Current Events > Florida Senate passes bill stripping Disney's special self-governing status

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/florida-senate-passes-bill-strip-disney-special-self-governing-status-rcna25219

Still has to pass the House

Florida is a shit hole them and Texas can fuck off

Sigh. Wtf. How much would this actually affect Disney and their workers?

Would love Disney to just say fuck it we are leaving Florida

Why would disney even have that?

Ar0ge posted...

Sigh. Wtf. How much would this actually affect Disney and their workers?

we'll find out in time.

It really can't be overstated just how grossly unqualified the Republican Party is for governing at any level whatsoever.

Party of small government loves big government moves and meddling

Questionmarktarius posted...

Why would disney even have that?

It removes the onus of maintenance, upkeep, environmental impact, that sort of thing out of the government's hands and into Disney's.

So Disney maintained the roads in Disney territory.

From what I understand, anyway.

Ar0ge posted...

Sigh. Wtf. How much would this actually affect Disney and their workers?

There's another topic on the board with more discussion, but the tl;dr is:
-Disney would no longer get to manage their own government services (fire, police, roads, etc). That power will return to the state.
-They will also now be required to pay certain taxes they didn't have to pay and conform with regulations they weren't complying with.
-The state would take ownership of the roughly $2 billion in debt that the disney "town" holds

In practice, very little will actually change, and it might not go through anyway because apparently the town needs to be given a vote on the measure and the town is like 100% disney employees.

The Enchanted Kingdom has been annexed

Ar0ge posted...

Sigh. Wtf. How much would this actually affect Disney and their workers?

This could arguably benefit Disney, as they're essentially the entire service infrastructure for several nearby towns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reedy_Creek_Improvement_District

Oh, and this:
s0nicfan posted...

-The state would take ownership of the roughly $2 billion in debt that the disney "town" holds

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Regardless of whether the bill has any real effect, this is the real message being sent.

And from the "ZoMG cANceL cULtuRe!!11!!1!!!1!" party no less

HylianFox posted...

The Enchanted Kingdom has been annexed

"They have taken the bridge and the Second Hall. We have barred the gates but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes... drums, drums in the deep."

https://youtu.be/Y8eL_DB-xBo

Questionmarktarius posted...

This could arguably benefit Disney, as they're essentially the entire service infrastructure for several nearby towns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reedy_Creek_Improvement_District

It certainly raises questions as to how far ahead the powers that be in the FL legislature thought.

Spite doesn't do much heavy lifting in the long haul.

s0nicfan posted...

-Disney would no longer get to manage their own government services (fire, police, roads, etc). That power will return to the state.

And I'm sure the Republicans won't fuck with that situation at all.

Don't Disney workers already get treated like shit?

hope it doesn't get worse

WhO wiLL PaVE thE roaDs IF DiSney DOeSnT

ThePieReborn posted...

It certainly raises questions as to how far ahead the powers that be in the FL legislature thought.

Taking on $2 billion in debt to own the libs.

pegusus123456 posted...

And I'm sure the Republicans won't fuck with that situation at all.

Even if they don't, the practical implications are that if Disney World gets a pothole they can no longer just send a crew out and fix it themselves. The township will have to send a crew, with all the expediency that every other town in florida gets potholes filled. It also means that a whole bunch of disney buildings would suddenly no longer be "up to code" since they would have previously drafted their own special codes that fit all their plans.

Companies should not be allowed to have that type of power in the first place. But this is the wrong reason to do this though.

Disney got cocky and made it political
they shook a bees nest they were better off avoiding as an industry
not a fan of Florida or Desantis, but Disney clearly did not think this shit through

and for the record: Disney ain't a champion of the left lol
they play both fields cause thats where the mf money is
their favorite color is green

All this because they said they support gay people. That's it. Because a giant heartless corporation that has funded the GOP in the past didn't publically support their stupid anti-gay agenda.

Not sure this is the right call, but let's not pretend that if this were a Democrat controlled legislature that folks wouldn't be cheering it on

NonDairyMiltank posted...

Disney got cocky and made it political
they shook a bees nest they were better off avoiding
not a fan of Florida or Desantis, but Disney clearly did not think this shit through

Crony Capitalism is never a stable arrangement.

NonDairyMiltank posted...

Disney got cocky and made it political
they shook a bees nest they were better off avoiding
not a fan of Florida or Desantis, but Disney clearly did not think this shit through

Keep in mind that originally Disney didn't say anything at all. There was a social media buzz to put pressure on them explicitly for not saying anything, and then there was follow up criticism for waiting until the bill had passed before making a statement. Disney wanted nothing to do with any of this but made the call that pissing off twitter was more dangerous than pissing off the state.

NonDairyMiltank posted...

Disney got cocky and made it political
they shook a bees nest they were better off avoiding
not a fan of Florida or Desantis, but Disney clearly did not think this shit through

Disney has always been political. All businesses are political. Businesses give money to political parties. Disney donates billions of dollars to GOP politicians. They already are political.

So in their grand retaliation for Disney not endorsing their blatantly homophobic legislation, Florida is taking Disney's debt and raising taxes on Orlando residents?

Bravo. What a masterstroke. You people aren't stupid hateful fuck-ups at all.

NonDairyMiltank posted...

Disney got cocky and made it political

Disney stopped donating money to politicians doing things they didn't agree with. Shut the fuck up.

Magyar15 posted...

Not sure this is the right call, but let's not pretend that if this were a Democrat controlled legislature that folks wouldn't be cheering it on

You can also shut the fuck up with your both sides bullshit.

Would the government really need to take on $2bil of Disney's debt? Lol talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face

s0nicfan posted...

Keep in mind that originally Disney didn't say anything at all. There was a social media buzz to put pressure on them explicitly for not saying anything, and then there was follow up criticism for waiting until the bill had passed before making a statement. Disney wanted nothing to do with any of this but made the call that pissing off twitter was more dangerous than pissing off the state.

No they were supporting them by donating to Florida GOP members. Disney was on their side. Disney's speaking out is performative. If DeSantis did noting in a year from now Disney would go back to donating to people like him. Disney is on their side.

He made the mistake by making Disney the enemy.

creativerealms posted...

Companies should not be allowed to have that type of power in the first place. But this is the wrong reason to do this though.

Doing the right thing for the wrong reason is still doing the right thing.
This should be a lesson in why TIF, special tax districts, and similar are terrible ideas, but it's all lost in "teh gays!" noise.

Magyar15 posted...

Not sure this is the right call, but let's not pretend that if this were a Democrat controlled legislature that folks wouldn't be cheering it on

The Democrats would never do it for such a petty reason, though. They'd probably just sit idly by and change nothing. Only the Republicans get vindictive when someone commits the sin of "not publically supporting bigotry"

How the hell did Disney, a private corporation, get special self governing status to begin with? Its probably the same moronic Republicans who had passed it

Smashingpmkns posted...

Would the government really need to take on $2bil of Disney's debt? Lol talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face

To be technical, the town still holds that debt. It's just that administration of paying it off would fall on Orange County and not Disney. Orange County could choose to pay it off by, say, raising property taxes in Disney. The debt itself doesn't change hands and Disney should probably never have fallen $2 billion in municipal debt in the first place, but since it exists it still has to be dealt with.

this is literally going to cost florida taxpayers more but conservatives are too dumb to realize it

David1988 posted...

How the hell did Disney, a private corporation, get special self governing status to begin with? Its probably the same moronic Republicans who had passed it

The same sort of "public-funds bribery" that still goes on every day in the form of TIF and the like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_increment_financing

DarthAragorn posted...

this is literally going to cost florida taxpayers more but conservatives are too dumb to realize it

Are they too dumb? Or it's just a battle they're willing to fight.

Like how we're paying higher gas prices to help Ukraine.

sometimes you gotta sanction a fool.

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I'm sure that played a factor, too, but I doubt they would have responded to a staff walkout if it wasn't already getting national attention.

armandro posted...

Are they too dumb? Or it's just a battle they're willing to fight.

Like how we're paying higher gas prices to help Ukraine.

sometimes you gotta sanction a fool.

They're either too dumb to realize it, or so dumb that they think shitting on gay people is worth paying higher taxes

Either way, they're fucking dumb.

David1988 posted...

How the hell did Disney, a private corporation, get special self governing status to begin with? Its probably the same moronic Republicans who had passed it

Disney world is essentially a small town in and of itself

the Disney world complex is 40 square miles of hotels, theme parks, and other facilities

my understanding is functionally it just let Disney handle all the infrastructure needs that a town of that size would need without having to go through some other municipal governing body

armandro posted...

Are they too dumb? Or it's just a battle they're willing to fight.

Like how we're paying higher gas prices to help Ukraine.

sometimes you gotta sanction a fool.

Jesus, the mask is off and burned.

This just in, guys, Armando wants to compare the dumbshit Florida GOP to Ukraine.

TheGoldenEel posted...

Disney world is essentially a small town in and of itself

the Disney world complex is 40 square miles of hotels, theme parks, and other facilities

my understanding is functionally it just let Disney handle all the infrastructure needs that a town of that size would need without having to go through some other municipal governing body

It also lets them do things like set their own zoning rules and building standards. So if they design some new wacky castle, or want to take a big chunk of land not yet zoned for commercial business, they can rubber stamp approve their own design rather than having to get the design approved by an external regulatory body.

@Magyar15 posted...

Not sure this is the right call, but let's not pretend that if this were a Democrat controlled legislature that folks wouldn't be cheering it on

unless democrats have done this before (which to my knowledge they havent) well never know how people would be reacting.

So instead your post is what we would call a fallacy.

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This. Kinda just watching this with popcorn at this point

DrizztLink posted...

Jesus, the mask is off and burned.

This just in, guys, Armando wants to compare the dumbshit Florida GOP to Ukraine.

I'm just talking about motives.

obviously one is way bigger than the other

I just meant in terms of hurting yourself for what they consider their cause.

and thinking the GOP is stupid is one of the reasons Trump won.

They obviously know what they are doing, their fanbase are the dumb ones.