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Antifar
05/11/22 7:30:05 AM
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https://www.hellgatenyc.com/grandmother-arrested-filming-police/
Patricia Rodney walked into the 62nd Precinct in Dyker Heights on December 2, 2020 because she had lost her glucose monitor. Rodney knew how important the instrument was to her survival. A diabetic, she had been hospitalized multiple times for complications related to her diabetes, and used the device to check her blood sugar levels many times a day.

The insurance company said, the only way you will get a replacement is to get this report from the police department, the 61-year-old grandmother of three recalled. Rodney, who serves food in a school cafeteria, had never had much cause to have interactions with the police, but she had gone down to the precinct a few days earlier to lodge her lost-property report. To her dismay, the officer who took her information told her he couldnt give her the papers she needed immediately; shed have to come back to the station house in a few days to pick them up. Rodney would have to wait a little longer for her medical device.

But when Rodney returned on December 2, a new officer was behind the desk, and she told Rodney that she couldnt get her police report. The precinct doesnt issue stolen property reports, the officer said. To get one of those, Rodney would have to go to NYPD headquarters at One Police Plaza in Manhattan.

Rodney was at the end of her rope: Shed already been told she could get the report here. Now she was getting the runaround. She dug in, telling the officer shed been told to come back and get the report, and she wasnt leaving the stationhouse until she got it.

The account up until now is Rodneys, as told in an interview with Hell Gate and in a federal civil complaint. What happened next is documented in the body-worn-camera footage of two officers on duty at the 62nd Precinct that night. When the footage picks up, Rodney is in the vestibule of the precinct house, surrounded by police. When the sound on the video kicks in (NYPD body cameras only begin recording sound when activated, but append the previous 60 seconds of visuals from the cameras buffer memory), an officer is warning Rodney that Body cameras are now on.

This is my camera, Rodney replies, holding her cell phone. Im allowed to film.

Rodney wasnt actually filming, she told Hell Gate. But they were getting very hostile, and they were telling me that they were filming me, so I held my phone up and said, Okay, Im filming you.

This appears to have been too much for the police surrounding Rodney in the vestibule. As luck would have it, she was standing directly in front of a sign that read Members of the public are prohibited from audio/video recording or photography inside the facility.

Were asking you to leave, youre not leaving, and youre not allowed to record, an officer says in the video. Turn around. With that, half a dozen cops close in around Rodney, and in short order, she is on the ground, screaming, as officers twist her arms.

It felt like they were breaking my arm, Rodney said. And yes, it turns out they did. A medical report confirms that Rodney suffered a fractured elbow.

Im not playing with you! the officer bellows as he works to get Rodney into handcuffs and leg shackles.

Im a diabetic, Rodney sobs. I just need a piece of paper.

Now youre going to jail, the officer replies. As Rodney is brought to her feet and frog-marched out of the vestibule and into the precinct house, the officer, who, like other police surrounding Rodney, is not wearing a mask himself, grabs her mask from her mouth and pulls it up over her eyes so she cant see. Put your mask up, he says. All you had to do was cooperate. You did this to yourself.

The police took Rodney to a hospital to treat the injuries she suffered during her arrest, leaving her handcuffed throughout. Then they brought her back to the precinct house for several hours before sending her on to Brooklyn Central Booking, where she was charged, based on a sworn statement from an NYPD officer, with resisting arrest, obstructing governmental administration, disorderly conduct, and criminal trespass.

Rodney was arraigned before a judge, where prosecutors offered her an adjournment in contemplation of dismissalif she stayed out of trouble, all the charges would be dropped. Rodney took the deal, and the charges were dismissed.

Rodneys experience yielded disturbing video and a concerning narrative, but the lawsuit she filed afterwards also raises important questions about the right of New Yorkers to film the police.

In 2020, the City Council adopted the Right to Record Act, which codifies New Yorkers entitlement to film police in the course of their duties. A person may record police activities, the law declares, so long as the act of recording doesnt physically interfere with police operations.

But there is city ordinance enacted by City Council, and then there is NYPD policy, set by police leadership. The two do not match up.

In 2018, the NYPD instituted its policy directing officers to arrest people who wont stop recording inside of precinct houses. The policy was put into place after a man filmed himself taunting officers inside the 28th precinct house in Harlem and posted the video to Instagram. The NYPD doesnt appear to have made any effort to square this policy with the city ordinance.

Rodneys lawsuit also argues that the NYPD policy violates the First Amendment because it fails to distinguish a specific time, place, and manner in which otherwise protected activities can be reasonably restricted. As Rodneys case showed, the policy isnt just being used to prevent people from recording secret police information behind the desk (a behavior that would already be arrestable without the policy), nor is it narrowly targeted to prevent disruptive behaviorRodneys suspected filming does not appear to have been disruptive.

By extending its recording ban not only to all of the publicly accessible parts of the precinct house, but even to the precinct vestibule, Rodneys suit contends, all the NYPD policy accomplishes is to restrict recording of things that can freely be seen by members of the public.

While several other federal circuits have established that the right to record police is clearly established, and that officers cant claim they werent aware of it when claiming qualified immunity from lawsuits, the Second Circuit, which contains New York, has not addressed the question. If it does take it up, it will likely be guided by the fact that, following a lawsuit brought by the Legal Aid Society of New York, the NYPD was compelled to adopt training and policies instructing officers that the public have the right to record them in the course of their official duties and cant be arrested for doing so. Mayor Eric Adams made headlines in March when he suggested that members of the public filming of the police had gotten out of control.



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Zikten
05/11/22 7:34:41 AM
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Disgusting. She needed that paperwork to get something she might die without. And they attack her

Cops in America are completely out of control
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Umbreon
05/11/22 7:38:59 AM
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Okay thank God they didn't shoot her.

Still, fucked up how they treated an old lady who was just looking for help to not die.

Brave men ganging up on a diabetic granny


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NinjaWarrior455
05/11/22 7:40:41 AM
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Completely normal

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Deutschenlied
05/11/22 7:44:07 AM
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Imagine if a bunch of retail employees surrounded and started harassing an upset customer.
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InTheEyesOfFire
05/11/22 7:44:40 AM
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Where are the bootlickers that are gonna say they were in fear of their lives?

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Jetblackmoon
05/11/22 7:46:01 AM
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I thought this was going to be a nice story based off the title.

I was wrong. This is horrible.

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Devilanse333
05/11/22 7:54:17 AM
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InTheEyesOfFire posted...
Where are the bootlickers that are gonna say they were in fear of their lives?

Why is that needed? Wouldnt it better if rational users discussed this topic instead of begging a troll to come here for a dogpile derail?

Sad that I knew this story would get to elderly woman pinned to ground by cops by the first sentence of 2nd paragraph.

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InTheEyesOfFire
05/11/22 7:56:19 AM
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Devilanse333 posted...
Why is that needed? Wouldnt it better if rational users discussed this topic instead of begging a troll to come here for a dogpile derail?

Sad that I knew this story would get to elderly woman pinned to ground by cops by the first sentence of 2nd paragraph.

Oh Im not begging at all, just surprised. They seem to jump on these like flies.

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DrizztLink
05/11/22 7:56:27 AM
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Jetblackmoon posted...
I thought this was going to be a nice story based off the title.

I was wrong. This is horrible.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/9/AABUaRAADOF_.jpg

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Umbreon
05/11/22 8:06:20 AM
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DrizztLink posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/9/AABUaRAADOF_.jpg

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Please tell me this is a joke.

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El Marsh
05/11/22 8:08:53 AM
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Jetblackmoon posted...
I thought this was going to be a nice story based off the title.

I was wrong. This is horrible.
Does anyone actually post nice things on this board?

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eston
05/11/22 8:22:56 AM
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In 2018, the NYPD instituted its policy directing officers to arrest people who wont stop recording inside of precinct houses. The policy was put into place after a man filmed himself taunting officers inside the 28th precinct house in Harlem and posted the video to Instagram.
Softest gang in America, smh

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Tom Clark
05/11/22 8:25:22 AM
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Fucking reprehensible.

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DarkRoast
05/11/22 8:30:54 AM
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/ReliOn-Premier-CLASSIC-Blood-Glucose-Monitoring-System/552134103

For those that need help with either themselves or someone else who can't afford a glucometer, there's a few at Walmart that sell an entire system, including test trips, for $10. For some reason very few people know about it, but I highly recommend it for people who are having issues getting insurance or other things to cover it.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/11/22 8:34:58 AM
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Umbreon posted...
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Please tell me this is a joke.
It might be a joke for this actual image but I would not at all be surprised if someone did not make it a real event.

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Tenlaar
05/11/22 8:37:55 AM
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No reason for the cops to get that physical with an old woman who was justtrying to commit light insurance fraud?
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uwnim
05/11/22 8:38:37 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with them

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/11/22 8:40:52 AM
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Police in NYC give no fucks about if you are a woman, child, or old person you will get your ass beat and you will be abused same as a man.

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Null_Gain
05/11/22 8:41:07 AM
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Maybe she forgot to bribe the desk officer before making a request

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/11/22 8:42:34 AM
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Null_Gain posted...
Maybe she forgot to bribe the desk officer before making a request
I do not think that even works anymore, unless you are a known rich person.

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TheGoldenEel
05/11/22 8:59:23 AM
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Jetblackmoon posted...
I thought this was going to be a nice story based off the title.

I was wrong. This is horrible.
You must have missed the NYPD in the title

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YugiNoob
05/11/22 9:02:14 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
You must have missed the NYPD in the title
This^

When was the last time you saw a positive topic about cops here?

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Unsuprised_Pika
05/11/22 10:47:39 AM
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Zikten posted...
Disgusting. She needed that paperwork to get something she might die without. And they attack her

Cops in America are completely out of control

The officers involved should be in prison for life unironically.
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