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TheVipaGTS 05/12/22 2:31:05 PM #1:	https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2022/05/12/young-thug-lyrics-indictment-jackson-newsroom-vpx.cnn I recall something like this coming up in that topic of the woman who wrote a book about killing her husband and then actually killed her husband. The book wasnt being used against her despite it almost mimicking the actual murder. Yet here we have lyrics being used against someone. Is that not pretty close to the same thing? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:964983438] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2022/05/12/young-thug-lyrics-indictment-jackson-newsroom-vpx.cnn I recall something like this coming up in that topic of the woman who wrote a book about killing her husband and then actually killed her husband. The book wasnt being used against her despite it almost mimicking the actual murder. Yet here we have lyrics being used against someone. Is that not pretty close to the same thing? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 05/12/22 2:32:20 PM #2:	Seems pretty easy to argue against in court tbqh. Song lyrics are not statements of fact --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:964983473] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Seems pretty easy to argue against in court tbqh. Song lyrics are not statements of fact </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 05/12/22 2:33:34 PM #4:	eston posted... Seems pretty easy to argue against in court tbqh. Song lyrics are not statements of fact I feel like we even have precedent regarding this. From other rappers, even. I haven't looked at this case at all but it's definitely happened before. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:964983503] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>eston posted... </cite> <quote>Seems pretty easy to argue against in court tbqh. Song lyrics are not statements of fact</quote>I feel like we even have precedent regarding this. From other rappers, even. I haven't looked at this case at all but it's definitely happened before. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/12/22 2:34:31 PM #5:	...is that Key & Peele skit still a no-no for the mods? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:964983529] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>...is that Key & Peele skit still a no-no for the mods? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 05/12/22 2:37:23 PM #7:	https://youtu.be/vKvt27nmHd8 --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:964983615] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/vKvt27nmHd8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/12/22 2:38:21 PM #8:	TheVipaGTS posted... https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2022/05/12/young-thug-lyrics-indictment-jackson-newsroom-vpx.cnn I recall something like this coming up in that topic of the woman who wrote a book about killing her husband and then actually killed her husband. The book wasnt being used against her despite it almost mimicking the actual murder. Yet here we have lyrics being used against someone. Is that not pretty close to the same thing? The difference is he's Black so the legal system doesn't give him the privilege of authorial distance from his work. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:964983638] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>TheVipaGTS posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2022/05/12/young-thug-lyrics-indictment-jackson-newsroom-vpx.cnn I recall something like this coming up in that topic of the woman who wrote a book about killing her husband and then actually killed her husband. The book wasnt being used against her despite it almost mimicking the actual murder. Yet here we have lyrics being used against someone. Is that not pretty close to the same thing?</quote>The difference is he's Black so the legal system doesn't give him the privilege of authorial distance from his work. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 05/12/22 2:39:00 PM #9:	https://youtu.be/JR0XgbMqjv8 --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:964983653] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/JR0XgbMqjv8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 05/12/22 2:39:28 PM #10:	Its that old MF DOM line. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:964983667] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Its that old MF DOM line. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HovaRex 05/12/22 2:40:34 PM #11:	Pfft nobody can understand a word Young Thug says anyway. They must've used transcripts. --- I come back to you now, at the turn of the tide. <cite>HovaRex posted [p:964983689] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Pfft nobody can understand a word Young Thug says anyway. They must've used transcripts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jabodie 05/12/22 2:43:17 PM #13:	eston posted... Seems pretty easy to argue against in court tbqh. Song lyrics are not statements of fact Lately I've been looking into drill music, and I've picked up on the fact that song lyrics and music videos are often helpful for solidifying associations to gangs for RICO charges. Lyrics alone are not enough to convict anybody, but once there's enough other evidence to make a federal indictment, they do contribute to the case. These music videos, songs, and social media posts are often helpful to investigators as well, since they basically let them know who is likely responsible and who to investigate. Then it's just gathering evidence. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:964983755] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>eston posted... </cite> <quote>Seems pretty easy to argue against in court tbqh. Song lyrics are not statements of fact</quote>Lately I've been looking into drill music, and I've picked up on the fact that song lyrics and music videos are often helpful for solidifying associations to gangs for RICO charges. Lyrics alone are not enough to convict anybody, but once there's enough other evidence to make a federal indictment, they do contribute to the case. These music videos, songs, and social media posts are often helpful to investigators as well, since they basically let them know who is likely responsible and who to investigate. Then it's just gathering evidence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMogALT 05/12/22 2:44:14 PM #14:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Should be protectes speech, generally. There's a couple lawyers on youtube who have covered the topic before. It's usually very hard to use lyrics against an artist. --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png <cite>ChocoboMogALT posted [p:964983779] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Should be protectes speech, generally. There's a couple lawyers on youtube who have covered the topic before. It's usually very hard to use lyrics against an artist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkprince35 05/12/22 2:44:24 PM #15:	Didnt Bobby shmurda and tekashi both get caught up cuz of their song lyrics? <cite>Darkprince35 posted [p:964983786] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Didnt Bobby shmurda and tekashi both get caught up cuz of their song lyrics? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/12/22 2:48:26 PM #16:	Shmurda named his people by actual name in Hot ***I dunno if it was used in court as evidence but I think they used it to piece shit together. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:964983914] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Shmurda named his people by actual name in Hot ***I dunno if it was used in court as evidence but I think they used it to piece shit together. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joeydollaz 05/12/22 2:49:07 PM #17:	Remember, to the mainstream world he is a funny guy in a dress off camera he is a real thugsta person https://youtu.be/Kstom-B5ZP0?t=1 --- PERSONA 6 will NOT be Turn Based, Feb-25th 2021 <cite>Joeydollaz posted [p:964983930] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Remember, to the mainstream world he is a funny guy in a dress off camera he is a real thugsta person https://youtu.be/Kstom-B5ZP0?t=1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 05/12/22 3:01:05 PM #18:	Just last month, NY arrested over 20 people they tracked down through drill rap videos. Other examples include the federal indictment of OTF/O Block members for the murder of FBG Duck, and the arrest of Ksoo for a murder I don't remember the details of. It's also worth noting that federal prosecutors have a very high conviction rate. When a federal indictment comes around, odds are very high they did what they were accused of. And odds are also very high that they the feds can prove it. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/9/AAQ6H1AADOaJ.png --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:964984246] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Just last month, NY arrested over 20 people they tracked down through drill rap videos. Other examples include the federal indictment of OTF/O Block members for the murder of FBG Duck, and the arrest of Ksoo for a murder I don't remember the details of. It's also worth noting that federal prosecutors have a very high conviction rate. When a federal indictment comes around, odds are very high they did what they were accused of. And odds are also very high that they the feds can prove it. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/9/AAQ6H1AADOaJ.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 05/12/22 3:02:02 PM #19:	https://youtu.be/gQtKJbptcns --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:964984272] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/gQtKJbptcns </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
carpediempimp 05/12/22 3:03:55 PM #20:	TheVipaGTS posted... Shmurda named his people by actual name in Hot ***I dunno if it was used in court as evidence but I think they used it to piece shit together. they police already new, they just used it as confirmation --- Just do it <cite>carpediempimp posted [p:964984319] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>TheVipaGTS posted... </cite> <quote>Shmurda named his people by actual name in Hot ***I dunno if it was used in court as evidence but I think they used it to piece shit together.</quote> they police already new, they just used it as confirmation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 05/12/22 3:05:45 PM #21:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WE3A0PwVs --- https://i.imgur.com/Y5Tq1gV.gif https://i.imgur.com/sgLkVQU.gif Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:964984364] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WE3A0PwVs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/12/22 3:48:30 PM #22:	Jabodie posted... Just last month, NY arrested over 20 people they tracked down through drill rap videos. Other examples include the federal indictment of OTF/O Block members for the murder of FBG Duck, and the arrest of Ksoo for a murder I don't remember the details of. It's also worth noting that federal prosecutors have a very high conviction rate. When a federal indictment comes around, odds are very high they did what they were accused of. And odds are also very high that they the feds can prove it. That's extrapolating, it could be that federal prosecutors have more favorable jury selection. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:964985390] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Jabodie posted... </cite> <quote>Just last month, NY arrested over 20 people they tracked down through drill rap videos. Other examples include the federal indictment of OTF/O Block members for the murder of FBG Duck, and the arrest of Ksoo for a murder I don't remember the details of. It's also worth noting that federal prosecutors have a very high conviction rate. When a federal indictment comes around, odds are very high they did what they were accused of. And odds are also very high that they the feds can prove it.</quote>That's extrapolating, it could be that federal prosecutors have more favorable jury selection. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 05/12/22 3:52:08 PM #23:	Did he shoot Darnell with a long-ass gun and throw it in the aquarium? --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:964985473] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Did he shoot Darnell with a long-ass gun and throw it in the aquarium? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 05/12/22 3:53:30 PM #24:	https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFfGgeddAc4 I'm still shocked that this song hasn't gotten anyone arrested. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:964985500] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFfGgeddAc4 I'm still shocked that this song hasn't gotten anyone arrested. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yemmy 05/12/22 3:54:53 PM #25:	L-E-A-N-I-N-G Lean, lean, lean, lean, lean, lean, lean Five-hundred horses inside my machine Five-hundred DNAs in my ding ding --- p226 <cite>yemmy posted [p:964985525] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>L-E-A-N-I-N-G Lean, lean, lean, lean, lean, lean, lean Five-hundred horses inside my machine Five-hundred DNAs in my ding ding </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 05/12/22 3:56:11 PM #26:	I remember when Michelle Branch tried to do the "you're only criticizing the song because they're black!" thing Like, no MB, it was criticized for perpetuating actual real-world violence, they literally named names --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:964985555] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>I remember when Michelle Branch tried to do the "you're only criticizing the song because they're black!" thing Like, no MB, it was criticized for perpetuating actual real-world violence, they literally named names </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 05/12/22 4:05:53 PM #27:	Killing Darnell I killed Darnell, yeah I shot him with my nine I shot him nine times, 9PM on the dime And by the way it was November ninth I got an alibi, birthday Red Lobster When in reality, I shot Darnell like a mobster Its a lie, anyone could tell this If you know about my allergy to all shellfish Shot up Darnell with a long-ass gun And then tossed it into the aquarium Stroke my chin real slow when Im lyin And I was laughing super hard as Darnell was dyin --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:964985813] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Killing Darnell I killed Darnell, yeah I shot him with my nine I shot him nine times, 9PM on the dime And by the way it was November ninth I got an alibi, birthday Red Lobster When in reality, I shot Darnell like a mobster Its a lie, anyone could tell this If you know about my allergy to all shellfish Shot up Darnell with a long-ass gun And then tossed it into the aquarium Stroke my chin real slow when Im lyin And I was laughing super hard as Darnell was dyin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cokewave 05/12/22 4:10:09 PM #28:	Heavy_D_Forever posted... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFfGgeddAc4 I'm still shocked that this song hasn't gotten anyone arrested. Because they're clout chasing bodies they didnt catch themselves --- Wave. PSN: WaveyyyA <cite>Cokewave posted [p:964985926] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Heavy_D_Forever posted... </cite> <quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFfGgeddAc4 I'm still shocked that this song hasn't gotten anyone arrested.</quote>Because they're clout chasing bodies they didnt catch themselves </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 05/12/22 4:11:10 PM #29:	Watch the shit you say, the feds be listenin' to the music And they gon' take your lyrics and build a case and try to use it Gucci Mane --- Gray/Grey <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:964985955] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote><quote>Watch the shit you say, the feds be listenin' to the music And they gon' take your lyrics and build a case and try to use it</quote> Gucci Mane </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 05/12/22 4:13:23 PM #31:	Cokewave posted... Because they're clout chasing bodies they didnt catch themselves I watched a YouTube deep dive into the Jacksonville rap scene and it seemed like gang beef. I won't speculate on who exactly pulled a trigger, but all of these guys are involved in the gang shit. I'm sure the cops are aware of everything in this song, but don't have enough physical evidence to bring it to trial. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:964986004] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Cokewave posted... </cite> <quote>Because they're clout chasing bodies they didnt catch themselves</quote>I watched a YouTube deep dive into the Jacksonville rap scene and it seemed like gang beef. I won't speculate on who exactly pulled a trigger, but all of these guys are involved in the gang shit. I'm sure the cops are aware of everything in this song, but don't have enough physical evidence to bring it to trial. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 05/12/22 4:18:37 PM #32:	eston posted... Seems pretty easy to argue against in court tbqh. Song lyrics are not statements of fact So Tupac never fucked Biggie's wife? Everything I know is a lie --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:964986133] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>eston posted... </cite> <quote>Seems pretty easy to argue against in court tbqh. Song lyrics are not statements of fact</quote> So Tupac never fucked Biggie's wife? Everything I know is a lie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 05/12/22 4:22:16 PM #33:	A literal lie detector test isnt even admissible in (U.S) courtbut a song lyric is ok? Our system is wack --- Gray/Grey <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:964986231] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>A literal lie detector test isnt even admissible in (U.S) courtbut a song lyric is ok? Our system is wack </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 05/12/22 4:25:07 PM #34:	Doe posted... That's extrapolating, it could be that federal prosecutors have more favorable jury selection. That's really just what I hear from Internet criminal lawyers. The feds get to pick and choose their cases, and once they do they essentially get unlimited funds to investigate. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:964986303] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>That's extrapolating, it could be that federal prosecutors have more favorable jury selection.</quote>That's really just what I hear from Internet criminal lawyers. The feds get to pick and choose their cases, and once they do they essentially get unlimited funds to investigate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 05/12/22 4:26:29 PM #36:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WE3A0PwVs <cite>Axiom posted [p:964986353] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WE3A0PwVs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 05/12/22 4:31:58 PM #37:	Is this the lawyer dog guy? --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 <cite>Flauros posted [p:964986517] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Is this the lawyer dog guy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flockaveli 05/12/22 6:00:31 PM #38:	https://youtu.be/FH692h5_TGU --- The Handsomest Man in O-Town. <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:964988742] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/FH692h5_TGU </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/12/22 8:09:45 PM #39:	Flockaveli posted... https://youtu.be/FH692h5_TGU 0_0 --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:964991640] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>Flockaveli posted... </cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/FH692h5_TGU</quote>0_0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 05/12/22 8:51:12 PM #40:	my understanding is theyve been building this case for years theyre not charging him with things based solely on his lyrics, and the song lyrics arent the only evidence they have. but if the things he said on social media or in his lyrics corroborate things hes being charged with, why shouldnt it be admissible? they found a shitload of guns and drugs (allegedly) when they raided his housedoes anyone really believe hes not guilty of a bunch of shit? --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:964992494] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>my understanding is theyve been building this case for years theyre not charging him with things based solely on his lyrics, and the song lyrics arent the only evidence they have. but if the things he said on social media or in his lyrics corroborate things hes being charged with, why shouldnt it be admissible? they found a shitload of guns and drugs (allegedly) when they raided his housedoes anyone really believe hes not guilty of a bunch of shit? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/12/22 8:52:03 PM #41:	SSJPurple posted... A literal lie detector test isnt even admissible in (U.S) courtbut a song lyric is ok? Our system is wack Probably because "lie detectors" are pretty much quackery. --- There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:964992514] in Young Thug... [t:80018522]...</cite> <quote>SSJPurple posted... </cite> <quote>A literal lie detector test isnt even admissible in (U.S) courtbut a song lyric is ok? Our system is wack</quote>Probably because "lie detectors" are pretty much quackery. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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