month in office when he made it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns?

This is a huge one too. We actually made it easier for people with mental health issues to get guns. Is it any wonder why mass shootings are increasing?

scorpion41 posted...

The dude shot his grandmother before going to the school. Does that sound like someone who is mentally stable to you? Mental illness is the biggest driving factor behind these shootings, but left-wing rhetoric would have you believe its the evil guns. So rather than address the real problem that we can actually do something about, its a never-ending circle jerk trying to circumvent a constitutional amendment.

Right-wing politicians are well known for wanting to expand government-funded healthcare after all.

Also, the Constiution was built to be modified, no matter how holy people think it is. And no one is ever going to take your fucking guns regardless.

Ban guns its the only way

Shadow Don posted...

The problem you are running into here is like....

Ok then should we do something about mentally ill people having access to guns or should we talk about the effects of spreading conspiracy theories onto mentally ill people?

Those kinds of concerns don't just magically disappear when you use the words mental and illness.

I guess they just want us to invent a "mental illness" pill that fixes it. Or throw everyone in asylums.

This is beyond heartbreaking. Cant even put it into words. Those poor children and families :(

Deutschenlied posted...

Also, the Constiution was built to be modified, no matter how holy people think it is. And no one is ever going to take your fucking guns regardless.

It's crazy to think not even 100 years had passed from when people were still put on trial and executed for being a witch that the second amendment was drafted.

Given what we have learned nearly 250 years later in regards to mental health, the amendment absolutely needs modern day adjustments.

WinningIsEasy posted...

Why are we dismissing mental illness being a reason? Gun culture is a mental illness.

We're not. We're dismissing the liars who use it as a cudgel every time someone kills a bunch of innocent people with guns despite never, ever, not even for a second caring about it at any other point in time unless they're actively making the situation worse.

In the U.K. in 1996 the dunblane massacre happened. 16 kids and one teacher shot dead by a single shooter with his legally owned guns. Very similar to this situation.

In response, the U.K. government banned all guns except single shot cartridge weapons.

We havent had another school shooting since.

I get the argument that there are already too many guns in America. But thats a cop out for me. It literally does not happen in any other developed country like it does in America. There is no decent argument at al for it been legal to buy and own guns so easily: its fucking insane.

cjsdowg posted...

Dammit they are saying 14 kids were killed.

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1529204132715765760

Fuck you, Abbott.

A portion of their blood is directly on your hands, you despicable, traitorous republican fuckwad.

Blaming mental health is so fucking dumb. If Putin launches nukes to destroy the whole world, it doesn't matter if we know the status of his mental wellness. We're dead.

If a man in the park has paranoid schizophrenia and was stabbing people because he is terrified of the government, I want that person PUT AWAY. I don't care where. I am sorry that their life is terrible and every day is hell for them. I want them AWAY because they are a danger to MY WELL BEING. If I had kids, even moreso. That is a big reason why we jail people, when they are a danger to society.

Mental health is not the answer to solving violence. Respecting mental health is overall a benefit to society, but trying to act like it's the solution to mass killings is utopian. Idk if any of you normies even realize but therapy does not cure everything 'wrong' with someone. Sometimes killers don't even believe there is anything about them that needs fixing.

It's not like an anime where someone has one conversation with the right perspective with a villain and suddenly they're the good guy because they understand the wrong of their ways.

spaghettyhoop posted...

In the U.K. in 1996 the dunblane massacre happened. 16 kids and one teacher shot dead by a single shooter with his legally owned guns. Very similar to this situation.

In response, the U.K. government banned all guns except single shot cartridge weapons.

We havent had another school shooting since.

I get the argument that there are already too many guns in America. But thats a cop out for me. It literally does not happen in any other developed country like it does in America. There is no decent argument at al for it been legal to buy and own guns so easily: its fucking insane.

"That's just a side effect of being in the greatest country in the world" or something.

We're so great despite apparently being more violent and crazy than anywhere else.

If the past few years have taught us anything, it's that the amount of dangerous mentally ill people is fucking massive. Idk how we even would go about treating this many folks. It's strangely more difficult than getting rid of guns.

Master Kazuya posted...

Blaming mental health is so fucking dumb.

look at who is doing it in this topic

CADE FOSTER posted...

Ban guns its the only way

I mean not so much, because other countries don't have this problem.

It's gun culture that's the issue. Americans have an unhealthy obsession with guns. If we banned guns, that doesn't solve the obsession problem.

Gun culture is a mental illness that no one is willing to step up and tackle.

scorpion41 posted...

Because the bleeding hearts felt like metal detectors and high fences made schools feel more like prisons. So they nixed that shit.

No it wont because of the second and fourth amendment. No Congress is going to illegally break one of the amendments in the Bill of Rights, and no Congress will ever have enough majority to repeal them. Guns are here to stay. People need to get their mental health in check and we need to take more proactive measures like putting more police officers in schools.

Don't you get tired of pretending that everything else besides guns are the problem?

Master Kazuya posted...

Blaming mental health is so fucking dumb. If Putin launches nukes to destroy the whole world, it doesn't matter if we know the status of his mental wellness. We're dead.

If a man in the park has paranoid schizophrenia and was stabbing people because he is terrified of the government, I want that person PUT AWAY. I don't care where. I am sorry that their life is terrible and every day is hell for them. I want them AWAY because they are a danger to MY WELL BEING. If I had kids, even moreso. That is a big reason why we jail people, when they are a danger to society.

Mental health is not the answer to solving violence. Respecting mental health is overall a benefit to society, but trying to act like it's the solution to mass killings is utopian. Idk if any of you normies even realize but therapy does not cure everything 'wrong' with someone. Sometimes killers don't even believe there is anything about them that needs fixing.

It's not like an anime where someone has one conversation with the right perspective with a villain and suddenly they're the good guy because they understand the wrong of their ways.

The people who harp on about mental illness every time this happens aren't being genuine about their concern for it. They don't care about it, at all. Ever. They just want to keep their guns and are deliberately muddying the waters by complaining about mental healthcare because admitting they are okay with blood sacrifices from innocent children is bad optics.

AP3Brain posted...

Don't you get tired of pretending that everything else besides guns are the problem?

It's so dumb. It's like saying people should be allowed to drive as drunk as they want, we should look at their mental health after they crash their car.

Master Kazuya posted...

It's so dumb. It's like saying people should be allowed to drive as drunk as they want, we should look at their mental health after they crash their car.

Fortunately we don't have a nationwide obsession with driving drunk.

It's the obsession over guns that is the core of the issue. Kids grow up in families that shove guns down their throat. There is nothing inherently wrong with guns themselves. The issue is that America as a whole obsesses over them to the point where they value them as much if not more than human lives.

PlantBased posted...

The people who harp on about mental illness every time this happens aren't being genuine about their concern for it. They don't care about it, at all. Ever. They just want to keep their guns and are deliberately muddying the waters by complaining about mental healthcare because admitting they are okay with blood sacrifices from innocent children is bad optics.

Seriously these are the same type of people that wonder why depressed people don't just stop being sad and why you can't cure your social anxiety by just being yourself.

scorpion41 posted...

Because the bleeding hearts felt like metal detectors and high fences made schools feel more like prisons. So they nixed that shit.

No it wont because of the second and fourth amendment. No Congress is going to illegally break one of the amendments in the Bill of Rights, and no Congress will ever have enough majority to repeal them. Guns are here to stay. People need to get their mental health in check and we need to take more proactive measures like putting more police officers in schools.

Like the one at Stoneman Douglas who stood outside filling his socks with fear diarrhea as the little MAGA chudlet inside mowed down his fellow students?

Fuck.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall.

The.

Way.

Off.