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SwayM
05/20/22 9:42:14 PM
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People get triggered by both sides because they dont have the reasoning skills, common sense, or empathy to understand all positions involved.

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DarkBuster22904
05/20/22 9:44:07 PM
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Or, conversely, we have the reasoning skills, common sense, and empathy to understand all positions, and after analyzing and considering all of the evidence, have concluded that one side is decisively worse than the other.

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Vicious_Dios
05/20/22 9:44:15 PM
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Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

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_____Cait
05/20/22 9:45:09 PM
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One side openly has been endorsing racism, Russian terrorism, homophobia, participated in treason, destroyed the Constitution, wrecked the economy, blocked formula from being given to infants during this difficult time, and reduce workers rights.

The other side wants trans people to not get ridiculed, wants people to get enough money to keep the economy afloat, stop racism, fix education, and uphold the constitution. But it has blue haired people.

Whats the issue?

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_____Cait
05/20/22 9:45:39 PM
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Also both sides people tend to be republicans who are just beginning to realize they might be the bad guys.

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Deutschenlied
05/20/22 9:46:40 PM
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One side doesn't even know what empathy means.
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MegaManXYZ123
05/20/22 9:47:48 PM
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True

Its like they can't recognize that compromising is what you need to do as an adult. You can't live on extremes.

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05/20/22 9:48:55 PM
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Persona6
05/20/22 9:58:40 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Or, conversely, we have the reasoning skills, common sense, and empathy to understand all positions, and after analyzing and considering all of the evidence, have concluded that one side is decisively worse than the other.

Maybe like 5% of people do, the rest just use it as a crutch because they self destruct whenever context and nuance is involved

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lolife67
05/20/22 10:01:29 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Or, conversely, we have the reasoning skills, common sense, and empathy to understand all positions, and after analyzing and considering all of the evidence, have concluded that one side is decisively worse than the other.

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myzz7
05/20/22 10:01:31 PM
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_____Cait posted...
One side openly has been endorsing racism, Russian terrorism, homophobia, participated in treason, destroyed the Constitution, wrecked the economy, blocked formula from being given to infants during this difficult time, and reduce workers rights.

The other side wants trans people to not get ridiculed, wants people to get enough money to keep the economy afloat, stop racism, fix education, and uphold the constitution. But it has blue haired people.

Whats the issue?
imagine actually believing this

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DarkRoast
05/20/22 10:04:42 PM
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I was right wing for two decades, and all I can say is that they're wrong about nearly everything.

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SwayM
05/20/22 10:05:49 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Or, conversely, we have the reasoning skills, common sense, and empathy to understand all positions, and after analyzing and considering all of the evidence, have concluded that one side is decisively worse than the other.

In what I said, I never gave any inclination that people cant be more right or wrong than another, but I look at things issue to issue, not side to side. If you had reasoning, common sense and empathy. You could see where literally both sides have reasons to believe what they believe. However in definitively stating that your side, as a whole, is right youre just demonstrating youre not opening up your mind to see anything the other side has to say. Which makes you full of shit on the reasoning, common sense and empathy, and you havent analyzed the entirety of it through those lenses. You couldnt possibly if theres still merit in both sides.

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Jiek_Fafn
05/20/22 10:06:10 PM
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There's are a few situations where "both sides" is a valid argument. On CE it comes across as whataboutisms most of the time though

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DarkRoast
05/20/22 10:07:53 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
There's are a few situations where "both sides" is a valid argument. On CE it comes across as whataboutisms most of the time though

The problem is that there's no such thing as civil debate anymore. If there was, I'd be willing to hear both sides of an issue. But one side is completely inundated with conspiracy theories and libertarian nonsense.

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LightHawKnight
05/20/22 10:08:07 PM
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Deutschenlied
05/20/22 10:08:55 PM
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Persona6 posted...
Maybe like 5% of people do, the rest just use it as a crutch because they self destruct whenever context and nuance is involved
Describe to us the context and nuance the left is ignoring on issues such as abortion, trans rights, and gay marriage.

What is the correct balance between banning things and freely allowing them? Between no one's business and the government having an obligation to make it their business?
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DarthAragorn
05/20/22 10:10:19 PM
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Deutschenlied posted...
Describe to us the context and nuance the left is ignoring on issues such as abortion, trans rights, and gay marriage.

What is the correct balance between banning things and freely allowing them? Between no one's business and the government having an obligation to make it their business?
"States rights!"

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KStateKing17
05/20/22 10:14:15 PM
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There are times when compromise and mutual responsibility is definitely appropriate for discussion. If there is something questionable going on in New Orleans for example, some obvious signs of mismanagement and such, then the conversation is about New Orleans leadership. If Matt Gaetz is caught doing some illegal shit, Maxine Waters doesn't need to get brought up unless she's doing the exact same thing.

They teach this stuff in early grade school. If little Tommy is pulling hair in class and gets in trouble, little Jonathan throwing wads two months ago has nothing to do with Tommy, but that's what "both sides" arguements do.

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myzz7
05/20/22 10:14:31 PM
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thinking a person votes for one party or another while endorsing the whole package is what causes many misunderstandings. "the economy, stupid!" from clinton's campaign manager is what sums up most voting power for most americans most of the time. they will vote to lower taxes or get some other economic boost as their sole single issue for the vote.

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AloneIBreak
05/20/22 10:16:54 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Or, conversely, we have the reasoning skills, common sense, and empathy to understand all positions, and after analyzing and considering all of the evidence, have concluded that one side is decisively worse than the other.
Lovely, but that doesnt mean they share nothing in common or that the better side should be absolved of criticism.

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Turtlemayor333
05/20/22 10:21:23 PM
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I've noticed the "both sides" people say they're nuanced and then take the most black-and-white positions possible.

If you were serious, you could say that one side needs to be better on the issue, while also bringing up some positive elements of their position on that issue and why they're ultimately better than the other side even if not perfect.

The core tenant of the "both sides" philosophy is to act like everything is exactly 50/50.

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Lost_All_Senses
05/20/22 10:26:27 PM
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Maybe people when claim both sides and aren't just being labelled for not ignoring faults andbad people on either end

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SwayM
05/20/22 10:27:31 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
I've noticed the "both sides" people say they're nuanced and then take the most black-and-white positions possible.

If you were serious, you could say that one side needs to be better on the issue, while also bringing up some positive elements of their position on that issue and why they're ultimately better than the other side even if not perfect.

The core tenant of the "both sides" philosophy is to act like everything is exactly 50/50.

No definitely not at all. Its not equal, and thats a dangerous trap to get in. But weve drawn lines down the middle, and thats the problem. People believe theres only two ways to look at the entirety of life


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Sphyx
05/20/22 11:39:27 PM
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TC: "Opinion X"
Anyone else: *blinks*
TC: "YOU SO TRIGGERED!!!!!!"

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dave_is_slick
05/20/22 11:47:37 PM
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SwayM
05/20/22 11:49:35 PM
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Sphyx posted...
TC: "Opinion X"
Anyone else: *blinks*
TC: "YOU SO TRIGGERED!!!!!!"

This is a strange reality you chose to live in my dude. Point me in any direction where this applies.

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What_
05/20/22 11:56:34 PM
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Twix?
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Lost_All_Senses
05/20/22 11:59:13 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
I've noticed the "both sides" people say they're nuanced and then take the most black-and-white positions possible.

If you were serious, you could say that one side needs to be better on the issue, while also bringing up some positive elements of their position on that issue and why they're ultimately better than the other side even if not perfect.

The core tenant of the "both sides" philosophy is to act like everything is exactly 50/50.

Mid part is fair.

I never feel specifically targeted by these posts, since Im more so pushed as a "Both Sides" guy and not really selling it. But I say why one side is worst while applying nuance and people here still respond with "Both sides!" In a mocking way. While they add absolutely nothing to the conversation after I just gave out paragraphs of talking points. You actually elaborating on it even a little is refreshing. You're not wrong about the mid part. But the solution is usually always the same, since no one ever fixes it. Less frivolous spending by the government and more cracking down on millionaires/billionaires evading taxes. But this is the thing ....neither side is gonna do that. People who would change things get pushed out so that both parties can keep the status quo. If Bernie Sanders was nominated instead of Joe Biden, I would have a completely different attitude. But we knew that wasn't gonna happen. He's too much of a threat to the status quo. It's obvious we're sold on the 2 party system still because they don't want to actually give us the chance to seriously get some change going. As long as this goes on, you gotta be kind of silly to completely dedicate yourself to being used.

Plus, you should always make your side feel like they need to fight to keep you on their side. Otherwise, You give them all your cards and just allow them to deploy you whenever they need you, without having to worry about actually giving you what you want.

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Hop103
05/21/22 12:01:25 AM
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It's mostly the far left who are triggered by both sides as they don't like any semblance of centrism coming out of peoples' mouths, even though it's what the West needs.

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Lost_All_Senses
05/21/22 12:03:36 AM
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Btw. You guys are also doing what both political sides do to each other too. You find the dumbest people who claim the group and you go "Ha, that's all of them!". It's a good way to keep a very shallow understanding of who you're trying to convince are wrong. You guys completely throw away the wisdom of learning your "enemy". It's strategically embarrassing.

You learn a lot more when you accept that people who don't think like you immediately might actually have some intelligence on something.

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gatorsPENSbucs
05/21/22 12:06:00 AM
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Damn, TC was absolutely correct.

Lost_All_Senses posted...
Btw. You guys are also doing what both political sides do to each other too. You find the dumbest people who claim the group and you go "Ha, that's all of them!". It's a good way to keep a very shallow understanding of who you're trying to convince are wrong. You guys completely throw away the wisdom of learning your "enemy". It's strategically embarrassing.

You learn a lot more when you accept that people who don't think like you immediately might actually have some intelligence on something.
Yup. This too.

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kingdrake2
05/21/22 12:17:36 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
You find the dumbest people who claim the group and you go "Ha, that's all of them!". It's a good way to keep a very shallow understanding of who you're trying to convince are wrong.


the "good" part of the republican died a long time ago :(.

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LongJohnSilvers
05/21/22 12:20:56 AM
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BuT BoTh SIdes Aree AcTuallY ThE RepubBlicans!!@!

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MrMallard
05/21/22 12:32:16 AM
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The issue with "both sides" is the assumption that both sides are equally as valid. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't.

So you'll get some dumb fuck going "yeah you believe in the mainstream vaccine science, but why aren't you addressing ivermectin and hydrochloroquine? You need to consider both sides before you can make an effective argument!".

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Ving_Rhames
05/21/22 12:42:49 AM
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Naaah the time for tolerating right wing bullshit has passed. Allowing these clowns to stay in power is what has caused America to stagnate, and is currently the reason it's regressing at a rapid pace. Fuck off with this nonsense.

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FortuneCookie
05/21/22 12:53:55 AM
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In one speech, Trump invalidated the weighing of both sides and turned the Republican party into a white supremacist party. It didn't happen immediately, but he legitimatized them. He invited people to take their mask off and still be accepted despite (or because) of their bigotry.

It's no longer a conflict of differing ideologies. It's now a black and white battle of good and evil. We can't disagree on gun control, the death penalty, how to run the economy. The only issue is whether you are pro-fascist/pro-racist or antifascist/antiracist. Which, of course, you have to agree on everything -- even if you don't -- for the greater good.

It may be possible for a decent person to live on Fox News Island and legitimately be unaware of what has happened to the Republican party in recent years. But if they ever stepped off of that island to look at the world for how it is, they would see that it has rapidly fallen to fascism. (And they might still argue, "...but socialism!")

And, of course, the left has been given what many have desperately wanted since the dawn of political factions: justification for blindly hating everyone who disagrees with them. (But you can't mention that -- or anything else -- without being a secret fascist agent sent to BoTh SiDeS the issue.)

How can one rich asshole singlehandedly fuck up America and everything in it?

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ScazarMeltex
05/21/22 12:54:03 AM
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SwayM posted...
People get triggered by both sides because they dont have the reasoning skills, common sense, or empathy to understand all positions involved.
No, it's mostly because one side has attempted a coup, is actively calling for violence against their political opponents, and is in the process of trying to wipe out trans people while the other isn't doing those things. No amount of reasoning skills, common sense, or empathy makes fascism a worthy ideology.
TLDR: Shut the fuck up.

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JimmyFraska
05/21/22 1:06:05 AM
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Victim #1, right in post 2. Well done TC.
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LinkFanatic
05/21/22 1:32:04 AM
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SwayM posted...
People get triggered by both sides because they dont have the reasoning skills, common sense, or empathy to understand all positions involved.

lol

This implies all opinions are equal, and that's legitimately untrue. Part of the problem in this country is assuming that very thing.

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