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Poorly 05/06/22 10:51:21 PM #52:	NeonOctopus posted... I need to go over to Japan and solve their birthrate problem U think u can fix a dying nation? --- <cite>Poorly posted [p:964848527] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>NeonOctopus posted... </cite> <quote>I need to go over to Japan and solve their birthrate problem</quote>U think u can fix a dying nation? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nexigrams 05/06/22 10:52:37 PM #53:	The further we evolve, the more we realize how insane it is to subject another human being to the immense pain and suffering that is life. And few countries are more advanced than Japan, though I'm pretty sure declining population is a problem in those countries too. People just wanna chill and watch anime or play video games. All the sacrifice marriage and a family requires just doesn't seem that worth it anymore, especially considering what you are giving up to do so. This may even be the "Great Filter" astrophysicists speak of. Technology just advances to a point where everyone can strap themselves into a pleasure chair that just keeps you alive, happy, and endlessly engaged. Nobody bothers looking outward into space, and why would you? --- http://imgur.com/SYiqIRC <cite>nexigrams posted [p:964848561] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>The further we evolve, the more we realize how insane it is to subject another human being to the immense pain and suffering that is life. And few countries are more advanced than Japan, though I'm pretty sure declining population is a problem in those countries too. People just wanna chill and watch anime or play video games. All the sacrifice marriage and a family requires just doesn't seem that worth it anymore, especially considering what you are giving up to do so. This may even be the "Great Filter" astrophysicists speak of. Technology just advances to a point where everyone can strap themselves into a pleasure chair that just keeps you alive, happy, and endlessly engaged. Nobody bothers looking outward into space, and why would you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsuprised_Pika 05/06/22 10:59:14 PM #55:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] The only short term solution is immigration(ideally paired with shorter working hours and such) Mid-long term they need serious buisness, cultural and governmental overhauls to keep the population steady or growing especially if they want to keep immigration minimal as they have been doing. <cite>Unsuprised_Pika posted [p:964848682] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> The only short term solution is immigration(ideally paired with shorter working hours and such) Mid-long term they need serious buisness, cultural and governmental overhauls to keep the population steady or growing especially if they want to keep immigration minimal as they have been doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snip-N-Snails 05/06/22 11:10:04 PM #56:	It's always amusing seeing the people trying to bring up birth rates when western countries are the absolute lowest in birth rates. They're made up by immigration and Japan's problem is how hard it is to immigrate there, both due to location and immigration policies. --- #BLM <cite>Snip-N-Snails posted [p:964848846] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>It's always amusing seeing the people trying to bring up birth rates when western countries are the absolute lowest in birth rates. They're made up by immigration and Japan's problem is how hard it is to immigrate there, both due to location and immigration policies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 05/07/22 12:24:49 AM #57:	I wonder what they could realistically do to enable and encourage their young adults to pursue a traditional family structure and have more kids. Seems like it would require a multi-generational shift in the way they approach work culture. <cite>Esrac posted [p:964850039] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>I wonder what they could realistically do to enable and encourage their young adults to pursue a traditional family structure and have more kids. Seems like it would require a multi-generational shift in the way they approach work culture. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiganeer 05/07/22 12:44:22 AM #58:	other human beings lose their appeal when you get home after a 16-hour work day and put on your VR goggles to live in an isekai surrounded by catgirls you did your best, abe. shame it wasn't enough <cite>Kaiganeer posted [p:964850325] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>other human beings lose their appeal when you get home after a 16-hour work day and put on your VR goggles to live in an isekai surrounded by catgirls you did your best, abe. shame it wasn't enough </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExtremeLuchador 05/07/22 12:58:42 AM #59:	A lot of people just don't want to grow up and get their lives together. People respect you a ton more when you have a spouse and/or kids. You'll have a better shot at jobs, housing etc. --- "It was horrible," guard Jeff McInnis said. "I took 100 naps and we were still in the air." <cite>ExtremeLuchador posted [p:964850490] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>A lot of people just don't want to grow up and get their lives together. People respect you a ton more when you have a spouse and/or kids. You'll have a better shot at jobs, housing etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 05/07/22 1:02:47 AM #60:	Trumpo posted... Japan needs to change how they treat outsiders No, they really dont. For the most part, they seem to really like their culture as is. Not every place in the world has to mimic the US or Germany in its policies, even if Japan likes certain Western imports. Besides, theyre trying to roboticize as much as possible anyway. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:964850528] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Trumpo posted... </cite> <quote>Japan needs to change how they treat outsiders</quote> No, they really dont. For the most part, they seem to really like their culture as is. Not every place in the world has to mimic the US or Germany in its policies, even if Japan likes certain Western imports. Besides, theyre trying to roboticize as much as possible anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 05/07/22 1:05:58 AM #61:	NeonOctopus posted... I need to go over to Japan and solve their birthrate problem It's getting too expensive to live there, especially the city. I think that's the main problem. Japanese people (white collar office jobs) work a lot of hours too. I actually feel like anime (lewd ones) is trying to get people to have sex more, but who knows... NeonOctopus posted... unironically anime, terrible work culture, and maybe a high rate of NEET-ism? I LOVE anime, but it's probably used for escapism way too much by the population there >_> --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:964850561] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>NeonOctopus posted... </cite> <quote>I need to go over to Japan and solve their birthrate problem</quote>It's getting too expensive to live there, especially the city. I think that's the main problem. Japanese people (white collar office jobs) work a lot of hours too. I actually feel like anime (lewd ones) is trying to get people to have sex more, but who knows... NeonOctopus posted... </cite> <quote>unironically anime, terrible work culture, and maybe a high rate of NEET-ism? I LOVE anime, but it's probably used for escapism way too much by the population there >_></quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExtremeLuchador 05/07/22 1:11:52 AM #62:	In Japan most salary jobs work you 12 hour days with only Sunday off. --- "It was horrible," guard Jeff McInnis said. "I took 100 naps and we were still in the air." <cite>ExtremeLuchador posted [p:964850626] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>In Japan most salary jobs work you 12 hour days with only Sunday off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 05/07/22 3:30:14 AM #63:	Arcanine2009 posted... I actually feel like anime (lewd ones) is trying to get people to have sex more, but who knows... These things really only build up unhealthy ideas about sex. It's definitely contributing to the celibate atmosphere. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:964851924] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Arcanine2009 posted... </cite> <quote>I actually feel like anime (lewd ones) is trying to get people to have sex more, but who knows...</quote> These things really only build up unhealthy ideas about sex. It's definitely contributing to the celibate atmosphere. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 05/07/22 9:25:22 AM #64:	Abe, hear me out. I'm willing put in the hard work and sacrifice needed to help stabilize and grow Japan's population. Send me over there and I will work tirelessly day and night to help your country out! I only ask that you build a statue in my image after I add the first 3 million to your population. Thank you. Sincerely, Neon "Titty Meister" Octopus --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif https://i.imgur.com/2aof3ao.jpg <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:964854795] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Abe, hear me out. I'm willing put in the hard work and sacrifice needed to help stabilize and grow Japan's population. Send me over there and I will work tirelessly day and night to help your country out! I only ask that you build a statue in my image after I add the first 3 million to your population. Thank you. Sincerely, Neon "Titty Meister" Octopus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 05/07/22 9:35:16 AM #65:	I feel like this obsession with population has to always go up is weird. --- How quaint. <cite>C_Pain posted [p:964854932] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>I feel like this obsession with population has to always go up is weird. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liu_Kano 05/07/22 9:37:40 AM #66:	Tyranthraxus posted... These things really only build up unhealthy ideas about sex. It's definitely contributing to the celibate atmosphere. Don't * inside me onii-chaaaaaaan!!! <cite>Liu_Kano posted [p:964854967] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>These things really only build up unhealthy ideas about sex. It's definitely contributing to the celibate atmosphere.</quote>Don't * inside me onii-chaaaaaaan!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 05/07/22 9:39:11 AM #67:	While the degree varies this has been a problem for most developed nations the past few decades. With no real solution, or at least ones people are willing to consider that will work. Amd while this will fuck us over over inevitably Japan will likely be the first at this rate. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:964854988] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>While the degree varies this has been a problem for most developed nations the past few decades. With no real solution, or at least ones people are willing to consider that will work. Amd while this will fuck us over over inevitably Japan will likely be the first at this rate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 05/07/22 9:47:47 AM #68:	ScazarMeltex posted... It should be noted that the reason people aren't having kids is because they don't have time to date or have relationships because the work culture there is completely fucked. It's so shitty that it makes the American work/life balance seem reasonable. Americans literally work more hours on average: https://data.oecd.org/emp/hours-worked.htm Japan is about avergae for a developed country in terms of working hours. The suicide rate is also lower than America despite yet another stereotype. The birth rate is pretty comparable to other developed countries and the highest in East Asia (much higher than Korea and Taiwan, slightly higher than China). Japan has a positive immigration rate (more people entering than leaving, unlike say China which has a negative immigration rate). The main issue this last year is many immigrants cannot arrive. I had a bunch of people waiting to come to the laboratory I work at. The restrictions made it very hard for everyone. Things will get better this year with fewer restrictions. That said the population will continue to decrease because the immigration rate isn't enough to counteract the below replacement birth rate. The government continues gradually improving the immigration situation but they can't even come close to meeting their own quotas. If they actually want to meet the immigrant numbers they're setting it's going to require major incentives. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:964855104] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>It should be noted that the reason people aren't having kids is because they don't have time to date or have relationships because the work culture there is completely fucked. It's so shitty that it makes the American work/life balance seem reasonable.</quote> Americans literally work more hours on average: https://data.oecd.org/emp/hours-worked.htm Japan is about avergae for a developed country in terms of working hours. The suicide rate is also lower than America despite yet another stereotype. The birth rate is pretty comparable to other developed countries and the highest in East Asia (much higher than Korea and Taiwan, slightly higher than China). Japan has a positive immigration rate (more people entering than leaving, unlike say China which has a negative immigration rate). The main issue this last year is many immigrants cannot arrive. I had a bunch of people waiting to come to the laboratory I work at. The restrictions made it very hard for everyone. Things will get better this year with fewer restrictions. That said the population will continue to decrease because the immigration rate isn't enough to counteract the below replacement birth rate. The government continues gradually improving the immigration situation but they can't even come close to meeting their own quotas. If they actually want to meet the immigrant numbers they're setting it's going to require major incentives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 05/07/22 9:47:55 AM #69:	If you want people to ** consider a 32 hour work week. With 3 days off from work people will likely by that third day. :P The population of the world is already high enough that there's no reason to work 40-80 hours week, other than to funnel more cash into the pockets of executives and shareholders. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:964855106] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>If you want people to consider a 32 hour work week. With 3 days off from work people will likely ** by that third day. :P The population of the world is already high enough that there's no reason to work 40-80 hours week, other than to funnel more cash into the pockets of executives and shareholders. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 05/07/22 9:49:31 AM #70:	i'd live over there for a while if their work culture wasnt incredibly toxic, and if their culture in general wasnt xenophobic <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:964855131] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>i'd live over there for a while if their work culture wasnt incredibly toxic, and if their culture in general wasnt xenophobic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 05/07/22 9:53:25 AM #71:	DuneMan posted... If you want people to ** consider a 32 hour work week. With 3 days off from work people will likely by that third day. :P The population of the world is already high enough that there's no reason to work 40-80 hours week, other than to funnel more cash into the pockets of executives and shareholders. Some companies are doing a 4 day work week now. You also get paid by the government to have kids and get up to two years parental leave. It doesn't matter though because those things have little to do with birth rates despite popular sentiment. The wealthier, more educated, etc. you are, the less likely you are to have children. This is true both across and within countries. The poorest countries with the worst working conditions have the highest birth rates on average. And within a country the working class has a higher birth rate on average. Japan's birth rate decreased as they got richer and got better working conditions. It was highest when they were poor, with terrible working conditions (Japan used to be a factory for making other countries goods after WWII with terrible pollution, including infamous mass mercury poisoning, it wasn't like modern Japan at all). --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:964855176] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>DuneMan posted... </cite> <quote>If you want people to consider a 32 hour work week. With 3 days off from work people will likely ** by that third day. :P The population of the world is already high enough that there's no reason to work 40-80 hours week, other than to funnel more cash into the pockets of executives and shareholders.</quote> Some companies are doing a 4 day work week now. You also get paid by the government to have kids and get up to two years parental leave. It doesn't matter though because those things have little to do with birth rates despite popular sentiment. The wealthier, more educated, etc. you are, the less likely you are to have children. This is true both across and within countries. The poorest countries with the worst working conditions have the highest birth rates on average. And within a country the working class has a higher birth rate on average. Japan's birth rate decreased as they got richer and got better working conditions. It was highest when they were poor, with terrible working conditions (Japan used to be a factory for making other countries goods after WWII with terrible pollution, including infamous mass mercury poisoning, it wasn't like modern Japan at all). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 05/07/22 9:55:49 AM #72:	Birth rate has actually been pretty flat for the past 20 years. It started to fall dramatically in the 70s to 2000 and just kind of stayed there. --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:964855199] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Birth rate has actually been pretty flat for the past 20 years. It started to fall dramatically in the 70s to 2000 and just kind of stayed there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 05/07/22 10:03:12 AM #73:	Arcanine2009 posted... It's getting too expensive to live there, especially the city. I think that's the main problem. Japanese people (white collar office jobs) work a lot of hours too. I actually feel like anime (lewd ones) is trying to get people to have sex more, but who knows... Not really, isekai isn't really get people to have sex more in fact it's causing the opposite, not to mention the quality of isekai is beyond going down the gutter. Also, there's a resurgence of romance anime and romcoms though, and maybe that is due to the low birthrates, although I don't think it will be very effective in increasing birthrates. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:964855310] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Arcanine2009 posted...</cite> <quote> It's getting too expensive to live there, especially the city. I think that's the main problem. Japanese people (white collar office jobs) work a lot of hours too. I actually feel like anime (lewd ones) is trying to get people to have sex more, but who knows... </quote> Not really, isekai isn't really get people to have sex more in fact it's causing the opposite, not to mention the quality of isekai is beyond going down the gutter. Also, there's a resurgence of romance anime and romcoms though, and maybe that is due to the low birthrates, although I don't think it will be very effective in increasing birthrates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 05/07/22 11:16:21 AM #75:	ssjevot posted... Americans literally work more hours on average: https://data.oecd.org/emp/hours-worked.htm Japan is about avergae for a developed country in terms of working hours. Despite the data I always found it hard to believe Japan can posses such a highly ranked and growing economy/gdp, quality of goods, cleanliness, attention to detail, maintenance and custermer service on the lv that it does. While somehow working less hour's then Americans do with more leave/time off. Yet despite the above they still somehow do not have time or energy enough to ever feel like dating or even have sex? And would rather juat live a hermit? Hell most documentarys in regards to Japan and or Asian work culture usually supports the stereotype and I can think of no reason for them to lie, cherry pick, or exaggerate the topic either. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:964856427] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote> Americans literally work more hours on average: https://data.oecd.org/emp/hours-worked.htm Japan is about avergae for a developed country in terms of working hours.</quote>Despite the data I always found it hard to believe Japan can posses such a highly ranked and growing economy/gdp, quality of goods, cleanliness, attention to detail, maintenance and custermer service on the lv that it does. While somehow working less hour's then Americans do with more leave/time off. Yet despite the above they still somehow do not have time or energy enough to ever feel like dating or even have sex? And would rather juat live a hermit? Hell most documentarys in regards to Japan and or Asian work culture usually supports the stereotype and I can think of no reason for them to lie, cherry pick, or exaggerate the topic either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 05/07/22 11:46:34 AM #76:	Japan is a pretty doomed country tbh. Between the weird subcultures that exist men not having sex and insane attitudes towards work https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/05/03/business/four-day-working-week-japan/ I mean look at this shit. Expecting you to get a second job or further your current one with more education instead of relaxing on your days off. Apparently they even only started offering two days off in the fucking 80s. Lmao fuck off <cite>Axiom posted [p:964856983] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Japan is a pretty doomed country tbh. Between the weird subcultures that exist men not having sex and insane attitudes towards work https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/05/03/business/four-day-working-week-japan/ I mean look at this shit. Expecting you to get a second job or further your current one with more education instead of relaxing on your days off. Apparently they even only started offering two days off in the fucking 80s. Lmao fuck off </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 05/07/22 12:01:31 PM #78:	ssjevot posted... Americans literally work more hours on average: https://data.oecd.org/emp/hours-worked.htm Japan is about avergae for a developed country in terms of working hours. The suicide rate is also lower than America despite yet another stereotype. The birth rate is pretty comparable to other developed countries and the highest in East Asia (much higher than Korea and Taiwan, slightly higher than China). Japan has a positive immigration rate (more people entering than leaving, unlike say China which has a negative immigration rate). The main issue this last year is many immigrants cannot arrive. I had a bunch of people waiting to come to the laboratory I work at. The restrictions made it very hard for everyone. Things will get better this year with fewer restrictions. That said the population will continue to decrease because the immigration rate isn't enough to counteract the below replacement birth rate. The government continues gradually improving the immigration situation but they can't even come close to meeting their own quotas. If they actually want to meet the immigrant numbers they're setting it's going to require major incentives. Fair enough. Today I learned stuff. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:964857249] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>Americans literally work more hours on average: https://data.oecd.org/emp/hours-worked.htm Japan is about avergae for a developed country in terms of working hours. The suicide rate is also lower than America despite yet another stereotype. The birth rate is pretty comparable to other developed countries and the highest in East Asia (much higher than Korea and Taiwan, slightly higher than China). Japan has a positive immigration rate (more people entering than leaving, unlike say China which has a negative immigration rate). The main issue this last year is many immigrants cannot arrive. I had a bunch of people waiting to come to the laboratory I work at. The restrictions made it very hard for everyone. Things will get better this year with fewer restrictions. That said the population will continue to decrease because the immigration rate isn't enough to counteract the below replacement birth rate. The government continues gradually improving the immigration situation but they can't even come close to meeting their own quotas. If they actually want to meet the immigrant numbers they're setting it's going to require major incentives.</quote>Fair enough. Today I learned stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uta 05/07/22 12:10:06 PM #79:	MrDrMan posted... How does that happen? Capitalism, Covid, etc. Their declining birth rate is a direct result of hyper capitalist society l, no one has time to find partners, settle down, and have kids. This causes an aging population, hence the 28% old people, and combine that with a pandemic that mostly effects the elderly and you've got a lot of dead. --- Others don't get to dictate what's normal and what isn't. It's something we decide for ourselves. That's why it's the most important thing to us. <cite>Uta posted [p:964857392] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>MrDrMan posted... </cite> <quote>How does that happen?</quote>Capitalism, Covid, etc. Their declining birth rate is a direct result of hyper capitalist society l, no one has time to find partners, settle down, and have kids. This causes an aging population, hence the 28% old people, and combine that with a pandemic that mostly effects the elderly and you've got a lot of dead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 05/07/22 2:07:46 PM #80:	C_Pain posted... I feel like this obsession with population has to always go up is weird. The current ponzi scheme system of economics & social programs we use requires it to always go up. If it doesn't go up it results in a pretty significant crisis. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:964859532] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>C_Pain posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like this obsession with population has to always go up is weird.</quote> The current ponzi scheme system of economics & social programs we use requires it to always go up. If it doesn't go up it results in a pretty significant crisis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiritSephiroth 05/07/22 2:16:16 PM #81:	Axiom posted... I mean look at this shit. Expecting you to get a second job or further your current one with more education instead of relaxing on your days off. This is literally happening in London too. --- https://i.imgur.com/spfW7gv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAuZ5LW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZzXmr8X.jpg <cite>SpiritSephiroth posted [p:964859700] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Axiom posted... </cite> <quote>I mean look at this shit. Expecting you to get a second job or further your current one with more education instead of relaxing on your days off.</quote> This is literally happening in London too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 05/07/22 7:59:20 PM #82:	Prismsblade posted... Despite the data I always found it hard to believe Japan can posses such a highly ranked and growing economy/gdp, quality of goods, cleanliness, attention to detail, maintenance and custermer service on the lv that it does. While somehow working less hour's then Americans do with more leave/time off. Yet despite the above they still somehow do not have time or energy enough to ever feel like dating or even have sex? And would rather juat live a hermit? Hell most documentarys in regards to Japan and or Asian work culture usually supports the stereotype and I can think of no reason for them to lie, cherry pick, or exaggerate the topic either. Most first world countries do all of those things. America is a pretty bad example of a first world country in terms of everything you just mentioned. Japan looks like an average European country in most of these areas. The stereotypes people have of Japan would more appropriately be applied to Korea or Taiwan, but people aren't basing the things they repeat on actual data. This time and energy to have sex narrative isn't part of reality. Again they look like an average European country in birth rate. And your stereotype of Europeans is they just sit around doing nothing and living well off their social systems (when in reality their work hours and social systems are pretty similar to Japan). I covered this in my previous post, but no amount of saying otherwise will change the fact the low birth rates are a result of prosperity. The richer, more educated, more secure, etc. the less children you are likely to have. "Documentaries" are generally garbage meant to support a narrative and tell you a story the creators want you to believe or think you will find interesting. The data speaks for itself, and as someone who has been living in Japan for years believe me there are plenty of people here with incredibly laid back jobs where you aren't expected to do very much that you probably associate with France. You aren't going to get a documentary on the guy who sits in an office screwing around on the internet all day. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:964866683] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite> <quote>Despite the data I always found it hard to believe Japan can posses such a highly ranked and growing economy/gdp, quality of goods, cleanliness, attention to detail, maintenance and custermer service on the lv that it does. While somehow working less hour's then Americans do with more leave/time off. Yet despite the above they still somehow do not have time or energy enough to ever feel like dating or even have sex? And would rather juat live a hermit? Hell most documentarys in regards to Japan and or Asian work culture usually supports the stereotype and I can think of no reason for them to lie, cherry pick, or exaggerate the topic either.</quote> Most first world countries do all of those things. America is a pretty bad example of a first world country in terms of everything you just mentioned. Japan looks like an average European country in most of these areas. The stereotypes people have of Japan would more appropriately be applied to Korea or Taiwan, but people aren't basing the things they repeat on actual data. This time and energy to have sex narrative isn't part of reality. Again they look like an average European country in birth rate. And your stereotype of Europeans is they just sit around doing nothing and living well off their social systems (when in reality their work hours and social systems are pretty similar to Japan). I covered this in my previous post, but no amount of saying otherwise will change the fact the low birth rates are a result of prosperity. The richer, more educated, more secure, etc. the less children you are likely to have. "Documentaries" are generally garbage meant to support a narrative and tell you a story the creators want you to believe or think you will find interesting. The data speaks for itself, and as someone who has been living in Japan for years believe me there are plenty of people here with incredibly laid back jobs where you aren't expected to do very much that you probably associate with France. You aren't going to get a documentary on the guy who sits in an office screwing around on the internet all day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/07/22 8:00:53 PM #83:	Esrac posted... I wonder what they could realistically do to enable and encourage their young adults to pursue a traditional family structure and have more kids. No more government pensions. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:964866714] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>I wonder what they could realistically do to enable and encourage their young adults to pursue a traditional family structure and have more kids.</quote>No more government pensions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Number090684 05/07/22 8:02:56 PM #84:	NeonOctopus posted... I need to go over to Japan and solve their birthrate problem <cite>Number090684 posted [p:964866762] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>NeonOctopus posted... </cite> <quote>I need to go over to Japan and solve their birthrate problem</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Number090684 05/07/22 8:13:41 PM #85:	Japan's birthrate being low is only like this because of various societal pressures and norms.... One day off a week unless it's a very special week of holidays, long school / work days, having more than one job is recommended unless you work a very high paying job and / or are a successful business owner.... Seriously after all that who has free time to plan around the schedules of immediate family for time with them, let alone extended family, a potential significant other AND hobbies and relaxation / personal time? I love Japan but I could not see myself living there while not being wealthy. <cite>Number090684 posted [p:964866975] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>Japan's birthrate being low is only like this because of various societal pressures and norms.... One day off a week unless it's a very special week of holidays, long school / work days, having more than one job is recommended unless you work a very high paying job and / or are a successful business owner.... Seriously after all that who has free time to plan around the schedules of immediate family for time with them, let alone extended family, a potential significant other AND hobbies and relaxation / personal time? I love Japan but I could not see myself living there while not being wealthy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 05/07/22 8:16:30 PM #86:	certain bits of data can always be misleading if you don't have the full story, too. my brother went to japan for a few years to teach english and he told me that their summer break is a lot shorter than here so I kinda assumed it meant they just have more school than I do. but then he said there's so many little holidays, half-days, days off for other reasons, etc that the total school time probably ends up lower --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:964867031] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>certain bits of data can always be misleading if you don't have the full story, too. my brother went to japan for a few years to teach english and he told me that their summer break is a lot shorter than here so I kinda assumed it meant they just have more school than I do. but then he said there's so many little holidays, half-days, days off for other reasons, etc that the total school time probably ends up lower </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 05/07/22 8:59:50 PM #87:	kirbymuncher posted... certain bits of data can always be misleading if you don't have the full story, too. my brother went to japan for a few years to teach english and he told me that their summer break is a lot shorter than here so I kinda assumed it meant they just have more school than I do. but then he said there's so many little holidays, half-days, days off for other reasons, etc that the total school time probably ends up lower Yeah there are 16 national holidays. You get a legally mandated 10 paid days off a year, but many places give you more (I get 20). Most places also give you a week off for Obon. People are just in a circle jerk of telling themselves Japan has the worst work culture without bothering to actually do any basic research. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:964867919] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>kirbymuncher posted... </cite> <quote>certain bits of data can always be misleading if you don't have the full story, too. my brother went to japan for a few years to teach english and he told me that their summer break is a lot shorter than here so I kinda assumed it meant they just have more school than I do. but then he said there's so many little holidays, half-days, days off for other reasons, etc that the total school time probably ends up lower</quote> Yeah there are 16 national holidays. You get a legally mandated 10 paid days off a year, but many places give you more (I get 20). Most places also give you a week off for Obon. People are just in a circle jerk of telling themselves Japan has the worst work culture without bothering to actually do any basic research. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Michael_Booth 05/07/22 9:11:44 PM #88:	It's actually women's rights (and thus education) that's lowered the birth rate of developed countries: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/5/5/AASpaLAADNVf.jpg https://worldpopulationhistory.org/womens-status-and-fertility-rates/ It makes sense, as well -- a) Child Birth is one of the most dangerous things you can partake in (Only a few activities are more dangerous such as BASE Jumping which has a 42 death rate per 100,000 jumps), at 12 deaths per 100,000 live births it's more dangerous than sky dying, which has a mere fraction at 0.99 death rate per 100,000 jumps; and taking Heroin (only a small death rate of 2.5 per 100,000 people) -- and that's in wealthy countries where you can access all the latest and greatest medicine. b) With education, you can achieve more than potentially being a "stay-at-home" mom, which can be very limiting for potentially a lifetime, depending on your child (especially true in developed nations) -- and with right's you don't need to do it. c) Pain. d) Nine months, of potential unpleasantness. e) You can develop loads of things, without your death -- during pregnancy that can effect you for life (Gestational Diabetes, it should disappear after birth, but doesn't always), Osteoporosis (Yeah, disabling back pain and bones that break out of the blue, for a life-time). The amazing thing isn't that Child birth is declining, but that it occurs at all in developed nations. <cite>Michael_Booth posted [p:964868179] in Japan's po... [t:80011911]...</cite> <quote>It's actually women's rights (and thus education) that's lowered the birth rate of developed countries: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/5/5/AASpaLAADNVf.jpg https://worldpopulationhistory.org/womens-status-and-fertility-rates/ It makes sense, as well -- a) Child Birth is one of the most dangerous things you can partake in (Only a few activities are more dangerous such as BASE Jumping which has a 42 death rate per 100,000 jumps), at 12 deaths per 100,000 live births it's more dangerous than sky dying, which has a mere fraction at 0.99 death rate per 100,000 jumps; and taking Heroin (only a small death rate of 2.5 per 100,000 people) -- and that's in wealthy countries where you can access all the latest and greatest medicine. b) With education, you can achieve more than potentially being a "stay-at-home" mom, which can be very limiting for potentially a lifetime, depending on your child (especially true in developed nations) -- and with right's you don't need to do it. c) Pain. d) Nine months, of potential unpleasantness. e) You can develop loads of things, without your death -- during pregnancy that can effect you for life (Gestational Diabetes, it should disappear after birth, but doesn't always), Osteoporosis (Yeah, disabling back pain and bones that break out of the blue, for a life-time). The amazing thing isn't that Child birth is declining, but that it occurs at all in developed nations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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