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Evol
04/30/22 12:11:12 PM
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I never wouldve guessed years ago that it would come to deadly fights over Pokemon cards. What is going on?

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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 12:12:55 PM
#53:


Evol posted...
I never wouldve guessed years ago that it would come to deadly fights over Pokemon cards. What is going on?
I mean shit, it came down to brawls in stores even back in the 90s. They had to limit Pokemon boosters to 5 packs per person because there wasn't nearly enough supply to meet demand.

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CrimsonAngel
04/30/22 12:13:06 PM
#54:


Pokemon cards and pizza are worth more than a human life apparently

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Perksurx
04/30/22 12:13:25 PM
#55:


Evol posted...
I never wouldve guessed years ago that it would come to deadly fights over Pokemon cards. What is going on?

And a pizza. Don't forget the pizza.

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UnfairRepresent
04/30/22 12:13:45 PM
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Antifar posted...
I believe my deputies are justified in all their actions, Ths is the real world.

guess we see what Admiral has been up too

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Questionmarktarius
04/30/22 12:14:13 PM
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Evol posted...
What is going on?
Trading card games are functionally NFTs, except they're easier to steal.
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Prestoff
04/30/22 12:15:33 PM
#58:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Even just collecting casually as a kid I spent hundreds of dollars on MTG, YGO, and Pokemon cards growing up. It was just as expensive as buying video games in the long run.

Worst part about TCG's for me was I got addicted to opening packs and getting that ecstatic feeling pulling rare's. It's one of the reasons I think lootboxes/gacha's (arguably) tcg's need to have some form of label as gambling. But that is another can of worms all together.

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ScazarMeltex
04/30/22 12:17:12 PM
#59:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Trading card games are functionally NFTs, except they're easier to steal.
No, because with the trading card game you actually get the card and you can use it in the game.

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Evol
04/30/22 12:19:01 PM
#60:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I mean shit, it came down to brawls in stores even back in the 90s. They had to limit Pokemon boosters to 5 packs per person because there wasn't nearly enough supply to meet demand.

Ah, I dont remember that because I was a baby back then. But these past few years, it feels like its really escalated.

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Questionmarktarius
04/30/22 12:19:12 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
No, because with the trading card game you actually get the card and you can use it in the game.
All that does is make the theft worthwhile.

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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 12:20:04 PM
#62:


Prestoff posted...
Worst part about TCG's for me was I got addicted to opening packs and getting that ecstatic feeling pulling rare's. It's one of the reasons I think lootboxes/gacha's (arguably) tcg's need to have some form of label as gambling. But that is another can of worms all together.
The scummiest thing about the Pokemon booster pack model was that each pack was guaranteed to have at least one Star rarity...buuuut...

Not all rare cards were created equal. They randomly assigned Pidgeotto, a middle evolution, with Star rarity just so they could stuff it into packs without breaking any rules. "Look, you got a Star!" Yeah, but it should have been a diamond.

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Prestoff
04/30/22 12:20:22 PM
#63:


Evol posted...
Ah, I dont remember that because I was a baby back then. But these past few years, it feels like its really escalated.

Logan Paul really helped elevate the popularity when he started to do openins of them, soo much that you have adult men waiting in front of target an hour early just to rush in and buy all the pokemon cards.

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cjsdowg
04/30/22 12:21:51 PM
#64:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the masked thieves probably didn't obey lawful orders.

It's just speculation at the moment, but something tells me that the driver of the car did something illegal and dangerous that necessitated the situation.

Whether that's true or not, it's still extremely strange and hateful to classify all police officers as "armed thugs" given the actual stats on officer involved shootings.

The fact the police did not release more information about how the shooting happen should cause even you to pause. If they take all this time to go into detail about the stealing of a fucking 4 dollar pizza . Why would they not go into detail about that ?

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kingdrake2
04/30/22 12:21:57 PM
#65:


Prestoff posted...
I think lootboxes/gacha's (arguably) tcg's need to have some form of label as gambling.


i had to scale back on that. set myself a limit. sticking to it.

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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 12:23:32 PM
#66:


cjsdowg posted...
Why would they not go into detail about that ?
Because their investigation into the incident hasn't yet been completed? What do you want them to do, come out with a half-prepared press conference filled with answers like "we haven't finished our investigation so we don't have a conclusive answer at this time"

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
04/30/22 12:24:33 PM
#67:


This is a sad day, and this is NOT how pokemon brings joy to people.

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cjsdowg
04/30/22 12:27:03 PM
#68:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Because their investigation into the incident hasn't yet been completed? What do you want them to do, come out with a half-prepared press conference filled with answers like "we haven't finished our investigation so we don't have a conclusive answer at this time"

So they have all the time in the world to make the best story for them. But paint the victims in the worse light as soon as possible ?

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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 12:28:14 PM
#69:


cjsdowg posted...
But paint the victims in the worse light as soon as possible ?
The "victims" were the employees, customers, and owners of that Target store. The people in the car were perpetrators.

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ScazarMeltex
04/30/22 12:30:10 PM
#70:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
The "victims" were the employees, customers, and owners of that Target store. The people in the car were perpetrators.
Not of the violence they weren't. Again it was the police who escalated a situation of petty theft to that of armed violence.

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Number090684
04/30/22 12:32:21 PM
#71:


Getting dangerous to play/collect any sort of popular TCG these days because with all the money wrapped up in the secondary market of these games games they attract thieves and all sorts of deplorable criminals. Especially Pokemon and Magic. Pretty much why I stopped playing paper Magic because I don't want to make myself a target and hate having to deal with cheaters, thieves and have to second guess everyone around me.
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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 12:33:19 PM
#72:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Not of the violence they weren't. Again it was the police who escalated a situation of petty theft to that of armed violence.
But if we're talking about actual reality, it was the perps who escalated the situation by trying to flee and refusing lawful orders. Don't give me that shit lol

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Alteres
04/30/22 12:33:43 PM
#73:


Number090684 posted...
Getting dangerous to play/collect any sort of popular TCG these days because with all the money wrapped up in the secondary market of these games games they attract thieves. Especially Pokemon and Magic.
Guess you should go buy from Barnes and Noble then, they dont have that shit and always have cards.

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cjsdowg
04/30/22 12:35:05 PM
#74:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
he "victims" were the employees, customers, and owners of that Target store. The people in the car were perpetrators.

The only reason the employees are victims is a due to the millions of a dollars that Target steals from their workers via wage theft .

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CrimsonAngel
04/30/22 12:35:41 PM
#75:


lol stop entertaining Gob like he's a genuine person

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Number090684
04/30/22 12:35:45 PM
#76:


Alteres posted...
Guess you should go buy from Barnes and Noble then, they dont have that shit and always have cards.
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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 12:35:50 PM
#77:


cjsdowg posted...
The only reason the employees are victims is a due to the millions of a dollars that Target steals from their workers via wage theft .
Shut the fuck up = )

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Intro2Logic
04/30/22 12:36:24 PM
#78:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
, it was the perps who escalated the situation by trying to flee
Fleeing is not escalation! The only way fleeing results in people dying here is if police engage in a high speed chase.

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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 12:38:24 PM
#79:


Intro2Logic posted...
Fleeing is not escalation!
It is if you've been given a lawful order to stop. You are required by law to obey lawful orders. Things like "Stop," "Get out of the car," "Let me see your hands," "Get down on the ground," etc. are all lawful orders and the refusal to obey them is an escalation that equates to resisting arrest.

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cjsdowg
04/30/22 12:38:54 PM
#80:


So Gobby could not give a retort, but still had to some something.


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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 12:42:20 PM
#81:


cjsdowg posted...
So Gobby could not give a retort, but still had to some something.
There's no retort more suitable than the one I gave you when the post in question is nothing but utter nonsense.

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cjsdowg
04/30/22 12:53:15 PM
#82:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
There's no retort more suitable than the one I gave you when the post in question is nothing but utter nonsense.

What is nonsense ? You claimed that the employees were "victims". I pointed out that Target as history of wage theft. Which would make their employees victims more so then stealing pizzas. So how is that nonsense ?

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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 12:55:14 PM
#83:


cjsdowg posted...
I pointed out that Target as history of wage theft
You're going to have to explain exactly what you mean by this, and how it has even the slightest relevance to the discussion at hand.

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TheOtherMike
04/30/22 1:00:19 PM
#84:


CrimsonAngel posted...
lol stop entertaining Gob like he's a genuine person


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Intro2Logic
04/30/22 1:01:18 PM
#85:


https://minnesotareformer.com/briefs/target-faces-class-action-lawsuit-for-wage-theft/

Nobody gets shot over wage theft, nobody dies, because police don't get called over it
It gets handled via civil cases.

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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 1:03:40 PM
#86:


Intro2Logic posted...
https://minnesotareformer.com/briefs/target-faces-class-action-lawsuit-for-wage-theft/

Nobody gets shot over wage theft, nobody dies, because police don't get called over it
It gets handled via civil cases.
That's a fairly sleazy practice, but I don't really see how it has anything to do with this situation.

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Sad_Face
04/30/22 1:18:45 PM
#87:


Prestoff posted...
Worst part about TCG's for me was I got addicted to opening packs and getting that ecstatic feeling pulling rare's. It's one of the reasons I think lootboxes/gacha's (arguably) tcg's need to have some form of label as gambling. But that is another can of worms all together.

It has all the psychological elements of gambling. I don't understand why (I do know why, money) the government is taking so long to crackdown on gacha and lootboxes.

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greyfox747
04/30/22 1:54:53 PM
#88:


I dont think that the police should be shooting people over Pokmon cards and pizza.

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Intro2Logic
04/30/22 2:04:13 PM
#89:


Wait, I'm reading this article more closely, and the math is really cloudy here

Police "watched two men get out of the car wearing masks and hoodies and enter the store..." but shot four men? Two of the survivors were charged with theft, one was not identified.

It's unclear from the wording presented here whether the people they shot were even all involved in the crime.

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Ving_Rhames
04/30/22 2:15:16 PM
#90:


Basically they fucked up and need time to get their story straight lol

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Evol
04/30/22 3:24:24 PM
#91:


So the man killed was an innocent bystander, as well as one of the injured.

https://twitter.com/grownroom/status/1520155057311862784

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Alteres
04/30/22 3:26:49 PM
#92:


That reads like sloppy reporting, you dont charge the dead or those likely to die, as the other man seems to be in unresponsive condition

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Smackems
04/30/22 3:30:15 PM
#93:


Is that old woman really that old woman

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Axiom
04/30/22 3:33:23 PM
#94:


Criminals opening fire and killing people over pokemon cards. Wtf
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Questionmarktarius
04/30/22 3:34:16 PM
#95:


What we need to do, is collectively remember that civilian law enforcement are also civilians.

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Lorenzo_2003
04/30/22 3:35:26 PM
#96:


I thought this was going to be about a public meetup that went sideways.

But its a cop incident.

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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 3:36:56 PM
#97:


Evol posted...
So the man killed was an innocent bystander, as well as one of the injured.
I hope your source for this isn't that random anti-police Twitter poster, lol

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mybbqrules
04/30/22 3:37:24 PM
#98:


Psych_RN posted...
People need to stop blaming police and stop breaking the fucking law in the first place.

There are an awful lot of people nowadays that believe the police should just go ahead and let everyone go, regardless of whether or not they committed a crime. Why even have police, or laws? Just let everyone run around looting, stealing, raping and killing without consequence.
Literally no one in this topic is saying that.

What is being said is that petty theft shouldn't result in someone dying.

Now, I'm going to personally reserve judgement until some kind of video footage or a better description of the incident comes out.

As it stands, if they drove their car at the cops, justifiable deadly force.

If they didn't and they weren't armed, not justifiable deadly force.

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Gobstoppers12
04/30/22 3:43:35 PM
#99:


mybbqrules posted...
What is being said is that petty theft shouldn't result in someone dying.
You're right. Criminals should obey lawful orders and accept that they've been caught. They would drastically reduce injuries and death during police encounters by doing so.

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Poorly
04/30/22 3:48:25 PM
#100:


100 it is gentlemen

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SamsungGearS2
04/30/22 3:57:03 PM
#101:


If you cant do the time, dont do the crime.

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