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DanHaren2022 04/25/22 7:55:21 PM #1:	Guy was a piece of shit human being. Raped his teenage slaves and enslaved their children that they had together. Separated slave families. Thought blacks were an inferior race and wanted all Indians and blacks deported. Thought they could not live together with whites. Actively committed treason when he was VP under Adam's. Started and popularized mudslinging and dirty politics. Supported violence in France. The list goes on and on with shitty things he's done. He wrote the declaration of independence but tbh there were so many good writers back then, Hamilton or adams could have done an equally good job if not better. <cite>DanHaren2022 posted [p:964567875] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Guy was a piece of shit human being. Raped his teenage slaves and enslaved their children that they had together. Separated slave families. Thought blacks were an inferior race and wanted all Indians and blacks deported. Thought they could not live together with whites. Actively committed treason when he was VP under Adam's. Started and popularized mudslinging and dirty politics. Supported violence in France. The list goes on and on with shitty things he's done. He wrote the declaration of independence but tbh there were so many good writers back then, Hamilton or adams could have done an equally good job if not better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 04/25/22 7:56:05 PM #2:	Is Lincoln the GOAT by default? --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:964567901] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Is Lincoln the GOAT by default? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RenescoStCewl 04/25/22 7:59:12 PM #3:	The only people romanticizing him are Republicans who idolize the founding fathers for some reason. --- He/him <cite>RenescoStCewl posted [p:964567977] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>The only people romanticizing him are Republicans who idolize the founding fathers for some reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GawainNerevar 04/25/22 7:59:44 PM #4:	RenescoStCewl posted... The only people romanticizing him are Republicans who idolize the founding fathers for some reason. I'm quite positive you could find plenty of Hamilton-loving centrist liberals who do as well --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>GawainNerevar posted [p:964567996] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>RenescoStCewl posted... </cite> <quote>The only people romanticizing him are Republicans who idolize the founding fathers for some reason.</quote>I'm quite positive you could find plenty of Hamilton-loving centrist liberals who do as well </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 04/25/22 8:00:49 PM #5:	RenescoStCewl posted... The only people romanticizing him are Republicans who idolize the founding fathers for some reason. For some reason? Can't think of anything? They're on coins for the love of all that's holy --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:964568031] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>RenescoStCewl posted... </cite> <quote>The only people romanticizing him are Republicans who idolize the founding fathers for some reason.</quote> For some reason? Can't think of anything? They're on coins for the love of all that's holy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 04/25/22 8:00:56 PM #6:	I demand he be removed from the $2 bill --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:964568035] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>I demand he be removed from the $2 bill </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlemayor333 04/25/22 8:01:36 PM #7:	The founding fathers wouldn't even know how to use a microwave --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg <cite>Turtlemayor333 posted [p:964568056] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>The founding fathers wouldn't even know how to use a microwave </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/25/22 8:03:50 PM #9:	Most if not all the founding fathers would be considered villains in the 21st century. They all had morals that are not in match with modern standards <cite>Zikten posted [p:964568112] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Most if not all the founding fathers would be considered villains in the 21st century. They all had morals that are not in match with modern standards</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 04/25/22 8:25:21 PM #10:	If he's so smart, how come he's dead? --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:964568702] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>If he's so smart, how come he's dead? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 04/25/22 8:34:54 PM #11:	Different era and time. I'm pretty sure most here would not think like they do now if they lived then. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:964568930] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Different era and time. I'm pretty sure most here would not think like they do now if they lived then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHaren2022 04/26/22 5:59:21 AM #12:	-Hit on married women....who were married to his friends of all people <cite>DanHaren2022 posted [p:964577394] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>-Hit on married women....who were married to his friends of all people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 04/26/22 6:09:23 AM #13:	BignutzisBack posted... Is Lincoln the GOAT by default? Teddy Roosevelt --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:964577463] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>BignutzisBack posted... </cite> <quote>Is Lincoln the GOAT by default?</quote> Teddy Roosevelt </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/26/22 6:11:56 AM #14:	You're not wrong but very little of that wasn't the norm at the time People who praise Jefferson praise his accomplishments I mean Lincoln was a white supremacist also Even Thaddeus Stevens was a jerk and he was the best of the bunch on social Justice --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:964577490] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>You're not wrong but very little of that wasn't the norm at the time People who praise Jefferson praise his accomplishments I mean Lincoln was a white supremacist also Even Thaddeus Stevens was a jerk and he was the best of the bunch on social Justice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 04/26/22 6:13:47 AM #15:	Let's be honest most of the presidents weren't good people. You can count on one hand the ones that weren't racist or warmongers or corrupt or a combination of the three. Lincoln. Teddy Roosevelt. Jimmy Carter is a great human being but was a mediocre president. That's about it. Jefferson did his part defending democracy and expanding the union. Leave it at that. --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:964577505] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Let's be honest most of the presidents weren't good people. You can count on one hand the ones that weren't racist or warmongers or corrupt or a combination of the three. Lincoln. Teddy Roosevelt. Jimmy Carter is a great human being but was a mediocre president. That's about it. Jefferson did his part defending democracy and expanding the union. Leave it at that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayerblade11 04/26/22 6:16:08 AM #16:	In the past people mostly romanticized other people for their accomplishments, not their morals. <cite>Slayerblade11 posted [p:964577525] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote> In the past people mostly romanticized other people for their accomplishments, not their morals. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 04/26/22 6:17:23 AM #17:	Turtlemayor333 posted... The founding fathers wouldn't even know how to use a microwave Thomas Jefferson didn't even know how to prepare a Hot Pocket, the fucking loser. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:964577535] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Turtlemayor333 posted... </cite> <quote>The founding fathers wouldn't even know how to use a microwave</quote>Thomas Jefferson didn't even know how to prepare a Hot Pocket, the fucking loser. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
doomcrusader 04/26/22 6:19:06 AM #18:	You'll probably be seen as a bad guy in 300 years. Jefferson looks pretty good compared to the people 300 years before him. Meanwhile, the man was a genius who's enlightenment ideas are still important today. --- http://i.imgur.com/tqMGw.png http://i.imgur.com/IHbuM.jpg <cite>doomcrusader posted [p:964577552] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>You'll probably be seen as a bad guy in 300 years. Jefferson looks pretty good compared to the people 300 years before him. Meanwhile, the man was a genius who's enlightenment ideas are still important today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssk9716757 04/26/22 6:25:43 AM #19:	PrettyBoyFloyd posted... Different era and time. I'm pretty sure most here would not think like they do now if they lived then. Jefferson felt at the time that slavery was immoral and incompatible with his idea of all men are created equal but owned slaves anyway. In fact there are marginalized groups right now telling you that certain things society does are hurting them (e.g. being transphobic) just like black people were voicing their suffering under slavery at the time. Anyone who recognizes that but doesnt listen is a piece of shit tbh --- I am the nucleus. <cite>ssk9716757 posted [p:964577601] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote> PrettyBoyFloyd posted... </cite> <quote>Different era and time. I'm pretty sure most here would not think like they do now if they lived then.</quote> Jefferson felt at the time that slavery was immoral and incompatible with his idea of all men are created equal but owned slaves anyway. In fact there are marginalized groups right now telling you that certain things society does are hurting them (e.g. being transphobic) just like black people were voicing their suffering under slavery at the time. Anyone who recognizes that but doesnt listen is a piece of shit tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 04/26/22 6:32:19 AM #20:	there's plenty of shit everybody does today that will be looked upon with just as much disgust as slavery/racism is today. mostly climate related and job/corporate related shit. Ever been anti-union, you are a bad person. Ever argued against green energy or in favour of things that kill the environment faster, you are a bad person. There's lots more, i.e. second amendment, being against education/healthcare paid for by taxes, UBI etc. Everyone is a product of their generation and yes slave owning and racism was shit but society today is just as shit as it was yesterday <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:964577652] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>there's plenty of shit everybody does today that will be looked upon with just as much disgust as slavery/racism is today. mostly climate related and job/corporate related shit. Ever been anti-union, you are a bad person. Ever argued against green energy or in favour of things that kill the environment faster, you are a bad person. There's lots more, i.e. second amendment, being against education/healthcare paid for by taxes, UBI etc. Everyone is a product of their generation and yes slave owning and racism was shit but society today is just as shit as it was yesterday </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHaren2022 04/27/22 7:26:24 PM #21:	No alot of this stuff was not acceptable even at that time. <cite>DanHaren2022 posted [p:964621742] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>No alot of this stuff was not acceptable even at that time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 04/27/22 7:30:04 PM #22:	Can you think of any influential person that is good? --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:964621804] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Can you think of any influential person that is good? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Perascamin 04/27/22 7:33:40 PM #23:	TheHoldSteady posted... Teddy Roosevelt What about the roughest riders? --- I've grown. <cite>Perascamin posted [p:964621889] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>TheHoldSteady posted... </cite> <quote>Teddy Roosevelt</quote>What about the roughest riders? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/28/22 4:12:12 AM #24:	armandro posted... Can you think of any influential person that is good? Fred Rogers --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:964629801] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>armandro posted... </cite> <quote>Can you think of any influential person that is good?</quote>Fred Rogers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/28/22 4:25:20 AM #25:	The founding fathers in general were shitbags for not abolishing slavery from the start. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:964629879] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>The founding fathers in general were shitbags for not abolishing slavery from the start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHaren2022 04/28/22 10:31:04 AM #26:	Umbreon posted... The founding fathers in general were shitbags for not abolishing slavery from the start. Then the revolution would've never happened. <cite>DanHaren2022 posted [p:964633834] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>The founding fathers in general were shitbags for not abolishing slavery from the start.</quote> Then the revolution would've never happened. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/28/22 10:35:42 AM #27:	Umbreon posted... The founding fathers in general were shitbags for not abolishing slavery from the start. John Adams: constantly complained about tyranny, became a tyrant. Thomas Jefferson: champion of liberty, raped his slaves. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:964633922] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>The founding fathers in general were shitbags for not abolishing slavery from the start.</quote>John Adams: constantly complained about tyranny, became a tyrant. Thomas Jefferson: champion of liberty, raped his slaves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 04/28/22 10:42:44 AM #28:	PrettyBoyFloyd posted... Different era and time. Same country, same class structure. The differences are basically skin deep, and the USA has never gone through the revolutionary changes needed to truly separate itself from Thomas Jefferson and his ilk. It's still their house. --- I am quite the town freak, which satisfies. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:964634050] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>PrettyBoyFloyd posted... </cite> <quote>Different era and time.</quote>Same country, same class structure. The differences are basically skin deep, and the USA has never gone through the revolutionary changes needed to truly separate itself from Thomas Jefferson and his ilk. It's still their house. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHaren2022 04/28/22 10:44:06 AM #29:	Adams was not a tyrant. He wanted monarchical powers but congress didn't really allow him to. He was just a weird personality. He never owned slaves but didn't really push hard against it. <cite>DanHaren2022 posted [p:964634069] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Adams was not a tyrant. He wanted monarchical powers but congress didn't really allow him to. He was just a weird personality. He never owned slaves but didn't really push hard against it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/28/22 10:44:16 AM #30:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... Same country, same class structure. The differences are basically skin deep, and the USA has never gone through the revolutionary changes needed to truly separate itself from Thomas Jefferson and his ilk. It's still their house. Indeed if you look at reconstruction (the darkest period of US history IMO) America went out of its way not to change and prop up the wealthy "1%" Keep women and non whites down keep the plebs in line reinforce religion Violate the rights awarded by the constitution --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:964634072] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted... </cite> <quote>Same country, same class structure. The differences are basically skin deep, and the USA has never gone through the revolutionary changes needed to truly separate itself from Thomas Jefferson and his ilk. It's still their house.</quote>Indeed if you look at reconstruction (the darkest period of US history IMO) America went out of its way not to change and prop up the wealthy "1%" Keep women and non whites down keep the plebs in line reinforce religion Violate the rights awarded by the constitution </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/28/22 10:46:15 AM #31:	Franklin was still the best. Dude would fuck anything that would stop moving long enough, and never apologized or tried to hide it. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:964634118] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Franklin was still the best. Dude would fuck anything that would stop moving long enough, and never apologized or tried to hide it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHaren2022 04/28/22 11:07:12 AM #32:	Honestly Hamilton and Washington were the 2 best. <cite>DanHaren2022 posted [p:964634498] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Honestly Hamilton and Washington were the 2 best. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/28/22 11:12:26 AM #33:	DanHaren2022 posted... Honestly Hamilton and Washington were the 2 best. Ah yes famous real president of the United States Alexander Hamilton --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:964634592] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>DanHaren2022 posted... </cite> <quote>Honestly Hamilton and Washington were the 2 best.</quote>Ah yes famous real president of the United States Alexander Hamilton </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/28/22 11:17:08 AM #34:	ssk9716757 posted... Jefferson felt at the time that slavery was immoral and incompatible with his idea of all men are created equal but owned slaves anyway. he stopped writing about the immorality of slavery around the same time he did some calculations determining how much money he and his family would make by owning slaves. how curious! --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html <cite>averagejoel posted [p:964634697] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>ssk9716757 posted... </cite> <quote>Jefferson felt at the time that slavery was immoral and incompatible with his idea of all men are created equal but owned slaves anyway.</quote>he stopped writing about the immorality of slavery around the same time he did some calculations determining how much money he and his family would make by owning slaves. how curious! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 04/28/22 11:19:02 AM #35:	DanHaren2022 posted... Honestly Hamilton and Washington were the 2 best. Washington owned slaves so we're not allowed to glorify him either --- Playing: Yakuza 6 I hope something good happens to you today <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:964634731] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>DanHaren2022 posted... </cite> <quote>Honestly Hamilton and Washington were the 2 best.</quote> Washington owned slaves so we're not allowed to glorify him either </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 04/28/22 11:19:47 AM #36:	UnfairRepresent posted... Fred Rogers Fuck him and his family. --- You know what's fun? Telling people to send you money for something that you won't do. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:964634742] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Fred Rogers</quote> Fuck him and his family. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Choco 04/28/22 11:28:19 AM #37:	he didn't seem that bad in his epic rap battle of history --- https://i.imgur.com/286sD4e.png http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html <cite>Choco posted [p:964634915] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>he didn't seem that bad in his epic rap battle of history </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 04/28/22 11:29:10 AM #38:	armandro posted... Can you think of any influential person that is good? Never heard anything bad about Andy Griffith --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:964634936] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>armandro posted... </cite> <quote>Can you think of any influential person that is good?</quote> Never heard anything bad about Andy Griffith </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Korey 04/28/22 11:30:13 AM #39:	TheHoldSteady posted... Teddy Roosevelt Damn. Fuckin. Right. --- https://i.imgur.com/PpxZDof.png \| https://i.imgur.com/xMGLcGE.png https://i.imgur.com/nsBw6Sy.png \| https://imgtc.com/i/sBYBaew.png <cite>The_Korey posted [p:964634955] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>TheHoldSteady posted... </cite> <quote>Teddy Roosevelt</quote> Damn. Fuckin. Right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/28/22 11:30:39 AM #40:	Solid Sonic posted... Fuck him and his family. why tho? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:964634960] in Its crazy ... [t:79998926]...</cite> <quote>Solid Sonic posted... </cite> <quote>Fuck him and his family.</quote>why tho? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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